Iran put the logo of the Revolutionary Guards on side of US warship

[Bosnian]

Iran drones 'can attack US ships'
By Frances Harrison
BBC News, Tehran



USS John C Stennis is being deployed to the Persian Gulf
An Iranian website close to the Revolutionary Guard has said they have drones that can launch attacks on American warships in the Persian Gulf.

This comes as the US has sent a second aircraft carrier to the Gulf in a move it says is intended to warn Iran that it intends to have a regional presence.

Both sides have increased the talk of war readiness in recent weeks.

This comes as concerns mount internationally about Iran's nuclear programme and its involvement in Iraq.

The Baztab website quotes the acting commander of the Revolutionary Guard's land forces as saying that Iran has unmanned aircraft that can fly long distances and launch attacks on American warships.

The commander reportedly said this would make the Americans leave the region in shame.

He added Iran had all US activity, including the slightest changes of the enemy, under constant surveillance.

And the website also quoted the commander claiming that Iran had managed to put the logo of the Revolutionary Guards on the side of an American warship in the Gulf to demonstrate how insecure they were in this region.

There is no independent confirmation of these Iranian assertions, but they show how Tehran is trying to counter what it says is the psychological warfare of the Americans with claims of military superiority.

Every few weeks, there are new Iranian war games and state television shows pictures of fresh military hardware like missiles and torpedoes being tested.

[IRGC]

LOL, thats impressive, i wonder how they done it if its true

[mirza]

frogmen maybe , but they re crazy cause i guess gulf s got sharks

[Kaveh]

frogmen maybe , but they re crazy cause i guess gulf s got sharks

lol yeah they irgc done this with this unit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOPDVHM_07o

i think

[Abu-Jihad]

I think that is done with something like a HP plotter :D Because their naval forces is not able to see a Big Japanese Trade Ship in Hormoz ...:D a plotter is much more smaller than a ship :D

[rabs]

It doesn't make sense, how would they helicopter get that close to drop them off without them having to swim 100+ miles.

I wanna see some pictures.

[IRGC]

LOL, i think they just took 'stealth' to a whole new level. How can you draw a logo on the side of a warship without being caught.

[payam]

i know how...they used a printer...:DLOL
usa must know that cant do anything...we'll create a hell for them if they want to attack us...all around the world.....these are in a dream....they think they are realy that powerfull to do what they want with the god nation

[Kaveh]

i know how...they used a printer...:DLOL
usa must know that cant do anything...we'll create a hell for them if they want to attack us...all around the world.....these are in a dream....they think they are realy that powerfull to do what they want with the god nation

lol :D





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[Kamistan]

any evidence?

[payam]

[iranian UAV Over US Aircraft Carrier]
http://www.iribnews.ir/PhotoGallery/Photo/_f385fef9-cfbb-4de3-848d-3211975fb095.wmv
This video got released some month after recording
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[ Iran put the logo of the Revolutionary Guards on side of US warship]
U want evidence??Not now , and not in this political situation....in futuer u'll see

[Sajjad]

Maybe using those underwater machine that have engine and move you forward with it?

[payam]

Maybe using those underwater machine that have engine and move you forward with it?

yes the most probable theory is this.....

[Abu-Jihad]

This video got released some month after recording
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[ Iran put the logo of the Revolutionary Guards on side of US warship]
U want evidence??Not now , and not in this political situation....in futuer u'll see
the link is broken my bro. :)

[sayenforever]

As long as Iranians stay united, the US can't do anything. The US wants easy prey, they want Iranian Generals to give away key information - that's why they're spending so much time trying to intimidate Iran. As long as you guys stay united, you'll be fine - the US might have hundreds more planes than you, but they're also spread out everywhere. They can only allocate so many resources without comprimising themselves somewhere else. Already their involvement in Iraq has cost them all of South America and Africa. Asia is improving in leaps and bounds. The US better change its policies, or they will find themselves sanctioned the way Iran was in the 80s.

[mirza]

It doesn't make sense, how would they helicopter get that close to drop them off without them having to swim 100+ miles.

I wanna see some pictures.

they dont have to be dropped by chopper , there are those underwater propellers they can use and i dont think if there s any1 aboard an amerik ship sonaring for them.

[Azarakash]

Iran drones 'can attack US ships'
By Frances Harrison
BBC News, Tehran



The Baztab website quotes the acting commander of the Revolutionary Guard's land forces as saying that Iran has unmanned aircraft that can fly long distances and launch attacks on American warships.

The commander reportedly said this would make the Americans leave the region in shame.

He added Iran had all US activity, including the slightest changes of the enemy, under constant surveillance.

And the website also quoted the commander claiming that Iran had managed to put the logo of the Revolutionary Guards on the side of an American warship in the Gulf to demonstrate how insecure they were in this region.
Now that was cool. This is a real life X-game move! Iran should have every last one of those ships, marked, targeted and ready for deep-sea delivery when the way start.
But personally, I think Iran should use their drones to disable U.S. antennaes. You know, like an ECM attack.

[crod]

frogmen maybe , but they re crazy cause i guess gulf s got sharks

Sensor pulses on suits deter and would be free lunches!!!

