As-salaamu 'alaikum

[Sulayman]

As-salaamu 'alaikum. I am Sulayman, an Afghan brother who is interested in learning more about Iran and improving his Persian.

Mikhaastum beporsum ke cheraa Iraniaan wa Afghanaan az yeki dega nefrat daaran? Yak lesaan ra sobhat namekonem?

Man megoyum ke etefaaq baashem khoob ast... Ba nazar-e shomaa chee?

[spirit]

welcome man

[Alex]

hi and welcome to the forum

[payam]

As-salaamu 'alaikum. I am Sulayman, an Afghan brother who is interested in learning more about Iran and improving his Persian.

Mikhaastum beporsum ke cheraa Iraniaan wa Afghanaan az yeki dega nefrat daaran? Yak lesaan ra sobhat namekonem?

Man megoyum ke etefaaq baashem khoob ast... Ba nazar-e shomaa chee?

Hi brother how are u?WELCOME TO THE FORUM AND IM VERY HAPPY OF JOINING WITH US
i have a very long experiance in dealig with afghans in thier forums:D

Well actually iranian dont hate afghans.......
but there is some reasons here that both nation have no good idea about each other..i say in much brief
1-both nations dont know each other's society.....and cuase of some historical stories i would say later,britishs made the brain of both nations full of stupid things about each other...for ex nowadays in afghanistan they started writting books that are full anti iran...call 60% of iranian jewish blood!(cuase they know afghans hate jews so much lol):laugh4: and in thier books they try to say there is no persian exist and all thouse persian speakers are jews and basiclly they hate afghans:laugh4:
but about iranian
nowadays they are 3 million afghan in iran which they got millions job chance from iranian workers...iran must nearly spend 5 billion dollar for afghans for each year....and from all afghans just 1 thousand of them are illegal....
this is many years we accepted afghans with warm arms......but there is no taliban in afghaistan anymore...and also iran is not a super power rich country...we realy need thouse chances for own people
bUT ITS NOT THE CERTAIN REASON
afghans are good people....but many of afghans who came iran are some young single aghans...when they came here illegaly,so somtimes they let themself do illegal things too...acoarding to the texts nealy 1/3 of crimes of last year was done by afghans....we never say afghans are bad people...but some of afghans here do so many bad jobs(ofcource not all of them,some....but thouse some are enough to make iranian in wrong about afghans....cuase all believe that these are all afghans and believe me even for ex at the night some walk at the street and see some afghans he/she would scare so much of them..even me have some experiance ,they did a right job with my bag

so as u see the problem is undesrtanding each other.....iranian have wrong views of afghans and afghans also about iranian

i have hope in futuer with the improving of relation the and afghanistan improvmeenst the situation gets better..and it for sure is comming

just look at tajikestn,we have a very nice connection with them...and i have a deep hope to have like that with afghans.....

afghans are our brothers and we have thousands history with each other
also they are some turks there that i like them:laugh4:

[payam]

About the language.......both nearly are same....the problem is just accent....
dari is ancient kind of persian......here we have it in our school books..we call it classice literature....also in wrriting book,we wrrite in clssice...just in talking we use tehrani accent...
here they are many persian accent in iran:isfahani,yazdi,kermani,tehrani ects

we all use tehrani accent as the main one....just cuase of history(tehran was the capital of iran in the last hundred years)
so i think all persian speakers in the world must know tehrani accent(cuase majority persian speakers know it)....by this all accents can connect with each other better....
but also dari is so near to it ancient accent.......tehrani is just a branch of dari

[Sulayman]

Wow, thanks for your kinds words, payam... I think I know you from afghanforums... lol

Besyaar tashakor!

[Amir]

salam, khosh amadi baradar

[masguy]

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[Shahab-3]

Welcome and you are ok in my book as long as you don't support the Talibans (those are the only afghans that I hate)!:3eyes4:

[payam]

Wow, thanks for your kinds words, payam... I think I know you from afghanforums... lol

Besyaar tashakor!

LOL i know u from there too:laugh4: ....i think i said these all in there too:roflmao3:

[payam]

By the way sulayman,here amir (ameer) is the most perfessional...cuase he lived in a tajik locality for years.....he know dari so good:):D

[Good Guy 2]

welcome afghan friend
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[KRAZYHORSE3480350]

Welcome :)

[Sulayman]

Mikhaastum beporsum ke cheraa Iraniaan wa Afghanaan az yeki dega nefrat daaran? Yak lesaan ra sobhat namekonem?

