Iran to Test Fire Home Made Missile

[Janbaz]

Iran to Test Fire Home Made Missile
TEHRAN (Fars News Agency)- Commander of the Islamic Republic navy said that his troops are due to test a missile with a range of over 150 km in the sea.

http://media.farsnews.net/Media/8508/Images/jpg/A0238/A0238115.jpg
Speaking to Iran's state-run TV on Wednesday, Rear Admiral Sajjad Kouchaki further stated that the Iranian navy intends to increase its subsurface power, and continued, "If Iran possesses 50 submarines, it will find a good grip of the Persian Gulf and the Sea of Oman."

He also said that the mighty presence of the Iranian navy in the Persian Gulf, the Sea of Oman and north of Indian Ocean is tangible for the regional and trans-regional countries, adding that the navy force is striving to reinvigorate its subsurface forces.

Saying that Iran owns the most powerful navy in the Middle-East region, the commander reminded that 90 to 95 percent of the equipment and weapons needed by the navy are designed and manufactured through home-made technology and by the Iranian experts.

He further pointed to the production of dual-purpose torpedoes and test firing of a fast radar-evading missile as among other achievements of the Iranian navy, adding that during future war games, an optimized missile with a range of over 150 km will be test fired.

The Admiral also reminded that the said missile will increase Iran's missile capability and defensive power.


http://english.farsnews.ir/newstext.php?nn=8601310195

[Alex]

so is this a new missile based on iranian design or is a reverse-engineered one. in the article it says, an optimized missile with a range of over 150 km will be test fired. so does that mean that they have taken a chineese or russian missile and optimized it?

[Kiaar]

If America had super advanced laser technology they would rule the Persian Gulf too.

[SuperSixOne]

Actually we do, it is still in the testing phase,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQKuVaV6hwI

It is still pretty well guarded, nobody knows a whole lot about it (that's why they censored the lense) but you can get a pretty good look at it during it's first movment

[Kiaar]

Actually we do, it is still in the testing phase,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQKuVaV6hwI

It is still pretty well guarded, nobody knows a whole lot about it (that's why they censored the lense) but you can get a pretty good look at it during it's first movment

Yeah, but we don't have 'em yet, not at combat levels anyway.

[SuperSixOne]

No, it's capeable of combat, from what I understand it requires massive recharging periods just like a rail gun and they are trying to shorten the time between shots.

[SuperSixOne]

The ABL weapon system consists of a high-energy, chemical oxygen iodine laser (COIL) mounted on a modified 747-400F (freighter) aircraft to shoot down theater ballistic missiles in their boost phase. A crew of four, including pilot and copilot, would be required to operate the airborne laser, which would patrol in pairs at high altitude, about 40,000 feet, flying in orbits over friendly territory, scanning the horizon for the plumes of rising missiles. Capable of autonomous operation, the ABL would acquire and track missiles in the boost phase of flight, illuminating the missile with a tracking laser beam while computers measure the distance and calculate its course and direction. After acquiring and locking onto the target, a second laser - with weapons-class strength - would fire a three- to five-second burst from a turret located in the 747's nose, destroying the missiles over the launch area.

ALittle insight

[Kiaar]

No, it's capeable of combat, from what I understand it requires massive recharging periods just like a rail gun and they are trying to shorten the time between shots.

Ah, I hadn't heard that. Pretty cool. The railguns seem pretty powerful too.

[jawwal]

These laser systems are based on the Regan star wars program against the russian missiles, which was cancelled because it was too expensive and not reliable. Some programs kept going though to use it from modified passenger planes, this weapon is almost useless in bad weahter and would be even more useless if the missiles were coated with a reflecting type of paint...I believe such idea of reflecting coating been understudy in Russia for some time.

[Kiaar]

These laser systems are based on the Regan star wars program against the russian missiles, which was cancelled because it was too expensive and not reliable. Some programs kept going though to use it from modified passenger planes, this weapon is almost useless in bad weahter and would be even more useless if the missiles were coated with a reflecting type of paint...I believe such idea of reflecting coating been understudy in Russia for some time.

It's important to realize though that technology and understanding of such technologies has advanced considerably since then as well.