The fact they didn’t take some kind photo of this leaves me very sceptical as it would have been very easy to do given the size of spy technology these days along with sending a very clear if not cheeky warning etc.

Class bit of counter psychological warfare, lol

[Sajjad]

Sensor pulses on suits deter and would be free lunches!!!

The fact they didn’t take some kind photo of this leaves me very sceptical as it would have been very easy to do given the size of spy technology these days along with sending a very clear if not cheeky warning etc.

Class bit of counter psychological warfare, lol

Thank you Commander

[SS_Charlemagne]

the guys of IRGC have really a great humour sense! :D

[def]

And the website also quoted the commander claiming that Iran had managed to put the logo of the Revolutionary Guards on the side of an American warship in the Gulf to demonstrate how insecure they were in this region. .

can any one prove that with picture ?

[wxtornado]

can any one prove that with picture ?

The Iranian government is probably trying to manufacture one now, using Photoshop no doubt, and will release it soon. Standard.

[def]

The Iranian government is probably trying to manufacture one now, using Photoshop no doubt, and will release it soon. Standard.

that's realy very funny, like the (iranian) f-16 pictures offcourse :laugh4:

[sizanx]

If it's true, then they should have put explosive on their aircraft carriers, and use it if they try anything :D

[payam]

So they must do it now sizanX:D

[payam]

The Iranian government is probably trying to manufacture one now, using Photoshop no doubt, and will release it soon. Standard.

i have a question from my honey american friend:laugh4:
iran wants to tell lie to world??ok...but she cant tell lie to american navy and govs.....
we just are saying somthing , that we are sure american know it too.....cuase if we say lie,american will laugh to us and say themself: look at these mad little chicks......and they'll make themself ready for attacking iran...cuase then they are sure iran has nothing........
so as u see we CANT say propaganda in this part.....WE CANT
ur own military chiefs know it themself:laugh4:
shame on them with thier toys:roflmao3:

[seraosha]

Wow, can't believe I missed this one.
"Tagging" is something that is pretty common among Sailors and Marines, when done to other ships/planes as a prank.

But I doubt this happened. It makes a great story, and kudos as a propaganda piece, but not even in their darkest moments are the military leaders in Iran this dumb. No adult, in command of lives, and with the possibility of sparking an international incident on this scale, would risk their men on a silly mission like this.

Sure, they may want to...I mean seriously, what a coup, and who wouldn't want to pull a prank on that scale?

But the men in charge of Iran's military are professionals, and they wouldn't participate in something this childish.
The leaders in Iran are not children, are they?

[Native]

1. Nothing new or spectactular that a UAV can be used as a weapon.
2. Tagging ships and subs is not new either.
3. SDV (Swimmer Delivery Vehicle).
4. Wouldn't want to be underwater if a warship felt threatened. First two things A) Power on Sonar B) Full power to propulsion.

[payam]

as i said we must see the video to get what was it exaclly

[shaan_haider]

This is done by the crew of Iranian Submarine. The Americans as usual has no choice but to remain quite as it is embarassing and unthinkable incident for them. It only exposes the capabilities of both American and Iranian forces.

Last year the passage of the Iranian Submarine under the Aircraft Carrier and flight of Iranian UAV over Aircraft carrier were all ignored by the Americans without any denial.

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the symbol was etched onto the ship by the crew of a submarine that had managed to reach the U.S. vessel without detection by radar. Shushkari did not release specific details about the incident, but claimed that the operation proved that Iranian forces are following American fleet traffic in the region. Shushkari warned the United States that if a confrontation arises, all American forces in the gulf as well as targets inside the U.S. itself would be targets for attack. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/826019.html+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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[Jadeite]

Claims are worthless without supporting evidence.

[wxtornado]

Last year the passage of the Iranian Submarine under the Aircraft Carrier and flight of Iranian UAV over Aircraft carrier were all ignored by the Americans without any denial.

Why would the Americans even bother with something that never even happened? They wouldn't.:wub2:

[seraosha]

Oh, and you guys make fun of Israeli newspapers...:roflmao3:
Same newspaper...

http://www.farsnews.com/English/newstext.php?nn=8510200361


UFO Crash in Central Iran

TEHRAN (Fars News Agency)- An Unidentified Flying Object crashed in Barez Mounts in the central province of Kerman Wednesday morning.


Deputy Governor General of Kerman province Abulghassem Nasrollahi told FNA that the crash which was followed by an explosion and a thick spiral of smoke has caused no casualties or damage to properties.

He further denied earlier reports that the explosion has been the result of a plane or chopper crash, reminding that all the passing aircrafts have been reported as sound and safe.

The official further stated that investigations are underway by police and other relevant authorities in this regard.

While other reports spoke of meteors, Nasrollahi said there were no conclusive witnesses in this regard but he did not dismiss the possibility that the crash has been caused by a meteor.

Eye-witnesses assure that the explosion has been caused as a result of the crash of a radiant unidentified flying object onto the ground.

Meantime, an informed source told FNA that the object has been on fire and there has been thick smoke coming out of it prior to the crash, concluding that the object couldn't have been a meteor as meteors do not smoke.

The source also said that the crash has been witnessed by people in several cities, and mentioned that the rendezvous point is located 100 kilometers from the provincial capital city of Kerman.

