Countdown to a Showdown

[Highsky]

Countdown to a Showdown

The next few weeks of diplomacy on Iran’s nukes may be too fast and too furious. What we really need to avoid Armageddon.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10991253/site/newsweek/

[Warrior]

There won't be a war nor armageddon.....at least not now.

[G-Capo]

Nice read.Thanks for posting.

[Highsky]

Countdown to a Showdown: Part II 07Feb2006
Jan. 25, 2006 - Congressman Robert Andrews, a Democrat from New Jersey, and Mark Steven Kirk, a Republican from Illinois, made a proposal on the floor of the House last June that, as far as I can tell, sank without a trace. We’ve heard nothing about it from the administration since, and when I’ve raised it with several experts on Iran they say it’s potentially counterproductive, possibly very dangerous. But with tensions between the mullahs and the rest of the world continuing to grow because of Iran’s nuclear research, maybe it’s time to take another look at what these congressmen described as a “surgical sanction.”
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11021326/site/newsweek/

[Akbar]

My thoughts(facts)...

1: America will never attack a country with patriotic people, because even if they manage to take out our military they can't control our nation (this was confirmed by some ex cia chief)
2: Our defence minister once said "we have created cells within our enemies boarders" which is one of our deadliest weapons (this is america's weakest area) and pentagon knows it.
3: World oil supply would be limited.

[attitude]

In 30 or 40 years time the truth will come out just like its coming out about Pearl Harbour. The Americans knew days before The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour that it was coming. September 11 was the day Bush attacked his own country. Bin Laden was trained by the C.I.A in the 80's to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan and they financed him and helped him recruit across the world. He is a face for the attack nothing more. America needed to justify increased military spending and with no more Warsaw Pact and China only a threat if it invades Taiwan, America had no more enemy and no reason to keep its enormous military. By having Terrorists as their new enemy, America can keep spending and impose their genocidal society over the world. America is a dangerous place to visit. Everyone has a gun (its in their constitution that every one has a right to bear arms). You can't safely go out at night. And their are a great deal of poor who make up over half the army. These soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan dont want to be there. They come from poor families who have only the military as a way to get work and put food on the table. No rich in America's military. How many congressmen have lost their sons in Iraq. None at all.
Does anyone really believe a plane hit the pentagon. How does a Jumbo Jet make only a 16 foot hole.
Fair enough we have all seen the footage of planes hitting the W.T.C but if they were cross country flights fully ladden with fuel. Burning petrol would have spewed out of the building and onto the streets below. In america the goverment has banned news agencies from showing the footage. They are hiding the truth that they want to wage war. Bush is a mason. So was his father.
Iran should license produce the Su-30mkk and the Mig-31 and upgrade their current force of fighters and helo's
And why shouldn't Iran have a nuke if they want it.
Pakistan, India, Ukraine, Russia and Israel all have nukes and they are Iran's neighbours. Iran should build some nukes to show their nuclear armed neighbours that Iran is prepared to defend itself from Nuclear attack. And what Hipocrits america are. As they have nukes and alot of them at that, what gives them the right to say who can have them and who cant.
I feel very strongly that America is the cause of all evil in this world.
I am a 30 year old Australian caucasian who is a christian. My best friends are from Pakistan Turkey Lebanon Palestine. We recently had riots in our beachside suburb of Cronulla. It was all inflammed by the media. The government here is trying to install hatred against Muslims and i hate it. Australians judge people on their character as a person, not on religion or race. Australian Pri-Minister John Howard kisses George Bush's arse when ever he can

[Snauhi]

My thoughts(facts)...

1: America will never attack a country with patriotic people, because even if they manage to take out our military they can't control our nation (this was confirmed by some ex cia chief)
2: Our defence minister once said "we have created cells within our enemies boarders" which is one of our deadliest weapons (this is america's weakest area) and pentagon knows it.
3: World oil supply would be limited.

Iraqi information minister said that they will defeat USA at the gates of Baghdad.. US DONT NEED TO LAUCH AN GROUND ASSAULTH...

[MSS'S]

But niether does Iran My Boy.

[Akbar]

Snauhi: read my post again

There is a difference between winning a war against a nation and taking out military targets, will america be welcomed in Iraq when they are strong or will they "once again" be a threat to america? Is this a permanent victory or a temporary disarmament?

[Pure_sunni]

I cant see how the bush administration can allow that the mullahs got Iran

[Mahati]

There are many conspiracy theories about America and Bush being a Mason, and Bush allowing 9/11. I like to deal in facts. 19 hyjackers were Muslim. Bin Laden declared that he organized 9/11 and why.

You guys always throw up the fact that we trained and backed Osama, but you never say why we did so. You forget that during the Cold War era there were 2 superpowers not 1. The Soviet Union was trying to make inroads into the Middle East through Afghanistan. Anybody who was fighting the Soviet Union were our friends.

Today you do not hear Bush or America talking about wiping out a Nation and taking someones lands. The U.S. has never conquered a Nation and taken their land, not talking about the North American continent. The Iranian President is talking about comitting genocide, wiping a nation off the planet, and pushing a race into the sea and taking over that land. The fundamentalists Muslims want to create a world wide caliphate and subjugate the entire world to live under Taliban law.

Sorry, but that is never ever going to happen.

[attitude]

mate seriously you live in America and all you hear is what the American Media tells you. The fact is that America is the No. 1 proliferator of conflict around the world. They can't stop sticking their nose in everywhere. They are the no.1 exporter of arms around the world. They preach that they want peace between the palestinians and Israeli's and say they need to stop attacking and retaliating against each other and at the same time they are supplying over 100 new F-16 to the israeli's and 20 new apache helicopters and stopping Russia from delivering 50 used BRDM apc's to the Palestinian army. Its the current government the Bush administration. Clinton wouldn't have invaded Iraq and neither would have Al Gore if he was elected. In Australia we have news reports about how the American media doesnt report everything to the American people. There was a protest in New York against the Iraq invasion a few years ago and only 100,000 people were there and they said this showed there was overwelmingly support for the war due to low numbers turning out. What they didn't report was that all the trains didnt stop at those stations so everyone had to walk for about 2 miles to the protest and when 100,000 people were their they erected barriers and turned everyone else away. What happened to the America of the past that stayed out of everything and only stuck its nose in when it was attacked. The world should form a new coalition and not bow down to America. They are not the worlds police force. And they attacked themselves on 9,11 Bin Laden is C.I.A trained. Its undeniable. No plane hit the Pentagon. Its Undeniable. Iran should buy weapons from Russia straight away. Immediate order for 100 Su-30mkk and S-300 and Tor - M1 . This is urgent and should be done immediately. The first wave of a U.S attack on Iran would be with cruise missles and ucav,s for the first few days until defences are subdued. Big buys of Su-30 with beyond visual range missle's and Sam's gallory. Buy them non stop and produce their own. Iran has a great airforce and lots of potential and with big buys and licence production. They can really punish the U.S.A.F and U.S.N when their planes and drones come.