[mustavaris]

That's a point commonly stated on this forum.

Anyone possessing 50 submarines could "own" the persian gulf.. anyone with 100 would own a lot more...

[NEWUSER]

It is still pretty well guarded, nobody knows a whole lot about it (that's why they censored the lense) but you can get a pretty good look at it during it's first movment

http://www.lockheedmartin.com/data/assets/8059.jpg

see it in large scale here (http://www.lockheedmartin.com/data/assets/8058.gif)

http://www.lockheedmartin.com/data/assets/4485.jpg

http://www.lockheedmartin.com/data/assets/8060.jpg

It's very costly and the chances of this being deployed in large scale is highly unlikely...

This same system influenced the design of a weapon that target objects in the sky from the ground, automatically, by using heat-wave laser, it fires a heat wave that overheats and destroy target, and anything else, like birds and clouds. Results delivered the project to a shut down; was very promising like this one.

Also it's worth mentioning that this is not new....

[me.VS.zionist]

Heeeeeeeeey My Country Iraaaaaaaaaan Go And ***** U.s.a :d

[Kiaar]

Heeeeeeeeey My Country Iraaaaaaaaaan Go And ***** U.s.a :d

Sweet post.

Definitely the best, most informative, smartest one in this thread!

[SuperSixOne]

These laser systems are based on the Regan star wars program against the russian missiles, which was cancelled because it was too expensive and not reliable. Some programs kept going though to use it from modified passenger planes, this weapon is almost useless in bad weahter and would be even more useless if the missiles were coated with a reflecting type of paint...I believe such idea of reflecting coating been understudy in Russia for some time.

Where are you getting this info? None of it is correct. The entire program has been very cheap so far, only about 1.4billion The reflective paint would cause it to heat up even faster as turning around energy takes alot more energy than absorbing it and energy = heat. Weather Dosn't effect it as it's a Chemical Arc Laser and operates at higher frequencies than light it'self.

Modification of the aircraft, involving installation of the turret in the aircraft's nose and modifications to accept the laser, optics and computer hardware, was completed in May 2002. In July 2002, the modified aircraft took the first of a series of test flights. After receiving airworthiness certification, the aircraft was flown to Edwards Air Force Base, California, in December 2002, for the installation of systems. The aircraft returned to airworthiness flight testing in December 2004 following installation of the beam control / fire control system. In November 2004, all six modules of the COIL laser were successfully fired for the first time. In August 2005, the ABL completed a series of flight tests demonstrating the performance of the beam and flight control systems. The COIL laser is to be installed in early 2006. The first prototype is scheduled for completion in 2006. A second system is being considered for 2008.

They have allready planned building a second system with 4x the power.

and they are very happy with it;
In 1996, the Department of Defense awarded Team ABL a $1.1 billion Program Definition and Risk Reduction (PDRR) contract for the development and test of an Airborne Laser weapon system. During tests at TRW's Capistrano Test Site in 1998, the laser demonstration module achieved a power level 10% higher than the requirement. In April 2000 the ABL final critical design review was completed.

Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman are working on a fighter bourne version for defending fighters from A2A and SAM's

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/abl/images/abl4.jpg

http://www.missilesandfirecontrol.com/our_products/combatvision/ABL/images/pic-product-abl.jpg

Boeing is acctually working on a ground attack version;

http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/abl/description/images/illuminator_n.jpg

http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/abl/description/images/beam_n.jpg

http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/abl/description/images/advd_resonator_n.jpg

Battlefield Managment;

http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/abl/description/images/battlemgmt_n.jpg

Surveillance and tracking
Launch and impact point predictions
Theater interoperability and communications
Target detection, identification, prioritization, and nomination
Modular console construction
Extensive use of commercial hardware
Standard voice and secure data links (Link 16/TIBS) to theater assets
Open systems-based software architecture
Kill assessment


So if you are going to make up BS info, please leave it out of here. We know what we are talking about...

[Kiaar]

Where are you getting this info? None of it is correct. The entire program has been very cheap so far, only about 1.4billion The reflective paint would cause it to heat up even faster as turning around energy takes alot more energy than absorbing it and energy = heat. Weather Dosn't effect it as it's a Chemical Arc Laser and operates at higher frequencies than light it'self.