He said that people in the city of Rafsanjan also reported to have witnessed a similar incident several days ago.

Similar crash incidents have been witnessed frequently during the last year all across Iran, and officials believe that the objects could be spy planes or a hi-tech espionage device.

[Kaveh]

Oh, and you guys make fun of Israeli newspapers...:roflmao3:
Same newspaper...

http://www.farsnews.com/English/newstext.php?nn=8510200361


UFO Crash in Central Iran

TEHRAN (Fars News Agency)- An Unidentified Flying Object crashed in Barez Mounts in the central province of Kerman Wednesday morning.


Deputy Governor General of Kerman province Abulghassem Nasrollahi told FNA that the crash which was followed by an explosion and a thick spiral of smoke has caused no casualties or damage to properties.

He further denied earlier reports that the explosion has been the result of a plane or chopper crash, reminding that all the passing aircrafts have been reported as sound and safe.

The official further stated that investigations are underway by police and other relevant authorities in this regard.

While other reports spoke of meteors, Nasrollahi said there were no conclusive witnesses in this regard but he did not dismiss the possibility that the crash has been caused by a meteor.

Eye-witnesses assure that the explosion has been caused as a result of the crash of a radiant unidentified flying object onto the ground.

Meantime, an informed source told FNA that the object has been on fire and there has been thick smoke coming out of it prior to the crash, concluding that the object couldn't have been a meteor as meteors do not smoke.

The source also said that the crash has been witnessed by people in several cities, and mentioned that the rendezvous point is located 100 kilometers from the provincial capital city of Kerman.

He said that people in the city of Rafsanjan also reported to have witnessed a similar incident several days ago.

Similar crash incidents have been witnessed frequently during the last year all across Iran, and officials believe that the objects could be spy planes or a hi-tech espionage device.


whats funny about that ? you know that UFO not means Alienspaceship

when you read the source they say "spy plane" so UAV and that is highly possibile :huh2:

[JEskandari]

Wow, can't believe I missed this one.
"Tagging" is something that is pretty common among Sailors and Marines, when done to other ships/planes as a prank.

But I doubt this happened. It makes a great story, and kudos as a propaganda piece, but not even in their darkest moments are the military leaders in Iran this dumb. No adult, in command of lives, and with the possibility of sparking an international incident on this scale, would risk their men on a silly mission like this.

Sure, they may want to...I mean seriously, what a coup, and who wouldn't want to pull a prank on that scale?

But the men in charge of Iran's military are professionals, and they wouldn't participate in something this childish.
The leaders in Iran are not children, are they?
its play of cat and mouse when two people wont like to encounter each other they will do it.

[JEskandari]

Oh, and you guys make fun of Israeli newspapers...:roflmao3:
Same newspaper...

http://www.farsnews.com/English/newstext.php?nn=8510200361


UFO Crash in Central Iran

TEHRAN (Fars News Agency)- An Unidentified Flying Object crashed in Barez Mounts in the central province of Kerman Wednesday morning.


Deputy Governor General of Kerman province Abulghassem Nasrollahi told FNA that the crash which was followed by an explosion and a thick spiral of smoke has caused no casualties or damage to properties.

He further denied earlier reports that the explosion has been the result of a plane or chopper crash, reminding that all the passing aircrafts have been reported as sound and safe.

The official further stated that investigations are underway by police and other relevant authorities in this regard.

While other reports spoke of meteors, Nasrollahi said there were no conclusive witnesses in this regard but he did not dismiss the possibility that the crash has been caused by a meteor.

Eye-witnesses assure that the explosion has been caused as a result of the crash of a radiant unidentified flying object onto the ground.

Meantime, an informed source told FNA that the object has been on fire and there has been thick smoke coming out of it prior to the crash, concluding that the object couldn't have been a meteor as meteors do not smoke.

The source also said that the crash has been witnessed by people in several cities, and mentioned that the rendezvous point is located 100 kilometers from the provincial capital city of Kerman.

He said that people in the city of Rafsanjan also reported to have witnessed a similar incident several days ago.

Similar crash incidents have been witnessed frequently during the last year all across Iran, and officials believe that the objects could be spy planes or a hi-tech espionage device.
I wont see anything loughable or funny about it

[payam]

These peope can say nothing,only funny things to change the topic

[Abbas]

seraosha, stick to the topic.

a thread was made about this story elsewhere in the forum, why have you brought it up here.

[def]

i have a question from my honey american friend:laugh4:
iran wants to tell lie to world??ok...but she cant tell lie to american navy and govs.....
we just are saying somthing , that we are sure american know it too.....cuase if we say lie,american will laugh to us and say themself: look at these mad little chicks......and they'll make themself ready for attacking iran...cuase then they are sure iran has nothing........
so as u see we CANT say propaganda in this part.....WE CANT
ur own military chiefs know it themself:laugh4:
shame on them with thier toys:roflmao3:

in spite of this i think puting the logo of the Revolutionary Guards on side of US warship is very exaggeration that no body can believe:laugh4:

[MrWanted]

in spite of this i think puting the logo of the Revolutionary Guards on side of US warship is very exaggeration that no body can believe:laugh4:

The ones who should know it know it already, both if it's true or false. PR is nice and usefull but this claim is directed at the navy top, they are the ones crying or laughing right now. They know it and Iranians know that they know it. No matter who denies is or supports it. It's a message which has reached its destination. That's all counts here.