[MSS'S]

In 30 or 40 years time the truth will come out just like its coming out about Pearl Harbour. The Americans knew days before The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour that it was coming. September 11 was the day Bush attacked his own country. Bin Laden was trained by the C.I.A in the 80's to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan and they financed him and helped him recruit across the world. He is a face for the attack nothing more. America needed to justify increased military spending and with no more Warsaw Pact and China only a threat if it invades Taiwan, America had no more enemy and no reason to keep its enormous military. By having Terrorists as their new enemy, America can keep spending and impose their genocidal society over the world. America is a dangerous place to visit. Everyone has a gun (its in their constitution that every one has a right to bear arms). You can't safely go out at night. And their are a great deal of poor who make up over half the army. These soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan dont want to be there. They come from poor families who have only the military as a way to get work and put food on the table. No rich in America's military. How many congressmen have lost their sons in Iraq. None at all.
Does anyone really believe a plane hit the pentagon. How does a Jumbo Jet make only a 16 foot hole.
Fair enough we have all seen the footage of planes hitting the W.T.C but if they were cross country flights fully ladden with fuel. Burning petrol would have spewed out of the building and onto the streets below. In america the goverment has banned news agencies from showing the footage. They are hiding the truth that they want to wage war. Bush is a mason. So was his father.
Iran should license produce the Su-30mkk and the Mig-31 and upgrade their current force of fighters and helo's
And why shouldn't Iran have a nuke if they want it.
Pakistan, India, Ukraine, Russia and Israel all have nukes and they are Iran's neighbours. Iran should build some nukes to show their nuclear armed neighbours that Iran is prepared to defend itself from Nuclear attack. And what Hipocrits america are. As they have nukes and alot of them at that, what gives them the right to say who can have them and who cant.
I feel very strongly that America is the cause of all evil in this world.
I am a 30 year old Australian caucasian who is a christian. My best friends are from Pakistan Turkey Lebanon Palestine. We recently had riots in our beachside suburb of Cronulla. It was all inflammed by the media. The government here is trying to install hatred against Muslims and i hate it. Australians judge people on their character as a person, not on religion or race. Australian Pri-Minister John Howard kisses George Bush's arse when ever he can
G-d bless you brother! I can tell by your writting you are a freind and stand for justice. I do as well, and you don't have to be a muslim to do that, as these people here misunderstand where I'm comming from, saying that I say all non muslims are disbelievers misquoting me and putting extra words in my mouth because they abhor Al Haqq(the truth) where they make up in their own minds to label me an imbacile. But brother, these sad fated ones will soon find out the truth of these matters in a short while as I'm only one of the plain spoken warners. I love you for Allah(swt):)

Walaikum

[Miss_Zionist]

Question. What are your preparations for self-defense in Iran against strategic nuclear strikes next month?

Do your civilians have bunkers available? stored water? food reserves?

And after, will you be abe to lynch the mad mullahs who brought you this?

[korosh_kabir]

Question. What are your preparations for self-defense in Iran against strategic nuclear strikes next month?

Do your civilians have bunkers available? stored water? food reserves?

And after, will you be abe to lynch the mad mullahs who brought you this?
what a fool you are. if you are waitning for that then sit and wait until grass grove ounder you

[Miss_Zionist]

But the blast effects alone will surely trap hundreds of thousands of mad-mullah supporters under buildings. Remember the difficulties the Iranians had following the earthquake in Bam? Things will much worse.

I'm just concerned that innocent and decent Iranians are going to be (a) fried in the blasts, (b) trapped under buildings and (c) lost in the total confusion following the strategic nuclear strikes next month.

[MSS'S]

Maam? Do you realize that if that were to happen. Israel would cease to properly function as a nation with the total loss and devastation of at least one major city? This isn't speculation or well wishing either.

[Miss_Zionist]

Dear Miss MSS's,
I fail to see how.
Do tell.
My concern is simply for the innocent, secular hard working Iranians who will suffer from next month's surgical nuclear strikes.

[admin]

Dear Miss MSS's,
I fail to see how.
Do tell.
My concern is simply for the innocent, secular hard working Iranians who will suffer from next month's surgical nuclear strikes.

Iraq used to hit Iranian cities during Iran Iraq war, I doubt America OR Israel will hit Iran but if they do there are places people can goto to take shelter, The people in power have special bunkers, abit like the ones Saddam had which could withstand a nuclear attack.

The question goes back to you, does Israel have places where they can go incase Iran attacks them? do Americans? we saw hurricane Katrina, and how organised Americans really were in an even of a disaster! Bam can't be compared to other Iranian cities.

[hammerfast]

strategic nuclear strikes next month.

ok ! your saying will be valid til march 26th , see you then ;)

[Highsky]

Nuclear strikes next month? are you kidding me or Israel want return back to 60 years ago? i hope not :)

[Miss_Zionist]

Well, there abouts my dears, give or take. Sadly so I might add.

But, I think people in that region are used to the "mother-of-all-battles", words and deeds. Or should I say mother-of-all-battles II :) Heard that before some time, some place?

Why oh why have you let your country come to this? a madman leading you to disaster. You made a mistake in your elections boy and girls.

Still concerned about all those people in Iran who will suffer during the surgical nuclear strikes next month.

[Highsky]

why you let lead your countery by a born criminal like sharon?
i doubt that you are stil concerned about us maybe you are concerned about the exicting of Israel after such a stupid action. we can defend our poeple and our countery you have to concern about the reaction more then the action ;)

[admin]

Well, there abouts my dears, give or take. Sadly so I might add.

But, I think people in that region are used to the "mother-of-all-battles", words and deeds. Or should I say mother-of-all-battles II :) Heard that before some time, some place?

Why oh why have you let your country come to this? a madman leading you to disaster. You made a mistake in your elections boy and girls.

Still concerned about all those people in Iran who will suffer during the surgical nuclear strikes next month.

Let our country come to what? enrich uranium on our soil? I would be more concerned for Russian and chinese scientists who are estimated to be from 3,000 + Russian and couple of thousand Chinese! I am also concerned for all the civilians in telaviv and the American troops in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq who will get bombed in retaliation...

