Iran's Guerilla Fleet

[Highsky]

The maritime wing of the Revolutionary Guard Corps
26Feb2006
In addition to a modest number of seagoing warships, including submarines, frigates, and large patrol vessels, as well a some amphibious ships and mine warfare vessels, the Iranian Navy, and the maritime wing of the Revolutionary Guard Corps, owns a substantial number small vessels. Not just the "official" small craft, but lots and lots of small boats that regularly carry guys with guns. No official numbers are given, but it appears that the Iranians have several thousand such small craft. These range in size from 23 foot long, motorized "Boston whalers," up to 65 feet long, 28-ton MIG-G-1900 patrol boats, with a few old American "Swift" boats thrown in.

These vessels are armed in various ways. The tiniest craft usually carry small arms, and personnel aboard have been observed wielding hand-held anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons. The larger ones usually have heavy machine guns and light cannon. Many of these boats are fast, some able to make as much as 60 kilometers an hour. These craft are ideally suited to "guerrilla warfare at sea" in the constrained waters of the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman, particularly since major navies lack much capability to oppose "swarm" attacks by large numbers of fast surface craft.

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsurf/articles/20060226.aspx

[seraosha]

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8743/irannavy0lw.jpg

[Pure_sunni]

[quote=seraosha]http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8743/irannavy0lw.jpg
LOL

[seraosha]

Thanks for getting the joke, I certainly don't mean any disrespect to the Iranian Navy, but as soon as I read the blurb, I had to pull out this old pic.

[mo*]

that dude looks funny with that toy he's riding on...but don't laugh he could disasterous.

[Musa a.s.]

Thanks for getting the joke, I certainly don't mean any disrespect to the Iranian Navy, but as soon as I read the blurb, I had to pull out this old pic.
Dude, you got me laughing like I've seen a Dave Chapelle clip!
Even though mo* is right.
http://www.irandefence.net/showthread.php?t=445&highlight=Iran-Iraq

[seraosha]

well if we are going to seriously consider the pc...

That .50 cal would sink it with any sustained fire, much less that silly motor in the back wouldn't get him very far.

Firing my .50 cal on the hummer back in the day, would rock the vehicle back FEET...not to mention the inability of the gunner to move/shoot/control the vehicle.

[AK-101]

that picture was photoshoped, it originally had canadian flags on it. here is a canandian cruise missile.

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

LOL to both of them

[seraosha]

Canadian airforce
http://www.code7r.org/Bintoons/canadian_af.jpg

[AK-101]

ROFLMAO o man thats classic.

[Arman]

you could do some crazy damage with the weapon on that boat...

[seraosha]

you could do some crazy damage with the weapon on that boat...

After the third shot you would be sinking with it.

[MSS'S]

Depending on the bouancy of the craft, but you are right, it wouldn't be stable at all. I'm taking Yacht Design.

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

ROFLMAO o man thats classic.

True, reminds me of "Operation Human Shield" in the South Park movie.

[Highsky]

After the third shot you would be sinking with it.

they are a couple of1000 suicide boats ,and that means if a ship get attacked by 200-300 of the boats the ship have no chance to defend self because it's impposible to hit somuch boats(actullay bombs) at the same time.

[Snauhi]

they are a couple of1000 suicide boats ,and that means if a ship get attacked by 200-300 of the boats the ship have no chance to defend self because it's impposible to hit somuch boats(actullay bombs) at the same time.
'....

How the .. will they start going against that ship all at one time..

[korosh_kabir]

they are a couple of1000 suicide boats ,and that means if a ship get attacked by 200-300 of the boats the ship have no chance to defend self because it's impposible to hit somuch boats(actullay bombs) at the same time.
i saw a program in tv channel avatne
and the captan of a usa fleet said that the most dangeorous for our navy is fast boat who come towards ous with bomb. it is very diffucullt to ht them all.

[Highsky]

'....

How the .. will they start going against that ship all at one time..

How ?? that's a good quastion. i said before too "War is full of surprises"
so it's better no one begin a war.
we did in last millitary maneuver such exercise. if a ship get attacked by 20 fast boats with RPG's and other weapon then he wants to retaliate so they will hit them, but if they get attacked by 100 fast boats how could they hit back?
That's why i say never count of great and modern weapon , ofcourse they are usefull but we saw in the war with iRAQ that we can hurt the enmy with not so special weapons.
IRGC has more then 4000 fast boats ready fo such action in Persian Gulf.

[Highsky]

i saw a program in tv channel avatne
and the captan of a usa fleet said that the most dangeorous for our navy is fast boat who come towards ous with bomb. it is very diffucullt to ht them all.

yes we call that "Jange namonazam" or Guerilla war( in sea) .

[user0000]

Mesle hamoon Amaliaate Shahaadat, dige, jenabe High Sky? :)

[korosh_kabir]

Mesle hamoon Amaliaate Shahaadat, dige, jenabe High Sky? :)
issa jan can tou tell more about this ammaliat for me?

[user0000]

Korosh jan,

It was late in the war, when the US Navy was increasing is pressence in Khalije Fars. They had 6 warships in the Gulf at the start of war. They would increase that number to 30 by 1988. Iranian Navy operated with impunity for almost the entire war (Iraqi Navy was destroyed in a matter of weeks by Colonel Shahid Abbas Dowran early in the war). US intervention changed this, and took away Iranian control of the Gulf.

This is when Sepah Navy was founded. They used small gun boats (similar to the ones used in Operation Kheibar) in large numbers. Martyrdom Operation was when they tried to ram boats filled with explosives into American warships.

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

Martyrdom Operation was when they tried to ram boats filled with explosives into American warships.

Did this work?