[rabs]

Id be more apt to believe they painted it on, but engraved? Get real, that takes some time, and is bound to put off a lot of light. That a lookout has to see sooner or later. Just too many things in this story don't make sense.

How did the Iranians get that close, no swimmer regardless of condition can scrim 200+ miles outside of the AAW screen. Unless they penetrated it, which with a helicopter is unlikely, but maybe the US AAW capibilities arent what there cracked up to be, cause there was the drone thing. Still very unlikely.

That leaves them to be deployed by subs, but the subs would still have to get voraciously close AND have to open her torpedo day boors. If your captain on LA class attack sub in the area, and you heard an Iranian sub opening her doors and flooding the tubes next to one of your carriers, what are you going to do? Shoot. So the submarine insertion just seems way to risky to me.

Then theres the act itself, how were they retrieved? did they swim a 100+ miles back to sure? They weren't picked up by chopper that would be noticeable.

They couldn't drive back down to the depth of the sub, and im not even sure its possible to get back in a sub that way. The sub couldn't come close to the surface or it would surely be detected.

How did no-one see the cutting torches? Their blinding in the day time, god knows what they look like with night vision goggles or in Infa Red.

[warfobia]

it was remote plane not sub. (13 or 12 Feb 2007 Mehr News)

[wxtornado]

...plus they used super-secret underwater engraving tool, developed in Iran. I think the Iranian F-14 carries one.:roflmao3:

[rabs]

it was remote plane not sub.

How do you engrave something on the side of a ship with a plane? I'm not being a smart *** I'm actually curious.

[AK54]

if there was a story about US soldiers tagging an iranian ship something, nobody here would believe it without photos.

but you all believe this no problem, as rediculous as it is :laugh4:

[TankHunter]

Considering that after the Cole attack the US navy has been more protective of their ships. As a result of that being the case I doubt this happened unless the captain was an incompetent.

[JEskandari]

Id be more apt to believe they painted it on, but engraved? Get real, that takes some time, and is bound to put off a lot of light. That a lookout has to see sooner or later. Just too many things in this story don't make sense.

How did the Iranians get that close, no swimmer regardless of condition can scrim 200+ miles outside of the AAW screen. Unless they penetrated it, which with a helicopter is unlikely, but maybe the US AAW capibilities arent what there cracked up to be, cause there was the drone thing. Still very unlikely.

That leaves them to be deployed by subs, but the subs would still have to get voraciously close AND have to open her torpedo day boors. If your captain on LA class attack sub in the area, and you heard an Iranian sub opening her doors and flooding the tubes next to one of your carriers, what are you going to do? Shoot. So the submarine insertion just seems way to risky to me.

Then theres the act itself, how were they retrieved? did they swim a 100+ miles back to sure? They weren't picked up by chopper that would be noticeable.

They couldn't drive back down to the depth of the sub, and im not even sure its possible to get back in a sub that way. The sub couldn't come close to the surface or it would surely be detected.

How did no-one see the cutting torches? Their blinding in the day time, god knows what they look like with night vision goggles or in Infa Red.
may be its not engraved on the metal but only the paint was removed and may be they were outside the sub from the beginning

and that captain of l.a class sub if want to stay for the torpedo bay to be opened then make any action then i dont know how many torpedo can be fired before he made any move. its sort of "نوشداروی بعد از مرگ سهراب ".

[JEskandari]

...plus they used super-secret underwater engraving tool, developed in Iran. I think the Iranian F-14 carries one.:roflmao3:
now its some genuine idea

[Ricardo]

if there was a story about US soldiers tagging an iranian ship something, nobody here would believe it without photos.

but you all believe this no problem, as rediculous as it is :laugh4:

Im agree with you, i need to see photos to believe it.

This looks like a Baghdad Bob declaration.:roflmao3:

[warfobia]

I read mehr news in farsi. Shoushtari (high level Revolutionary Gaurd member) say we made "Remote Birds" that can made explosion in US warships and he accept the news about drawing logo of RG on side body of US warship.
i don't think it is wise to lie about this case.
when this level of RG speaks that mean it is true.

[AK54]

Im agree with you, i need to see photos to believe it.

This looks like a Baghdad Bob declaration.:roflmao3:
its psychological warfare on both sides...nothing new

[Oluf]

I read mehr news in farsi. Shoushtari (high level Revolutionary Gaurd member) say we made "Remote Birds" that can made explosion in US warships and he accept the news about drawing logo of RG on side body of US warship.
i don't think it is wise to lie about this case.
when this level of RG speaks that mean it is true.

Since many thousands of his audience would actually believe any crap that they serve, it would actually be very wise to lie like this. Let’s not forget that these stories are intended for misinformed and mostly ignorant masses inside Iran that will believe any “morale boosting” story, and if it is the reality or not, is not important at all.

If this story was true it would be obvious for the Iranians to indicate on what ship, where on the ship, at what time, etc… so that when the US actually could verify they would have “long faces” and the Iranian “victory” would be total. However (and as usual) this is just another of these endless propaganda stories aimed at supporting the great myth of the armed forces.