Iran has the right to nuclear power, it's not Iran fault of Iran gets bombed seeking it's legal right, but it's America and Israel's fault if their civilians get killed by Iranian missiles in their cities and nuclear plants. So why did YOU let YOUR country come to this?

[hammerfast]

Well, there abouts my dears, give or take. Sadly so I might add.

But, I think people in that region are used to the "mother-of-all-battles", words and deeds. Or should I say mother-of-all-battles II :) Heard that before some time, some place?

Why oh why have you let your country come to this? a madman leading you to disaster. You made a mistake in your elections boy and girls.

Still concerned about all those people in Iran who will suffer during the surgical nuclear strikes next month.

!!?!!?! i think you better tell one of the israelis here what you wanna post in hebrew and then they post it in english for you, that way they'll probably make more sense

[Miss_Zionist]

Sharon is not the issue, if he was there is countless recorded material identifying mass murder of muslims by muslims on a massive scale, far less than defensive military actions by the IDF - do they report that where you are?

Anyway, Sharon's actions are a drop in the ocean to the obscenities committed in the middle east by other "local heros".

The situation is simple, Iran would like to obtain missiles and nuclear materials in order to wipe Israel off the map and threaten neighbours and eventually the world. Now, if anyone can prove to me that my government would like to "wipe" another state off the map using nuclear weapons, please show me.

I still have great and increasing concern about the loss of electricity and water supplies, crashing buildings and firestorms following next month's surgical nuclear strikes against Iran. ;)

[Miss_Zionist]

Dear Miss Admin,

I am not denying that an oil rich country in the middle east would have any burning desire/need for nuclear power :D - unless of course there is growing panic that the oil will be gone one day and nothing will be left.

No, my concern is simply with the hands that control the materials and what they intend to do with it.

You must admit Iran is not exactly stable when it comes to leadership or diplomacy. Can you please let me know the name of a stable and democratic country that has called for the total destruction of another country?

But perhaps nations such as the US, EU states, Russia, China, India the silent neighbours of Iran and many others have it all wrong? The nuclear race is entirely for peaceful purposes.......:rolleyes:

[admin]

Sharon is not the issue, if he was there is countless recorded material identifying mass murder of muslims by muslims on a massive scale, far less than defensive military actions by the IDF - do they report that where you are?

Anyway, Sharon's actions are a drop in the ocean to the obscenities committed in the middle east by other "local heros".

The situation is simple, Iran would like to obtain missiles and nuclear materials in order to wipe Israel off the map and threaten neighbours and eventually the world. Now, if anyone can prove to me that my government would like to "wipe" another state off the map using nuclear weapons, please show me.

I still have great and increasing concern about the loss of electricity and water supplies, crashing buildings and firestorms following next month's surgical nuclear strikes against Iran. ;)

lol, Israel wiped Palestinian state off the map, they wanted to wipe Lebanon off the map along with Egypt. Israel has a history of taking things that isn't theirs and putting their mark on it and have claim to it...

The situation is simple you are right, Iran wants to enrich uranium in Iran, the west doesn't want iran to have enrichment technology or experience, so they use blackmail, bullying and threats.

Let's face it, if Iran's nuclear plant is destroyed Iran would have lost $2-4 billion max, if Israel's one is destroyed they would have power shortage, lose capability to make more nukes, Iran would also target back anything America and Israel targets in Iran even if it means high populated civilian areas, so if i was you i would be much more concerned about Israel, nothing much can happen to Iran in terms of attack, Iran can maintain the flow of water, electricity etc. It's the small Israel you should really be worried about, Iran has already been on the verge of complete info structure destruction by Iraq in certain cities before and they survived just fine thank you.

Dear Miss Admin,

I am not denying that an oil rich country in the middle east would have any burning desire/need for nuclear power :D - unless of course there is growing panic that the oil will be gone one day and nothing will be left.

No, my concern is simply with the hands that control the materials and what they intend to do with it.

You must admit Iran is not exactly stable when it comes to leadership or diplomacy. Can you please let me know the name of a stable and democratic country that has called for the total destruction of another country?

But perhaps nations such as the US, EU states, Russia, China, India the silent neighbours of Iran and many others have it all wrong? The nuclear race is entirely for peaceful purposes.......:rolleyes:

Iran doesn't have to prove itself for anything, Israel is the one with the history of killing and murder and invading lands that doesn't belong to them, Iran has nothing to worry about, Russia and China back Iran far more than they show, So does Europe, It's only the usual suspects America and Israel who have doubts, thats only because they themselves are so sneaky in creating wmd's that they can't trust anyone else, they are paranoid.

[Miss_Zionist]

Dear Miss Admin,

Yes, Iran suffered badly at the hands of Sadaam - a fellow muslim. How many died then?

This is not about the internal problems of Israel. 2 states were declared by the UN and the Arabs decided to reject the UN resolutions.....hence the sad current situation. Bad and sad losers (as usual)

And you would have to prove using impartial evidence that Israel "wiped Palestine of the map" :rolleyes: I am guessing that you have never visited Israel. Did you see the peaceful demonstrations by Israeli Arabs concerning the cartoon hysteria? They seemed so "wiped off the map":)

No, my concern is growing greater for Iran next month.

[MiG 31]

Iran has recently accepted the Russian deal that has been going on around for a while now up till this date... honestly theres not a god dam thing US or Usrael can do... infact you should be happey we did such a thing Mr.Zionist wait i mean *Miss* zionist......

[admin]

Dear Miss Admin,

Yes, Iran suffered badly at the hands of Sadaam - a fellow muslim. How many died then?

This is not about the internal problems of Israel. 2 states were declared by the UN and the Arabs decided to reject the UN resolutions.....hence the sad current situation. Bad and sad losers (as usual)

And you would have to prove using impartial evidence that Israel "wiped Palestine of the map" :rolleyes: I am guessing that you have never visited Israel. Did you see the peaceful demonstrations by Israeli Arabs concerning the cartoon hysteria? They seemed so "wiped off the map":)

No, my concern is growing greater for Iran next month.

http://www.israelipalestinianprocon.org/NewMaps2/britishmandate1920.jpg

Palestine state 1920



and Palestinian state now (in yellow and white)

http://digilander.libero.it/avifauna/w_palearctic/saving/palestine-map.gif

I call that being wiped off the map.

Iraq killed alot of Iranians but few civilians, most killed were soldiers and not as a result of attack on Iranian infostructure but direct war.