Sir, you win this thread in my mind.

[NEWUSER]

Where are you getting this info? None of it is correct. The entire program has been very cheap so far, only about 1.4billion

Is that in response to my post? $1.4 billion dollar?

[Kiaar]

Is that in response to my post? $1.4 billion dollar?

Actually he was responding to Jawwal.

[Janbaz]

I strongly belive if US had this Awsom weapon ready and field tested, Bush would of attacked Iran in early 2006.

[jawwal]

Anyone possessing 50 submarines could "own" the persian gulf.. anyone with 100 would own a lot more...

The logical assumption out of his mention of 50 submarines force is the desire to achieve such level of force, probably mostly the small types of submarines Iran producing at the moment.

[jawwal]

Where are you getting this info? None of it is correct. The entire program has been very cheap so far, only about 1.4billion The reflective paint would cause it to heat up even faster as turning around energy takes alot more energy than absorbing it and energy = heat. Weather Dosn't effect it as it's a Chemical Arc Laser and operates at higher frequencies than light it'self.



They have allready planned building a second system with 4x the power.

and they are very happy with it;


Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman are working on a fighter bourne version for defending fighters from A2A and SAM's

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/abl/images/abl4.jpg

http://www.missilesandfirecontrol.com/our_products/combatvision/ABL/images/pic-product-abl.jpg

Boeing is acctually working on a ground attack version;

http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/abl/description/images/illuminator_n.jpg

http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/abl/description/images/beam_n.jpg

http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/abl/description/images/advd_resonator_n.jpg

Battlefield Managment;

http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/abl/description/images/battlemgmt_n.jpg




So if you are going to make up BS info, please leave it out of here. We know what we are talking about...

Many,many sources actually...

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/research_tools/42202
http://www.fpif.org/briefs/vol4/v4n24star.html

[mustavaris]

The logical assumption out of his mention of 50 submarines force is the desire to achieve such level of force, probably mostly the small types of submarines Iran producing at the moment.

Yes, I know. But the desire isnt equal with ability. Many people desire a lot but achieve remarkably less.

[Kiaar]

Yes, I know. But the desire isnt equal with ability. Many people desire a lot but achieve remarkably less.

I agree with this. Saying "If Iran had 50 subs they would rule the Persian Gulf" is just stupid. If America had 100 aircraft carriers all fully manned and stocked with super strong defenses, they would rule the oceans of the world.

Saying "Well, if this and this happen, something else will happen" is stupid.

[SuperSixOne]

Many,many sources actually...

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/research_tools/42202
http://www.fpif.org/briefs/vol4/v4n24star.html

compare your souces with mine;

http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/abl/index.html

Capabilities:
Operates autonomously, above the clouds, outside the range of threat weapons but sufficiently close to enemy territory
Engages early, destroying ballistic missiles in their boost phase of flight over launch area
Cues and tracks targets, communicating with other joint theater assets for layered defense system
Unique Technology:
Nose-mounted turret with 1.5m telescope that focuses beams on missile and collects return image and signals
Beam Control System to acquire and track targets with precision accuracy

http://www.st.northropgrumman.com/capabilities/missile_defense/abl.html

http://www.st.northropgrumman.com/capabilities/SiteFiles/articleimages/1221.jpg

http://www.st.northropgrumman.com/capabilities/missile_defense/thel.html

The Threat Stops Here
Air defense threats are a serious problem. The growing list of proliferating threats includes short range rockets, artillery projectiles, ballistic missiles, UAVs, air-to-ground munitions, and cruise missiles.

Countering short range and late-detection threats with confidence requires a terminal defense system that is fast, accurate and capable of close-in kills with no collateral damage to friendly assets. It requires a weapon that can engage and kill threats with high kill probability and a deep magazine that is easy to reload and therefore can fire almost continuously.