[Janbaz]

This news is bunch of BS. Some uneducated IRGC commander says something, and it is blown out of perportions. Don't belive it.

[wxtornado]

its psychological warfare on both sides...nothing new

Yeah, but don't you think the Iranian government could come up with something a little more believable, I mean, come on. :roflmao3:

[payam]

Yeah, but don't you think the Iranian government could come up with something a little more believable, I mean, come on. :roflmao3:

iranian do some unbelievable jobs....which u american just have dreams of it...

[AK54]

Yeah, but don't you think the Iranian government could come up with something a little more believable, I mean, come on. :roflmao3:
maybe they dont pay their propaganda writers very well :laugh4:

[Native]

maybe they dont pay their propaganda writers very well :laugh4:

Sure they do, with plastic keys stamped "Made in Taiwan"

[JEskandari]

Since many thousands of his audience would actually believe any crap that they serve, it would actually be very wise to lie like this. Let’s not forget that these stories are intended for misinformed and mostly ignorant masses inside Iran that will believe any “morale boosting” story, and if it is the reality or not, is not important at all.

If this story was true it would be obvious for the Iranians to indicate on what ship, where on the ship, at what time, etc… so that when the US actually could verify they would have “long faces” and the Iranian “victory” would be total. However (and as usual) this is just another of these endless propaganda stories aimed at supporting the great myth of the armed forces.

but as i know irigc usually wont need any supporting of the armed force by such act its enough to test some shahab again and show the picture and if it was for the moral of iranian people it was broadcasted several more time i didnt hear it from iranian source.

[wxtornado]

iranian do some unbelievable jobs....which u american just have dreams of it...

Has your propoganda machine come up with a photoshop of this incident yet? Surely such a big act as Iran putting a logo on a US warship can be backed up with at least one picture! Even if it will, invariably be a bad one :roflmao3:

[warfobia]

Has your propoganda machine come up with a photoshop of this incident yet? Surely such a big act as Iran putting a logo on a US warship can be backed up with at least one picture! Even if it will, invariably be a bad one :roflmao3:

that news was not important. If it was false or if it was important US should refused it. what are you waiting for? picture?
Iran is trying to show Iran is not Iraq.

[payam]

Has your propoganda machine come up with a photoshop of this incident yet? Surely such a big act as Iran putting a logo on a US warship can be backed up with at least one picture! Even if it will, invariably be a bad one :roflmao3:

I said many times about the pic or video of it....so if u are ignorance its not my problem:biggrin1:

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

I said many times about the pic or video of it....so if u are ignorance its not my problem:biggrin1: And yet you refuse to post a link of said pic or video.

[payam]

And yet you refuse to post a link of said pic or video.

what do u mean?
i said at the frist pages of this thread that why video or pic didt get released yet and why it is not propaganda and cant be a propaganda.........so go and read them
regards

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

what do u mean?
i said at the frist pages of this thread that why video or pic didt get released yet and why it is not propaganda and cant be a propaganda.........so go and read them
regardsSo you're saying that there is no video because it would be dangerous to release this in this political situation? This is proof that it's true and can't be pure lies & propaganda?:roflmao3: You must be really naive or just "brainwashed" if you believe all that stuff they tell you.

[payam]

here is what i said befor*my brainwashed bro LOL:D

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[iranian UAV Over US Aircraft Carrier]
http://www.iribnews.ir/PhotoGallery/...11975fb095.wmv
This video got released monthes after recording
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[ Iran put the logo of the Revolutionary Guards on side of US warship]
U want evidence??Not now , and not in this political situation....in futuer u'll see.........Like the UAV one iran would not release the video now

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iran is telling lie to world??ok...but she cant tell lie to american military and govs.....
we just say somthing , that we are sure american know it too.....cuase if we say lie,american would laugh to us and say themself: look at these mads little chicks......and they'll make themself ready for attacking iran...cuase then they are sure iran has nothing,cuase is telling lies..........
Its like to say jack: hey jack i kicked ur @s(:D) ,so u must did it,cuase if not,jack first would laugh to u and then kick ur @s
so as u see we CANT say propaganda in this part.....WE CANT CUASE If u be aware just some in the military software u can easly get that in these parts lie has no meaning........(CUASE U'LL GET ITS SO STUPIDLY IF U THINK IT IS PROPAGANDA)
american military chiefs know it themself
american govs didnt reject or even talk about it.........



ALSO THESE ARE NOT ALL WE HAVE....THERE IS SOME OTHER VIDEOS OF AMERICAN IN IDFFRENT OPERATIONS,I HEARED FROM MILITARY CHIEF.....AND AS I HEARED SOME OF THEM ARE SO SO FUNNY......THAT ARE A SHAME FOR AMERICAN(But these videos are from somem years and months ago up to now....but as said we never release them,except in time.....like the UAV one that got released in war games and in very important political,military situation

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

Until it's released it's a made up story. I stand by this and remove myself from the discussion.

[payam]

yes....god job..but if u think some mins its easy to get that saying lies in this kind of stages is impossible

[shasnahn]

this is baloney and iranian commandos are not this capable.