[Miss_Zionist]

I rest my case Admin, Palestine is Jordan. Problem solved :)

[hammerfast]

I rest my case Admin, Palestine is Jordan. Problem solved :)

that "palestine" includes israel

[Miss_Zionist]

"Iraq killed alot of Iranians but few civilians, most killed were soldiers and not as a result of attack on Iranian infostructure but direct war" (Admin)

and that makes it all ok, because a muslim can kill other muslims by the 10s of thousands but terrorists killed in Israel cause you all to freak out? I can hear the gentle way you said that :)

My my, smacks of hypocracy.

Please do check out death rate facts and figures in current conflict zones and you will see that death rates for terorists in Israel are a fraction of what your brothers and sisters are doing to each other.

I suppose the recent Suni-Shiite murder-orgy in Iraq is done by Zionist agents ??

But I can hear you saying that's "understandable and acceptable" in a soft gentle voice.

growing concern

[Miss_Zionist]

that "palestine" includes israel


Oh, you greedy, greedy girl!

[MiG 31]

Oh, you greedy, greedy girl!


lol are you sure your not a homosexuall jew?

[knight]

http://www.israelipalestinianprocon.org/NewMaps2/britishmandate1920.jpg

Palestine state 1920



and Palestinian state now (in yellow and white)

http://digilander.libero.it/avifauna/w_palearctic/saving/palestine-map.gif

I call that being wiped off the map.

Iraq killed alot of Iranians but few civilians, most killed were soldiers and not as a result of attack on Iranian infostructure but direct war.

ahha ! i allways knew that jordan whiped palestine off the map!

[Highsky]

Can you please let me know the name of a stable and democratic country that has called for the total destruction of another country?

I think we did not reconized Israel as countery :p
In our policy Zionism regime have not a countery but they occupied a muslim countery.

you have firstable take a look at the Iranian map and Israeli map , it's very funny sucha stupid criminal poeple have such a big mouth. we will Israel neither usa has the balls to attack Iran .
We never invaded a countery , we never hurt any neighbours at all, we always supported weak poeple and weak countery's.
and if we read history we can see that jews were hiding themself from their dirty actions all the time.
You are not a nation without stump and united origin, you occupied a countery and you killed poeple , you made poeple homeless, you destryed teir homes and you are here talkin about democrasy hehe
And of course you want your crimes behind the holocaust ;)

[hammerfast]

Oh, you greedy, greedy girl!

hey :confused: what the **** is going on here ? why you call everyone a miss ? i doubt you being a female

[MSS'S]

Dear Miss MSS's,
I fail to see how.
Do tell.
My concern is simply for the innocent, secular hard working Iranians who will suffer from next month's surgical nuclear strikes.
Thats Mr. MSS'S. MSSS'S is the only accurate abbreviated pronunciation of my past lifetime name I was given when i lived in Egypt. Moses.

[hammerfast]

Thats Mr. MSS'S. MSSS'S is the only accurate abbreviated pronunciation of my past lifetime name I was given when i lived in Egypt. Moses.
where are you living now? new york ;)

[MSS'S]

Dear Miss MSS's,
I fail to see how.
Do tell.
My concern is simply for the innocent, secular hard working Iranians who will suffer from next month's surgical nuclear strikes.
Read under this heading: Immediate Iranian Retaliatory Missile Attacks and Countermeasures
http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/week/040812.htm

[MSS'S]

where are you living now? new york ;)
Presently, where I'm from.

[hammerfast]

Presently, where I'm from.

just kidding ,.........

[Musa a.s.]

Oh, you greedy, greedy girl!
Interesting sig, as an American, I can say that I was never since introspection, ignorant of Israeli society unlike many Europeans, Israel is a majorly Jewish America IMOA. Take the good with the bad, but anyplace stinks if the bad outweighs the good and I use a 360o universal standard in my assesments.

[tonahtiu]

Today you do not hear Bush or America talking about wiping out a Nation and taking someones lands. The U.S. has never conquered a Nation and taken their land, not talking about the North American continent. The Iranian President is talking about comitting genocide, wiping a nation off the planet, and pushing a race into the sea and taking over that land. The fundamentalists Muslims want to create a world wide caliphate and subjugate the entire world to live under Taliban law.

Sorry, but that is never ever going to happen.

Usamerica invade :2001-afghanistan, 2003-Iraq, 2006-Dominican republic, -The U.S. has never conquered a Nation!!!!!:confused:

[tonahtiu]

mate seriously you live in America and all you hear is what the American Media tells you. The fact is that America is the No. 1 proliferator of conflict around the world. .

I live in Mexico, and is in America, and we are not USA :mad:

[tonahtiu]

Dear Miss MSS's,
I fail to see how.
Do tell.
My concern is simply for the innocent, secular hard working Iranians who will suffer from next month's surgical nuclear strikes.

Israel is intelligent and wont atack iran with nuclear weapons, the retaliate will terrible, maybe with sunburns and onix with nuclear heads

http://vialls.net/myahudi/sunburn.html

[Snauhi]

LOl i love the link!!1!! good job on getting that one... I bet that guy is an expert

[Miss_Zionist]

Keep dreaming kiddoes!

Russia to help Iran??? Laughing my fat tuches off. Russia takes the highest bid from the nearest pimp and Iran sure doesn't have too many loose rubels hanging around.

Why the hell would they help when Iran finances Chechen terrorists that attack Russian schools? ......and will become even more dangerous to Russian interests if not stopped......duuuurrrrr.

It's all a game and the trap is falling.

Still terribly, terribly concerned about the effects of the surgical nuclear strikes THIS month :D

[Highsky]

thats first time that i hear Iran supported chechen, have you any sources?
why Russia helps? i think they are not helping us but they make good business with us (Big deal).
so if they have intrest and profit in business with iran why they must not help iran by the way? ;)

[korosh_kabir]

thats first time that i hear Iran supported chechen, have you any sources?
why Russia helps? i think they are not helping us but they make good business with us (Big deal).
so if they have intrest and profit in business with iran why they must not help iran by the way? ;)
brother plzzzz

when she said that we support chechnia then i dont accept anything from her.

[Miss_Zionist]

Iranian fingers are in EVERY Islamic terrorist pie. Don't kid yourselves.

Every country you sit in knows it, just the little Iranian ex-pats don't.

Tick-tock

[Miss_Zionist]

By ASSOCIATED PRESS
KABUL, Afghanistan

US President George W. Bush said Wednesday that Iran must not be allowed to develop nuclear weapons.

On a surprise visit to Afghanistan, Bush said Iran should be allowed to have a civilian nuclear program, but that the "world is speaking with one voice" in opposing Iranian development of a nuclear weapon.