It demands the speed-of-light defense of a laser.
The Tactical High Energy Laser Advanced Concept Technology Demonstrator (THEL ACTD) was designed and built by a Northrop Grumman-led team for the U.S. Army Space & Missile Defense Command and the Israel Ministry of Defence. Now being used as the THEL (THEL) Test Bed, THEL has been proving laser defense system capability since June 2000, when it began shooting down Katyusha rockets singly and in salvos.





http://www.lockheedmartin.com/wms/findPage.do?dsp=fec&ci=11457&sc=400

[dannytoro]

....That's just the ABL, there's also MTHEL and ATL. MTHEL is a shipborne or landbased laser that's already demonstrated hitting multiples of large rockets,sea skimming missles,katuska's,152mm shells and 82mm motar coming from differing directions at the same time. Then there's fixed wing ATL, which is a scaled down ABL system, that neverthless lase a 2 city block area into flames a few dozen times due to decreased power input and increased optics. It's also engaged aircraft successfully. It's gone missing from the Elgin test area and is thought to have been placed in a B-2.......It's also much cheaper then ABL due to reduced power required.....apparently this and the COIL unit share many common components.....

[jawwal]

Yes, I know. But the desire isnt equal with ability. Many people desire a lot but achieve remarkably less.

That is correct in many cases, but inspecting the military programs of Iran and the vast improvement it made, the huge resources of iran, the highly skilled scientists, and most important of all their desire to achieve a strong army to repel any futuristic attack that surely to happen one day sooner or later..It is not going to be easy for sure, probably a ten years program.

[jawwal]

compare your souces with mine;

http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/abl/index.html



http://www.st.northropgrumman.com/capabilities/missile_defense/abl.html

http://www.st.northropgrumman.com/capabilities/SiteFiles/articleimages/1221.jpg

http://www.st.northropgrumman.com/capabilities/missile_defense/thel.html



http://www.lockheedmartin.com/wms/findPage.do?dsp=fec&ci=11457&sc=400

Have u ever heard of a manufacturer provide a negative information about his products? If u go through the military spending towards these companies u would see the huge profits they make through out their reserches, mostly into individual pockets, shareholders and the like..
These weapons could turn out to be effective and valuable, but so far no evidence of that to support that, but if the money kept on pouring into it eventually it will work out if no one cares about the cost and the implication of setting the russian on a highly advanced missiles production trend to counter such advantage, which they are doing at the moment with their recent new missiles..

[SuperSixOne]

Have u ever heard of a manufacturer provide a negative information about his products? If u go through the military spending towards these companies u would see the huge profits they make through out their reserches, mostly into individual pockets, shareholders and the like..
These weapons could turn out to be effective and valuable, but so far no evidence of that to support that, but if the money kept on pouring into it eventually it will work out if no one cares about the cost and the implication of setting the russian on a highly advanced missiles production trend to counter such advantage, which they are doing at the moment with their recent new missiles..

Are you Blind? First off, In the united states companys must provide truthful info about their products or someone will come along and sue them off their rocker for false advertising.

And, it has also been proven successful;

During tests at TRW's Capistrano Test Site in 1998, the laser demonstration module achieved a power level 10% higher than the requirement.

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/abl/

a fleet of seven ABLs should be flying operational missions by 2008.


If you don't understand this, please don't comment like you do, it is a waste of our time correcting you.

[Cedric]

useless if the missiles were coated with a reflecting type of paint...I believe such idea of reflecting coating been understudy in Russia for some time.

Reflective paint will do nothing to stop these lasers. They are not true lasers. LASER stands for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emmissions of Radiation. They project photons.

The US military "lasers" are more like particle cannons as they use a chemical such flourine iodine. The weapons process includes stripping the chemical of its electrons and projecting the electrons forward......BOOOM! target destroyed.



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[Kiaar]

Reflective paint will do nothing to stop these lasers. They are not true lasers. LASER stands for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emmissions of Radiation. They project photons.

The US military "lasers" are more like particle cannons as they use a chemical such flourine iodine. The weapons process includes stripping the chemical of its electrons and projecting the electrons forward......BOOOM! target destroyed.



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In easy to understand terms, reflective surfaces reflect light waves. These lasers don't use light waves. Think of them more as cannons than lasers. They fire mass, not energy. The energy is just used to project the mass but doesn't do the actual damage.