[AK54]

this is baloney and iranian commandos are not this capable.
better question is why would they risk the lives of "elite commandos" on such a pointless mission.

[payam]

better question is why would they risk the lives of "elite commandos" on such a pointless mission.

maybe its pointless misskion for u.........but for us it was necessarly in that situation to say to american that we are not that weak ,they think about........
Also it was a test of a new military instrument(it was not done by commandos)

[wxtornado]

maybe its pointless misskion for u.........but for us it was necessarly in that situation to say to american that we are not that weak ,they think about........
Also it was a test of a new military instrument(it was not done by commandos)

What new instrument, magic underwater engraving wheel? :roflmao3:

[AK54]

maybe its pointless misskion for u.........but for us it was necessarly in that situation to say to american that we are not that weak ,they think about........
Also it was a test of a new military instrument(it was not done by commandos)
even if this ridiculous story were true, what would it prove? that iranian generals care more about "proving a point" than the lives of their own men?

[payam]

What new instrument, magic underwater engraving wheel? :roflmao3:

Exaclly in this thread we have a post about it..that what was it...go and see it,we said it previously

[payam]

even if this ridiculous story were true, what would it prove? that iranian generals care more about "proving a point" than the lives of their own men?

the prove is that if american want war,so we can create a hell for thier navy.....the instrument that carried a flag...tomorrow can carry a bomb

[AK54]

the prove is that if american want war,so we can create a hell for thier navy.....the instrument that carried a flag...tomorrow can carry a bomb
even if it happened, vandalizing a ship during peacetime is different than attacking during war.

[payam]

even if it happened, vandalizing a ship during peacetime is different than attacking during war.

yes its diffrent in some cases.....but electronic security system of ships are always on.....so when we did it ,it shows there is some ways to them,and exaclly we always search for these ways....so american must not be sure in success.......cuase all the high technologies at last have some problems themself too,and we use these problems

[AK54]

yes its diffrent in some cases.....but electronic security system of ships are always on.....so when we did it ,it shows there is some ways to them,and exaclly we always search for these ways....so american must not be sure in success.......cuase all the high technologies at last have some problems themself too,and we use these problems
what security system would that be?

of course any ship is vulnerable to suicide boat attacks and the like, but thats the disadvantage of fighting an honorless, unconventional enemy.

be sure these "commandos" would not be able to get anywhere near a ship during wartime when security is tight.

[payam]

what security system would that be?

of course any ship is vulnerable to suicide boat attacks and the like, but thats the disadvantage of fighting an honorless, unconventional enemy.

be sure these "commandos" would not be able to get anywhere near a ship during wartime when security is tight.

The story had no relation with commandos.....again same thing that i said to 'wxtornado', previously in this thread we said about the details.....go and read

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

of course any ship is vulnerable to suicide boat attacks and the like, but thats the disadvantage of fighting an honorless, unconventional enemy.LOL honorless because they don't have the high-tech and firepower the US have? Or because they're defending their own country as opposed to invading others? It's funny when American patriots honor their troops as courageous and everything when they drop bombs on civilians from high altitudes where enemy fire cannot reach them, or when they blow up stuff from within tanks that are nearly unpenetrable by weapons at the disposal of their enemies, yet when a single one of their soldier is killed by the defenders, it must have been a cowardly attack, because an honorable enemy is only one who cannot defend themselves.

A friend of mine made this statement once: Any tactic that cannot be readily countered is labelled as cowardice.

[Jadeite]

Until it's released it's a made up story. I stand by this and remove myself from the discussion.

As SomethingAwful goons like to say, "Pics or it didn't happen." I find it amazing and refreshing that we can agree on this one. Some people, like Payam, seem to be ignorant of the concept of Occam's Razor, which is that the simplest explanation is more likely.

Which is more likely?
A. Iranian commandos were somehow delivered to a target without detection, vandalized a US warship without being detected, were retrieved without being detected, and that now command is bragging about it but yet won't release evidence for 'security reasons'?
B. Lies.

Tough choice there. :wub2:

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

As SomethingAwful goons like to say, "Pics or it didn't happen." I find it amazing and refreshing that we can agree on this one. Some people, like Payam, seem to be ignorant of the concept of Occam's Razor, which is that the simplest explanation is more likely.

Which is more likely?
A. Iranian commandos were somehow delivered to a target without detection, vandalized a US warship without being detected, were retrieved without being detected, and that now command is bragging about it but yet won't release evidence for 'security reasons'?
B. Lies.

Tough choice there. :wub2:Exactly. Where's your avatar from again?
Looks like animé.

[AK54]

LOL honorless because they don't have the high-tech and firepower the US have? Or because they're defending their own country as opposed to invading others? It's funny when American patriots honor their troops as courageous and everything when they drop bombs on civilians from high altitudes where enemy fire cannot reach them, or when they blow up stuff from within tanks that are nearly unpenetrable by weapons at the disposal of their enemies, yet when a single one of their soldier is killed by the defenders, it must have been a cowardly attack, because an honorable enemy is only one who cannot defend themselves.

A friend of mine made this statement once: Any tactic that cannot be readily countered is labelled as cowardice.
a suicide attack is honorless any way you put it.


and no, your friends statement is wrong. IEDs and sniper attacks arent really readily countered, but they are legit attacks.