"Iran must not have a nuclear weapon," Bush said during a news conference in the Afghan capital of Kabul. "The most destabilizing thing that can happen in this region and the world is for Iran to develop a nuclear weapon."

tick-tock

[admin]

By ASSOCIATED PRESS
KABUL, Afghanistan

US President George W. Bush said Wednesday that Iran must not be allowed to develop nuclear weapons.

On a surprise visit to Afghanistan, Bush said Iran should be allowed to have a civilian nuclear program, but that the "world is speaking with one voice" in opposing Iranian development of a nuclear weapon.

"Iran must not have a nuclear weapon," Bush said during a news conference in the Afghan capital of Kabul. "The most destabilizing thing that can happen in this region and the world is for Iran to develop a nuclear weapon."

tick-tock

lol, Bush can't do anything about iran at all, he can't even stop attacks in Iraq...

Tick-Tock for America in Iraq and Afghanistan more like.

As i said before, Iran would damage Israel far more than Israel would damage Iran in any attack on iran's nuclear plant. If iran was to take out the Israeli dam and nuclear plant, that's enough to put Israel in all sorts of serious trouble, that's not even taking into account the damage on Isreal's military positions. Not smart idea.

Now i know you are trying to make a flame with your "tick tock's" and articles aimed to start flames, not smart move here... You can state your opinion, but you can't post things that you know will start flames or end with flames.

[korosh_kabir]

Iranian fingers are in EVERY Islamic terrorist pie. Don't kid yourselves.

Every country you sit in knows it, just the little Iranian ex-pats don't.

Tick-tock
i am to smart to follow your tricks.
know i am sure either you are to naive or you are just here to start a flame because you just talk with no ground.
but thank that you make fun of your self.

[Miss_Zionist]

lol, Bush can't do anything about iran at all, he can't even stop attacks in Iraq...

Tick-Tock for America in Iraq and Afghanistan more like.

As i said before, Iran would damage Israel far more than Israel would damage Iran in any attack on iran's nuclear plant. If iran was to take out the Israeli dam and nuclear plant, that's enough to put Israel in all sorts of serious trouble, that's not even taking into account the damage on Isreal's military positions. Not smart idea.

Now i know you are trying to make a flame with your "tick tock's" and articles aimed to start flames, not smart move here... You can state your opinion, but you can't post things that you know will start flames or end with flames.



There is never "flame" in my posts.

And "tick tock" referes to the countdown to the missiles that are very soon going to fall across Iran. If you don't like what I say you are free to ignore. It's your right to do so in a free space - right?

And no, no one can do anything about attacks (suicide bomings) in Iraq but it's just Muslims being blown to pieces by their "brothers" isn't it? What can, and will, be done is to put a stop to a vicious and dangerous regime like the mullah-run gang in Tehran. That will soon be stopped.

Sadly,all the c***p written about Iranian retaliation is a little outdated. It's just hot wind blowing.

My concern for the secular, hardworking average Iranian citizen during this month's strategic nuclear bombings across Iran is reaching screaming heights!

[Musa a.s.]

She doesn't have to believe what we say. Just as she says its free space.
But for you longer users of the forum, don't forget by premanision that I mentioned in an older thread. It looked frightning even for me. I don't know how it ends though as after the major Israeli city vaporized, I saw a cautious U.S. Naval Battleship ARMADA like the WWII Western Fleet approaching ME gulfs, the mediteranean and Persian, then my visionary connection closed without a substantative end.

[Highsky]

And "tick tock" referes to the countdown to the missiles that are very soon going to fall across Iran.
usa and Israel naive poeple like you are from 2 years ago countdown and they can countdown the next 20 year hehe
but we are exiced who gonna launch those missiles ;) tock tock PiiiS



Sadly,all the c***p written about Iranian retaliation is a little outdated. It's just hot wind blowing.
The action you are counting at , is acutally outdated. hehe

My concern for the secular, hardworking average Iranian citizen during this month's strategic nuclear bombings across Iran is reaching screaming heights
i m countdown untill this month, if there will No strike against Iran hehe
what would u say then? countdown to next month? next years? hum...

[korosh_kabir]

i m countdown untill this month, if there will No strike against Iran hehe
what would u say then? countdown foe next month? next years? hum...
lool that sound like mujahedin and pahlavi each new year they said we would free iran for new year and they are quiet and start again before new year, we would hear from them soon again.

[admin]

There is never "flame" in my posts.

And "tick tock" referes to the countdown to the missiles that are very soon going to fall across Iran. If you don't like what I say you are free to ignore. It's your right to do so in a free space - right?

And no, no one can do anything about attacks (suicide bomings) in Iraq but it's just Muslims being blown to pieces by their "brothers" isn't it? What can, and will, be done is to put a stop to a vicious and dangerous regime like the mullah-run gang in Tehran. That will soon be stopped.

Sadly,all the c***p written about Iranian retaliation is a little outdated. It's just hot wind blowing.

My concern for the secular, hardworking average Iranian citizen during this month's strategic nuclear bombings across Iran is reaching screaming heights!

Well, it's okay for you, you don't live in Israel or America do you? so thats why you're not worried...

Okay, sure, Iran will be bombed and destroyed, go ahead and think what you will...

[Musa a.s.]

I think she may live in Israel. Check her IP. I think she is that bedouin Arab Zionist IDF lady that posted here on the forum before I arived. I could be wrong though.:confused:

[hammerfast]

how do u check other's ip ?

[Janbaz]

No wars will happen. There will not be any American or even Israeli's attack on any Iranian Nuclear installations for Military base or compunds. Instead there will be some Mussel flexing by both Iran and US. There will be some Sanctions on Iran, and Iran will lower it production qouta to shortfall the supply VS demand. Also there might be some cooperations behind the seen from Soudi Arabia, Yaman, and lowering their production to increase prices. Then and then, US will enter into direct negotiations with Iran, and with some gurantees and concessions from both side, the whole thing will be solved. Watch and see. Once the price of Barrel of Oil reaches $100 by Late Summer without a single shot is fired, then these negotiations will start take into place.

Personaly I am for dismanteling all Nuclear, Military, Airoforce, Army of the WORLD. Why can't the whole world work to gether and invest their resources jointly to imporve living standard every where in the world, Space, and migrate to other planets. Why can't we all live in Peace? Why? Why there must be another nation to foce his/her own way to others? why? Human race has a wild Gene and that Gene must be eliminated from Human race.

[Musa a.s.]

how do u check other's ip ?
I'm talking to the admins, they do it to us all.

[Miss_Zionist]

Well, it's okay for you, you don't live in Israel or America do you? so thats why you're not worried...