The Iranians used small armed boats to move into the swampy regions in southern Iraq aswell, didn't they?

[korosh_kabir]

Korosh jan,

It was late in the war, when the US Navy was increasing is pressence in Khalije Fars. They had 6 warships in the Gulf at the start of war. They would increase that number to 30 by 1988. Iranian Navy operated with impunity for almost the entire war (Iraqi Navy was destroyed in a matter of weeks by Colonel Shahid Abbas Dowran early in the war). US intervention changed this, and took away Iranian control of the Gulf.

This is when Sepah Navy was founded. They used small gun boats (similar to the ones used in Operation Kheibar) in large numbers. Martyrdom Operation was when they tried to ram boats filled with explosives into American warships.
thanks for the info :) as mohammar ask did it work?

[user0000]

@Mohmar
Yes. Those were used in Operation Kheiber: the Struggle for the Liberation of Majnoon Islands
They were very successful in the marshlands. The Ba'athist Generals were utter dumbasses, sending tanks to marshes. They were sitting ducks for our gunboats.

@Korosh
Unfortunately, Korosh jan, no. It did not work.

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

@Mohmar
Yes. Those were used in Operation Kheiber: the Struggle for the Liberation of Majnoon Islands
They were very successful in the marshlands. The Ba'athist Generals were utter dumbasses, sending tanks to marshes. They were sitting ducks for our gunboats.


I'm not sure they were that dumb. Their main problem was that whenever they tried to implement some new tactic they came up with, Saddam had them executed.

[user0000]

Yes, the primary source of stupudity came from Saddam, who insisted upon sending tanks to mountains and marshes! And on bombing runways, when the bombs Iraqi fighters were equipped with were physically unable to do any damage to Iranian runways. Often times, an Iraqi pilot, would pass the chance at shooting down F-4s in their take-off process, only to be shot down by those very same F-4s! Still, on a more regional level, such things could have been avoided.

[Highsky]

Mesle hamoon Amaliaate Shahaadat, dige, jenabe High Sky? :)
basicly yes , but the tactic has been changed.because they will be carry missiles.

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

Yes, the primary source of stupudity came from Saddam, who insisted upon sending tanks to mountains and marshes! And on bombing runways, when the bombs Iraqi fighters were equipped with were physically unable to do any damage to Iranian runways. Often times, an Iraqi pilot, would pass the chance at shooting down F-4s in their take-off process, only to be shot down by those very same F-4s! Still, on a more regional level, such things could have been avoided.

Also, hadn't Iran recently upgraded their hangar-armor so that even if the Iraqi aircraft bombed them, the damage to the aircraft within was minimal?

[user0000]

Indeed. As hard as it is to believe, only one aircraft in all of Mehrabad was seriously damaged, and it was repaired in a matter of weeks.

[Arash_Sweden]

i not 100% sure, but i think that iran purchase there boats from sweden. sweden got some heat for that.....
question:
is it possible to fet a singel torpedo in these littel but fast boats.

[korosh_kabir]

i not 100% sure, but i think that iran purchase there boats from sweden. sweden got some heat for that.....
question:
is it possible to fet a singel torpedo in these littel but fast boats.
that is true iran buy them from sweden during olof palme.

[Gonjeeshk]

You forget, Pasdaran navy also has a fleet air arm called IRGC Navy Aviation. Equipped with helicopters.

[Arash_Sweden]

i have a movie called "the century of warfare" in this movie there is a clip of Pasdaran in the swedish speedboats. This speedboat´s where equipped MLR´s "the littel ones" i dont know what they called.
Any way the are train, shooting at a sunken supertanker....
i dont have a vcr, so cant shareit with u guys. im gona buy a vcr just so that i can share it with my fellow iranian brothers

[hammerfast]

. im gona buy a vcr just so that i can share it with my fellow iranian brothers
wow :eek:
how s it going in sweden ?

[Arash_Sweden]

is cold as a Mother F#"ker... -18 :(
and we have the madcow disease :D i the counter and also the birdinfluenza...

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

The mad cow and bird flu are a figment of the pharmaceutical industry to receive funding from the state, i.e. taxpayers. :(

Okay, so they're real, but nowhere near as dangerous as the media scoop suggests. ****loads of people die of all sorts of other diseases each day.

[Arash_Sweden]

The mad cow and bird flu are a figment of the pharmaceutical industry to receive funding from the state, i.e. taxpayers. :(

Okay, so they're real, but nowhere near as dangerous as the media scoop suggests. ****loads of people die of all sorts of other diseases each day.


i agree...
in the last 10 years "only" 100 people has die by the bird flu.... that means 10kills/year...
now compare it with ADIS oR TBC.... which is in the miljons

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

Exactly! I think AIDS may have been overblown aswell actually, but I'm not that sure. Certainly not as much as BSE and bird flu.

[Pure_sunni]

That boat isnt even Iranian some one has put flags on it

[Arash_Sweden]

That boat isnt even Iranian some one has put flags on it

:D ... really i thougt is was the back bone of the iranian navy..... driver lite med dig bara.........

[Pure_sunni]

Yeah but it was for all of those people who dint understand the joke

[korosh_kabir]

arash i know that you was from sweden but i din not know you sunii was to from sweden.

[Arashi]

Ooo, a gathering of Swedes! Hej! :p

[korosh_kabir]

Ooo, a gathering of Swedes! Hej! :p
hhahaa you tooo nice hej på dig med :)

[Arash_Sweden]

hahaha.....guys! which city are u from....
and what do u do on the days... vad gör ni om dagarna?????? :confused:

[Pure_sunni]

hahah hälsningar från Norrköping .. själv så går man i skolan går i 9an men efter sommaren får det bli företagande i gymnasiet :)