[Jadeite]

Exactly. Where's your avatar from again?
Looks like animé.

It is, Jin-Roh.

[Ricardo]

It is, Jin-Roh.

Why did he kill the little girl:(

[Bella]

Hey everyone, I just read the first post on this thread on how an american warship in the gulf got tagged, and its kinda funny because that same night I swam across the persian gulf and single handedly one of Iran Migs from its hanger...........seriously.......I did! I flew it home and its sitting in front of my appartment!

[korosh_kabir]

what security system would that be?

of course any ship is vulnerable to suicide boat attacks and the like, but thats the disadvantage of fighting an honorless, unconventional enemy.
.

plz i am begging you tell me that this is a joke plzzz
you really did not mean that

a suicide attack is a men who dont carry about his life because he know that when he give away his life he might secure his familis life and many others.
tell me which honoerless when a soldier make suicide attack or when a pilot dropps bomb on civilians and he know that the enemy can fire at him as long he fly high or when americans bomb a city to stone age just for not lost a soldier when they go to the town. who carries if 2000 civilians die but save one of their soldier.
in war you dont have honour, if you have honour you dont attack a country for money and we all know war is about power and the rulers most of the tim dont send thier families to war.

[wxtornado]

Hey everyone, I just read the first post on this thread on how an american warship in the gulf got tagged, and its kinda funny because that same night I swam across the persian gulf and single handedly one of Iran Migs from its hanger...........seriously.......I did! I flew it home and its sitting in front of my appartment!


Actually, this is more believable than what Iran claims to have done :roflmao3:

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

Hey everyone, I just read the first post on this thread on how an american warship in the gulf got tagged, and its kinda funny because that same night I swam across the persian gulf and single handedly one of Iran Migs from its hanger...........seriously.......I did! I flew it home and its sitting in front of my appartment!OMG if it's on the internet it's gotta be true!
in war you dont have honour, if you have honour you dont attack a country for money and we all know war is about power and the rulers most of the tim dont send thier families to war.I agree. There is nothing honorable or romantic in slaughtering each other.

[AK54]

plz i am begging you tell me that this is a joke plzzz
you really did not mean that

a suicide attack is a men who dont carry about his life because he know that when he give away his life he might secure his familis life and many others.
tell me which honoerless when a soldier make suicide attack or when a pilot dropps bomb on civilians and he know that the enemy can fire at him as long he fly high or when americans bomb a city to stone age just for not lost a soldier when they go to the town. who carries if 2000 civilians die but save one of their soldier.

its still the suicide attack, sorry. you dont deserve to live if you'd rather blow yourself up outside of a hospital or market than do something constructive with your life.

you dont even have to compare them to soldiers, real insurgents have more honor than pathetic terrorist bombers.

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

you dont deserve to live if you'd rather blow yourself up outside of a hospital or market than do something constructive with your life.Do you get the idiocy of your statement? They CHOOSE not to live. Also, who said anything about blowing up outside of a hospital or market? We were talking about suicide tactics against military targets.
you dont even have to compare them to soldiers, real insurgents have more honor than pathetic terrorist bombers.There's no such thing as honor in war.

[AK54]

There's no such thing as honor in war.
you dont think fighting for your country or your family is honorable?

[Tbagger]

Do you get the idiocy of your statement? They CHOOSE not to live. Also, who said anything about blowing up outside of a hospital or market? We were talking about suicide tactics against military targets.There's no such thing as honor in war.
I call that Natural Selection in progress.

All the idiots get to kill themselves, thus they will not have offspring.

[korosh_kabir]

its still the suicide attack, sorry. you dont deserve to live if you'd rather blow yourself up outside of a hospital or market than do something constructive with your life.

you dont even have to compare them to soldiers, real insurgents have more honor than pathetic terrorist bombers.

first of all we were talking about military suicide attack and not bomb civillians market och hospital.
we had tousands of tousands of iranian who made suicide attacks in iraq and iran war, are they terrorist for you? i dont say that this is honour because in war you have no honor, it is just a duty that you have to do. i would kill and be ready to be killed if my country get attacked and i would never call it for honor just defence for everything i love.
there is more honor to say i dont want take a anothers men then fight bravely. if you want to have honor in war then you should not attack a enmey in ambush, you have to send him a email hey we would attack you in this time and give him a map which direction your soldier would be.

[korosh_kabir]

you dont think fighting for your country or your family is honorable?

it is a duety. if you say that when a man fight for his country that is honor then i have to ask you can you find any kind of honor in US forces.
because saddam were not planing to attack US or their family. did the vietnames attack usa? we have hundreds of hundreds of exampele
we can not forget hiroshima were is the honor in that.

[Ramziz93]

Heyyy..Why Does Every Thread Has to Get Out-Of-Topic... :frown3:

[AK54]

it is a duety. if you say that when a man fight for his country that is honor then i have to ask you can you find any kind of honor in US forces.
because saddam were not planing to attack US or their family. did the vietnames attack usa? we have hundreds of hundreds of exampele
we can not forget hiroshima were is the honor in that.where anywhere did i say who and who isnt honorable? ive never personally supported the 2003 iraq war.