Okay, sure, Iran will be bombed and destroyed, go ahead and think what you will...

I am an Israeli wherever I may be Ms. Admin, and don't forget it. That I post from France is not the point.

My concern is for all sensible and free peoples, unless of course they attempt to
use horrible methods.

[hammerfast]

My concern is for all sensible and free peoples, unless of course they attempt to
use horrible methods.

lol !!!! ........................

[Miss_Zionist]

My lesbian curry is calling me.

Please eat well tonight dear laughing friend.

Remove the mullahs and all will be well.

[hammerfast]

My lesbian curry is calling me.

Please eat well tonight dear laughing friend.

Remove the mullahs and all will be well.
i was laughing at the stupidity of the post
ADMIN please ! all we were missing here was a french jewish lesbian

[Janbaz]

NATO May Help US Airstrikes on Iran


WHEN Major-General Axel Tüttelmann, the head of Nato’s Airborne Early Warning and Control Force, showed off an AWACS early warning surveillance plane in Israel a fortnight ago, he caused a flurry of concern back at headquarters in Brussels.
It was not his demonstration that raised eyebrows, but what he said about NATO’s possible involvement in any future military strike against Iran. “We would be the first to be called up if the NATO council decided we should be,” he said.
NATO would prefer the emphasis to remain on the “if”, but Tüttelmann’s comments revealed that the military alliance could play a supporting role if America launches airstrikes against Iranian nuclear targets.
The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) will tomorrow confirm Iran’s referral to the United Nations Security Council for possible sanctions.
Iran insists it is developing peaceful nuclear energy, a claim regarded as bogus by America and Britain, France and Germany, which believe it wants to develop nuclear weapons. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s remarks about wiping Israel “off the map” have added to fears.
America and Israel have warned that they will not tolerate a nuclear-armed Iran. If negotiations fail, both countries have plans of last resort for airstrikes against Iran’s widely dispersed nuclear facilities.
Porter Goss, the head of the CIA, visited Recep Erdogan, the prime minister of Turkey, a NATO country, late last year and asked for political, logistical and intelligence support in the event of airstrikes, according to western intelligence sources quoted in the German media.
The news magazine Der Spiegel noted: “Washington appears to be dispatching high-level officials to prepare its allies for a possible attack.”
NATO would be likely to operate air defences in Turkey, according to Dan Goure, a Pentagon adviser and vice-president of the Lexington Institute, a military think tank.
A former senior Israeli defence official said he believed all NATO members had contingency plans.
John Pike, director of the US military studies group Globalsecurity.org, said America had little to gain from NATO military help. “I think we are attempting to bring the alliance along politically so that when all diplomatic initiatives have been exhausted and we blow up their sites, we can say, ‘Look, we gave it our best shot’.”
A senior British defence official said plans to attack Iran were pure speculation. “I don’t think anybody has got that far yet,” he said. “We’re all too distracted by Iraq.”
Israel’s special forces are said to be operating inside Iran in an urgent attempt to locate the country’s secret uranium enrichment sites. “We found several suspected sites last year but there must be more,” an Israeli intelligence source said. They are operating from a base in northern Iraq, guarded by Israeli soldiers with the approval of the Americans, according to Israeli sources.
The commander of Israel’s nuclear missile submarines warned Iran indirectly in a comment to an Israeli newspaper last week that “we are able to hit strategic targets in a foreign country”.
The Israelis fear Iran may reach the “point of no return” — at which it has the capacity to enrich uranium to bomb-grade purity — in the next few months. The Americans are more interested in the point at which Iran is close to developing an actual bomb, thought to be at least three years away.
Two Iranian opposition groups claimed this weekend that Iran had increased its production of Shahab 3 missiles, which have a range of 1,200 miles, sufficient to reach Israel. Diplomatic efforts to contain Iran are likely to proceed slowly, given Russian and Chinese opposition to punitive action. A Foreign Office official said although the IAEA would refer Iran to the security council, any sanctions would be a “strictly step-by-step process”.

[Secular Democracy]

NATO May Help US Airstrikes on Iran



I noticed people attacking Miss Zionist for saying Tick Tock. It's not flaming.

Many believe (Iranian or not) time is'nt exactly on the MooLLAH's side.


BTW, that article was also posted here:

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6073

[Janbaz]

Miss Zionist, How much you want to bet that you say This month (March 2006) and I would say there won't be any war between Iran and US & Israel at least until next year 2007? We can send the money to the moderator of this web site and the loser will help this web site to clean up and force some sensible posting? who wants to enter into this bet?
Mr. Moderator can we do this?

[Highsky]

march 2003->Tick Tack - tick Tack - Tick Tick -Tick tack
march 2004-> Tick Tack ................................Tick Tack
march 2005-> Tick Tack.................................Tick Tack
march 2006-> Tick Tack.................................Tick Tack
march 2007-> Tick Tack.................................Tick Tack
The World reconized Iran as Nuclear Power
march 2008-> Tick Tack................................Tick Tack
march 3000-> Tick Tack................................Tick Tack

Miss zionist get boring but she counts down ;)

[Capricorn Edge]

march 2003->Tick Tack - tick Tack - Tick Tick -Tick tack
march 2004-> Tick Tack ................................Tick Tack
march 2005-> Tick Tack.................................Tick Tack
march 2006-> Tick Tack.................................Tick Tack
march 2007-> Tick Tack.................................Tick Tack
The World reconized Iran as Nuclear Power
march 2008-> Tick Tack................................Tick Tack
march 3000-> Tick Tack................................Tick Tack

Miss zionist get boring but she counts down ;)

LOL!!!:p

Last year, Scott Ritter says US will attack Iran in June 2005, and see what happens......NOTHING!!! All of those statements are just empty threats. They are too busy in Iraq to be able to start a war with Iran, and military action against Iran won't ever happen.

But that doesn't mean Iran should let their guard down. Continue on with Shahab-3/4 production and beef up your military by 5 times its present strength.

[Snauhi]

Just wait... Now hole world community is againts Iran.

Even if USA will strike iranian nuc sites, Iran will only respond with missiles nothing else,

[Highsky]

Just wait... Now hole world community is againts Iran.