Man megoyum ke etefaaq baashem khoob ast... Ba nazar-e shomaa chee?

Hameen cheez-ha ra ke goftam, kull-ash ra shomaa faamedeen ya sakht bood?

Lahje-eh maa nazdeeq ast ya besyaar mukhtalif?

Tashakor az eenke maro jawaab daaden. Inshallah saat-am enja ter mebasha (lol)


Translation of everything I've said thus far:

I wanted to ask, why do Iranians and Afghans hate each other? Don't we speak the same language?

I say that we remain united...What are your opinions?

These things that I've said, did you guys understand all of it or was it hard?

Are our dialects close or very different? Thanks that I've received replies. I hope I have fun here.

[Sulayman]

salam, khosh amadi baradar

Tashakor. Zinda bashen.

Payam maro goft ke zabaan-e shoma ba Dari rawaan ast. Man megum, khoob. Yak dost ra wakht paida kardam, lol.

*offers friendly handshake*

[Indonesiana]

Salaam,

Welcome, my Afghan friend. BTW, are you Pashtun by birth? Just asking...

[Sulayman]

Wasalaam.

No, I am full Tajik.

[Iranian Guards]

Mikhaastum beporsum ke cheraa Iraniaan wa Afghanaan az yeki dega nefrat daaran? Yak lesaan ra sobhat namekonem?

Man megoyum ke etefaaq baashem khoob ast... Ba nazar-e shomaa chee?

Hameen cheez-ha ra ke goftam, kull-ash ra shomaa faamedeen ya sakht bood?

Lahje-eh maa nazdeeq ast ya besyaar mukhtalif?

Tashakor az eenke maro jawaab daaden. Inshallah saat-am enja ter mebasha (lol)


Translation of everything I've said thus far:

I wanted to ask, why do Iranians and Afghans hate each other? Don't we speak the same language?

I say that we remain united...What are your opinions?

These things that I've said, did you guys understand all of it or was it hard?

Are our dialects close or very different? Thanks that I've received replies. I hope I have fun here. afganistanand iran are 1 nation.

[payam]

Mikhaastum beporsum ke cheraa Iraniaan wa Afghanaan az yeki dega nefrat daaran? Yak lesaan ra sobhat namekonem?

Man megoyum ke etefaaq baashem khoob ast... Ba nazar-e shomaa chee?

Hameen cheez-ha ra ke goftam, kull-ash ra shomaa faamedeen ya sakht bood?

Lahje-eh maa nazdeeq ast ya besyaar mukhtalif?

Tashakor az eenke maro jawaab daaden. Inshallah saat-am enja ter mebasha (lol)


Translation of everything I've said thus far:

I wanted to ask, why do Iranians and Afghans hate each other? Don't we speak the same language?

I say that we remain united...What are your opinions?

These things that I've said, did you guys understand all of it or was it hard?

Are our dialects close or very different? Thanks that I've received replies. I hope I have fun here.



yes me myself got all u said in dari:)
and being united IN LAND is good,but it's impossible in the reality...even if the people want it.....cuase u know the problem here is the power...for ex the governemnts in afghanistan never want to loos the power,also in iran....
anyway nowadays being united is not having 1 country....it's being the alliance of each other....Just look at the europ.....alot of countries even with diffrent lanuages could do that.....afghanistan is one of the most near nation in middeast to iran...cuase of having same language.....so it could be possible,improving the connection in all cases
aNd also as i said befor we never hate afghan people...i dont know who u talked with...but as i said and from what i see iranian have nothing wrong to afghans.....
BTW:join the topics in the forums brother....:smile1: and talk about them.....its a pleasure having u in them
by the way first read the rules....wrriting in farsi or any non english language is agaisnt the law....jsut in here u can do it:http://www.irandefence.net/forumdisplay.php?f=91 (non english forum)

[payam]

But dari seems to me like a poem..very cool:):D
when we wrrite in books we do it in ur type: hale man khob ast
but when we talk we say like this: halam khobe (e=ast) (lam=e man):D...it makes the talk more short and easy
we call it mohavere.....when we want to talk to each other we use mohavere language...and when we want to wrrite in books and read news in tv and ects we use the classice kind of it which is like ur talking.......