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

you dont think fighting for your country or your family is honorable?When you're a character in a movie, yes. In real life, no.

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

I call that Natural Selection in progress.

All the idiots get to kill themselves, thus they will not have offspring.IDo you believe someone can have a genetic predisposition to go on suicide attacks. It's more of an ideological, memetic thing.

[Bella]

hey everybody,

sorry for being away for so long, but that got back from stealing another fighter..... guess what one? the Su-35!!!!! Yep, I have that one in front of my apartment too!

You don't believe me? .........Well it happend! I don't have video proof, but if it comes from me you know it's true!!!!

[Sith]

Heyyy..Why Does Every Thread Get's Out-Of-Topic... :frown3:

This will explain why (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/) :wub2:

[Ramziz93]

Flame Warriors..??..Lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..:roflmao3: :roflmao3:

[Jitterball]

hey that's some talent, I'd do some graffiti too where is that drone?

[SepahKhodah]

I call that Natural Selection in progress.

All the idiots get to kill themselves, thus they will not have offspring.

Very true. I guess President Bush is contributing to the evolution of the species by reducing the Orc gene pool by a count of 3,500+.

[Ramziz93]

Heyy You Know What Just Think it as The Iranians Are Urak-Khai and The Americans are The Orcs..Orcs Huh..?? Hyuk Hyuk..:roflmao3: :roflmao3:

[Iranian Guards]

Heyy You Know What Just Think it as The Iranians Are Urak-Khai and The Americans are The Orcs..Orcs Huh..?? Hyuk Hyuk..:roflmao3: :roflmao3:lol. what are you talking about?

[sacred defence]

stop posting this, unless we can see something to proove the claims, then show something tangible. Because it does a great dis-service to the men and women of the Iranian armed forces, irans military is capable of many things, but if we make up rumours and untrue stories, it makes them look like fools.

[crod]

any pics ever surface with this?

[JEskandari]

Very true. I guess President Bush is contributing to the evolution of the species by reducing the Orc gene pool by a count of 3,500+.

i think the reverse may be true the orc gene pool may increase by 3500+

[Persia4ever]

thats real awesome. but is there a vid?

[SuperSixOne]

This didn't happen, if it did CNN/NBC/FOX news would have a hay-day. You have to realize the american media is very critical of our own government and any negative things they can find, they will exploit to the fullest.

[AK54]

This didn't happen, if it did CNN/NBC/FOX news would have a hay-day. You have to realize the american media is very critical of our own government and any negative things they can find, they will exploit to the fullest.i can just imagine the news outlets drooling when they heard this

[Cedric]

i can just imagine the news outlets drooling when they heard this

The only news outlets that heard this is the IRanian state controlled media. The same media that even payam admitted was full of lies, see his quote below

Here medias tell lies about the insider things...i mean economic , improvments and things like this...



.

[payam]

why EVEN payam?im honest not fanatic
also copy the full text of me,not just some part
first of all about controling,yes they are controling and i never look at it as problem,i just said they show some improvmenst so greate sience they are not that much..........
the control of medias in a country like iran with all thouse super power enemies and thier monies is a right job,we dont want to let anybody create amercian organization here against the islamic republic

[SuperSixOne]

why EVEN payam?im honest not fanatic
also copy the full text of me,not just some part
first of all about controling,yes they are controling and i never look at it as problem,i just said they show some improvmenst so greate sience they are not that much..........
the control of medias in a country like iran with all thouse super power enemies and thier monies is a right job,we dont want to let anybody create amercian organization here against the islamic republic

Could sombody translate please?

No, I'm not kidding either...

[payam]

the sentences are ok,ur mind just is not letting u to understand
i said im not a fanatic guy,i think u know me as that,u are in wrong
also i was talking about some lies in medias and i siad this is what we have in all countries,i never talked about the control of medias
but yes,Ir is controlling medias,and we must do such things,we never want to let some puppets here do what the american gov wants to wash the people's brain against the regim and for thier own goals

[Persia4ever]

the guys of IRGC have really a great humour sense! :D

u now whats also funny... we put our logo on ur pansy warship that is said 2 be unstopable. funny for us, not funny for u. whos lafing now buddy. :roflmao3: :biggrin1:

[Persia4ever]

Could sombody translate please?

No, I'm not kidding either...

im sry i cannot translate english 2 english. BTW do americans go 2 school?:roflmao3: lol .

[rabs]

I'm sorry persian4ever but your post have the maturity of a 12 year old with a missing chromosome.

u now whats also funny... we put our logo on ur pansy warship that is said 2 be unstopable. funny for us, not funny for u. whos lafing now buddy.

I'm not sure whats more humorous, your complete and total belief in this situation with a complete and total absence of evidence, or your spelling of laughing.

[Ricardo]

Could sombody translate please?

No, I'm not kidding either...

He speaks Payamish a really weird lenguage in this planet.

u now whats also funny... we put our logo on ur pansy warship that is said 2 be unstopable. funny for us, not funny for u. whos lafing now buddy. :roflmao3: :biggrin1:

Al-Andalus is not american, i think you dont understand the point of his statement.

[dannytoro]

....When that planeload of IRG General's went down, do you think a B-2 was etching a USAF symbol on the IL-76 with the laser-lol......American sarcasm....