Even if USA will strike iranian nuc sites, Iran will only respond with missiles nothing else,

hehe without Usa Noon from your world community has the balls to threat Iran.
actually the world community that you mean are against Iran because of us pressure otherwise they have No problem with Iran.
so 1 option is us action whiches we are ready and it's not a good time for usa to join onother war with i big skill.
just missiles as respond? ;)

Iran is sending Quds forces from Iranian Revolutionary Guard forces, into Iraq
March 07, 2006
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,90233,00.html
They are already in Iraq ,Afghanistan,Lebanon,syria and maybe in Israel ;)
take an stupid action and you will see how painfull we respond.:p

[Highsky]

LOL!!!:p

Last year, Scott Ritter says US will attack Iran in June 2005, and see what happens......NOTHING!!! All of those statements are just empty threats. They are too busy in Iraq to be able to start a war with Iran, and military action against Iran won't ever happen.

But that doesn't mean Iran should let their guard down. Continue on with Shahab-3/4 production and beef up your military by 5 times its present strength.
BiG LoooooOooooooL
I was right take a Look here they dont want attack Iran in march 2006 but in march 2007 looooooooooool <--- Miss zionist Tick tack until next year baby ;)

Iran bombing odds are 2:1 by 2007 <------ Miss Zionist
Tick Tack ;)
The odds of an American or Israeli airstrike on Iran by March 31, 2007 are 2:1, according to April editions of the Atlantic Magazine. The magazine relies on online betting at tradesports.com, and provides a few details of the circumstances in which each strike might take place.

The Atlantic is known for its predictions of future events, and has held widely respected debates on military strikes on North Korea and Iran. Neither scenarios resulted in a favorable position for the United States. Excerpts follow.

http://rawstory.com/news/2006/Mag_Iran_bombing_odds_are_21_0307.html

[Janbaz]

Rumsfield is a Joke. If you have been reading the news, you would know that, there was a news acouple of days ago, that US forces beefed up the security along Turkey and Syria borders, but no mention of Iran border. Why is that, because there is nothing to be worried about Iran border with Iraq and it is as safe as it can be.

[Miss_Zionist]

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Tuesday reaffirmed the US position that any nuclear enrichment on Iranian soil is unacceptable.

Speaking after meeting Ms Rice in Washington, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov insisted all Russia's recent negotiations had been focused on trying to persuade Tehran to comply with IAEA demands.

"There is no compromise new Russian proposal," he said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4782930.stm

Tick tock

Looks like the noose is tightening girls. Even the "friends" of the whore are leaving the ship.

As you all know my concern is at an all time heigh for the innocent Iranians during this months strategic nuclear bombing of Iranian.

[Arashi]

As you all know my concern is at an all time heigh for the innocent Iranians during this months strategic nuclear bombing of Iranian.

You don't seem that concerned :)

[satyre035]

Weither there is a war or not, weither in 4 months or 4 years, ONE thing is for sure.

Israel and the USA will not sit the arms crossed while waiting for the mullahs to get an atomic weapon.
Iran is getting more and more isolated.In case of a war allied forces are all around Iran from north,east,west and south.

Some people say that the USA is 'afraid' to attack Iran. Although Iran WILL retaliate in case of an attack, Israel and the USA consider the price of a war lower than letting Iran getting the bomb.

Iran is not Iraq nor Afghanistan....but that doesn't mean the americans are afraid. 35 years ago the USA was using technology that Iran cannot even produce today....

Forget about the OVER-RATED things you hear on the news.
I have a friend in Iran who is a student air force pilot ( third year ) and he says the technology Iran has is not even comparable to USA or Israel.

[hammerfast]

35 years ago the USA was using technology that Iran cannot even produce today....


iran can produce ANYTHING if not constantly bullied and pushed away to corners ; why dont u take a personal survey and see for yourself how many iranians are / were employed in nasa ?

[satyre035]

iran can produce ANYTHING if not constantly bullied and pushed away to corners ; why dont u take a personal survey and see for yourself how many iranians are / were employed in nasa ?

You got wrong what i said....
I didn't say that Iranians don't have the POTENTIAL to build anything...I know how many Iranians are in NASA and not only NASA but all the Iranian scientists around the world.

i am saying that the CURRENT Iranian technology is not comparable...

[hammerfast]

You got wrong what i said....
I didn't say that Iranians don't have the POTENTIAL to build anything...I know how many Iranians are in NASA and not only NASA but all the Iranian scientists around the world.

i am saying that the CURRENT Iranian technology is not comparable...
no i got what u said totally right , now tell me , under what conditions that POTENTIAL becomes KINETIC !! ?
a lot of the brain power contributed to the manhatan project came from UK , why didnt they develop the bomb at home , where they needed it the most !?

[satyre035]

look,

giving an atomic weapon to the mullahs is like giving an AK-47 in the hands of a 7 year old child.

I read Ahmadinejads speach at the UN and i AGREE with most of the things he said, i'm not a Pro-American.
But a regime that has been suporting terror for the past 26 years, a regime that doesn't even recognize the existence of israel...would you trust them with nuclear weapons?

bullying is the wrong term here...i don't agree with it

[attitude]

Iran doesnt need nukes. Next door pakistan alredy has them and that is a great deterant because any nuclear attack on Iran would hurt Pakistan as well. And Pakistan would provide nukes if israel used them against any Muslim country.
Pakistan participated in the 73 war

[Janbaz]

This was published today regarding US contacts with Iran with low level diplomatic tie.

ANKARA [MENL] -- The United States plans to renew diplomatic relations with Iran.

Officials said the administration has sought to establish low-level diplomatic ties with the regime in Teheran. They said the State Department would seek to open an office in Iran.

U.S. ambassador to Turkey, Ross Wilson, said the administration intends to open a representative office in Iran. Wilson, in a visit to the U.S. consulate in Adana on March 7, said the office in Iran could be established in the near future.

Wilson did not say whether Iran has approved the U.S. request. The United States has not stationed an official representative in Iran since 1979.

[korosh_kabir]

You got wrong what i said....
I didn't say that Iranians don't have the POTENTIAL to build anything...I know how many Iranians are in NASA and not only NASA but all the Iranian scientists around the world.

i am saying that the CURRENT Iranian technology is not comparable...

you have absoultly right
the iranian tecnologi i air combat is far from us tecnologi and they would beet ous every single battle but i am sure that iranian would hit back on those sections that they believe us is weak.
i dont think iranian air force said today we gone attack usa navy 300 planes with our 20 planes.

@yes they have started a dialog

[Highsky]

Weither there is a war or not, weither in 4 months or 4 years, ONE thing is for sure.

Israel and the USA will not sit the arms crossed while waiting for the mullahs to get an atomic weapon.
Iran is getting more and more isolated.In case of a war allied forces are all around Iran from north,east,west and south.

Some people say that the USA is 'afraid' to attack Iran. Although Iran WILL retaliate in case of an attack, Israel and the USA consider the price of a war lower than letting Iran getting the bomb.

Iran is not Iraq nor Afghanistan....but that doesn't mean the americans are afraid. 35 years ago the USA was using technology that Iran cannot even produce today....

Forget about the OVER-RATED things you hear on the news.
I have a friend in Iran who is a student air force pilot ( third year ) and he says the technology Iran has is not even comparable to USA or Israel.
Everybody knows Us Millitary is the most strong power in the world , No discussion about that.
But the quastion is that do You think Usa can pay the Price for onother Illegal war at the time thatthey are busy in Iraq and Afghanistan without any succes?
can Usa make good the International economic demages to china,russia,japan,germany,GB,france and the rest?
Iran is not just Iranian teritory, in the cas of war the whole region would be Iranian soil to fight back , from lebanon to afghanistan From north to south, in moutains,sea,air,deserts, cities in Iraq , streets in afghanistan,Israel, everywhere you can imagine.
Do you think Usa can be succesfull in Afghanistan and Iraq without Iranian Coopration?
800,000 millitary forces,2000000 Gurillia forces,Qods forces whiches can operate everywhere in the world?
dont forget we are at home but us is out of homeso we can use all of our potential.
anyway our Army is weakker then usa and we dont shame but we are proud because we dont let that the biggest and the the most powerfull countery can't break us we we follow our intrest without to care to their opinion at all.

[Highsky]

you have absoultly right
the iranian tecnologi i air combat is far from us tecnologi and they would beet ous every single battle but i am sure that iranian would hit back on those sections that they believe us is weak.
i dont think iranian air force said today we gone attack usa navy 300 planes with our 20 planes.

@yes they have started a dialog

my friend Iran has almost 260 plans ready and not 20.

[hammerfast]

Iran doesnt need nukes. Next door pakistan alredy has them and that is a great deterant because any nuclear attack on Iran would hurt Pakistan as well. And Pakistan would provide nukes if israel used them against any Muslim country.
Pakistan participated in the 73 war
what does it have to do with pakistan ? iran cant rely on pakistan ! why did france pull out of nato and pursue its own nuke program ?

[korosh_kabir]

my friend Iran has almost 260 plans ready and not 20.
yes frien i know that iran hade more then 20 planes but i just wanted to say to him that we would not fight on that way that is east for usa.
as egyptian president said severl time
if usa attack the hell wpuld break out. it would be a global war.

[Highsky]

U.S. Warns Iran on Forces Inside Iraq
JIM MANNION, AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE
Fri, 10 Mar 2006, 06:02

U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said March 9 the United States has no plans to attack Iran but warned that U.S. forces would take “appropriate” action to stop Iranian forces infiltrating Iraq.
Rumsfeld charged that Iran is inserting people into Iraq to do “damaging and dangerous” things to U.S. forces and warned that “our forces will certainly take the appropriate steps to stop them.”
General Peter Pace, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, followed with a more explicit warning in Senate testimony, declaring that U.S. forces will treat any Iranian forces that fight them inside Iraq as enemy forces.
Both men were asked by Senator Robert Byrd, a Democrat, whether any of the $72 dollars in emergency funds being requested by Congress for military operations will be used to plan attacks against Iran.

”Sir, the answer is: No, sir, with inside the borders of Iran. But if there are Iranians fighting against U.S. in Iraq then, of course, we would treat them like the enemy in Iraq,” Pace said.

”We know that they have provided some munitions, some weapons and that there are some agents, Iranian, in Iraq,” he said.

Pace added that he did not know whether the Iranians intended to engage in fighting.
On March 7, Rumsfeld directly accused the Islamic government in Tehran for the first time of sending Iranian Revolutionary Guard into Iraq to make trouble.
The U.S. military has said in the past that advanced roadside bombs with shaped armor-penetrating explosives and sophisticated triggering devices have been turning up in Iraq.
US military intelligence sources said the weapons have been traced to Iran’s Revolutionary Guard or Hezbollah, the Iranian-backed militia in Lebanon.
The Iranian angle has come to fore at a time both of heightened sectarian tension in Iraq, pitting Shia against Sunnis, and a sharpening diplomatic confrontation with Tehran over its nuclear program.
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who also joined the hearing before the Senate Appropriations Committee, singled out Iran as the single biggest challenge to the United States in the Middle East.
She said it was “the central banker of terrorism” in the region, and said the threat it poses would be exponentially greater if it acquires nuclear weapons.
Although she emphasized diplomatic efforts to isolate Tehran, Byrd said there were rumors the U.S. military is making preparations for military action against Iran.
Byrd said in his view any attack on Iran would risk setting off a regional conflict at a time when the United States already has its hands full in Iraq.
He pressed Rumsfeld to say whether any of the funds being sought would go to plan such an attack.
”Senator Byrd, I know of no plans to attack Iran, if that’s the big thrust of your question,” Rumsfeld said.
Rumsfeld added, however, that “it’s a responsibility under the law for the Department of Defense to consider a variety of contingencies and be prepared to deal with them should the Congress and the president request it.”
http://www.****************/news/publish/article_005133.php

[Miss_Zionist]

NATO Planes Deployed for "Demonstrations" in Israel
20:51 Mar 08, '06


The supreme NATO allied commander in Europe, General James Jones of the United States military, revealed on Tuesday that NATO planes have been deployed in Israel for "demonstrations" and that the alliance coordinates security in the Mediterranean region with the Jewish State. The operations with Israel, he implied, were meant to ward off threats from Iran.

Gen. Jones made the revelation during testimony before the US Senate in reply to a question from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) about what NATO was doing regarding a potential Iranian nuclear threat to Israel.

http://www.israelnn.com/news.php3?id=99895

[PersianMagi]

There are many conspiracy theories about America and Bush being a Mason, and Bush allowing 9/11. I like to deal in facts. 19 hyjackers were Muslim. Bin Laden declared that he organized 9/11 and why.

You guys always throw up the fact that we trained and backed Osama, but you never say why we did so. You forget that during the Cold War era there were 2 superpowers not 1. The Soviet Union was trying to make inroads into the Middle East through Afghanistan. Anybody who was fighting the Soviet Union were our friends.

Today you do not hear Bush or America talking about wiping out a Nation and taking someones lands. The U.S. has never conquered a Nation and taken their land, not talking about the North American continent. The Iranian President is talking about comitting genocide, wiping a nation off the planet, and pushing a race into the sea and taking over that land. The fundamentalists Muslims want to create a world wide caliphate and subjugate the entire world to live under Taliban law.

Sorry, but that is never ever going to happen.


Bush is too stupid to be part of the freemasons.