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amir_behbahani
06-21-2007, 08:24 PM
Deer member mustavaris who thinks of a glorious ancient viking civilization with its capital in atlantis that got colonized by pakistani cab drivers

According to Norse mythology, Odin hanged himself from the world-tree Yggdrasil for nine nights to attain divine wisdom. Medieval Christian sources refer to Norsemen sacrificing prisoners by hanging them from trees, but the true extent of this behavior is unclear.

Norse warriors were sometimes buried with enslaved women with the belief that these women would become their wives in Valhalla. A detailed eyewitness account of such a burial was given by Ahmad ibn Fadlan as part of his account of an embassy to the Volga Bulgars in 921. In his description of the funeral of a Scandinavian chieftain, a slave volunteers to die with a Norseman. After ten days of festivities, she is stabbed to death by an old woman, a sort of priestess who is referred to as Völva or "Angel of Death", and burnt together with the deceased in his boat:


Adam von Bremen recorded human sacrifices to Odin in 11th century Sweden, at the Temple at Uppsala, a tradition which is confirmed by Gesta Danorum and the Norse sagas. According to the Ynglinga saga, king Domalde was sacrificed there in the hope to bring greater future harvests and the total domination of all future wars. The same saga also relates that Domalde's descendant king Aun sacrificed nine of his own sons to Odin in exchange for longer life, until the Swedes stopped him from sacrificing his last son, Egil.

Heidrek in the Hervarar saga agrees to the sacrifice of his son in exchange for the command over a fourth of the men of Reidgotaland. With these, he seizes the entire kingdom and prevents the sacrifice of his son, dedicating those fallen in his rebellion to Odin instead.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Larsson_Midvinterblot_detail.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacrifice#Viking_Age_sacrifice

skampa
06-21-2007, 09:17 PM
Deer member mustavaris who thinks of a glorious ancient viking civilization with its capital in atlantis that got colonized by pakistani cab drivers

According to Norse mythology, Odin hanged himself from the world-tree Yggdrasil for nine nights to attain divine wisdom. Medieval Christian sources refer to Norsemen sacrificing prisoners by hanging them from trees, but the true extent of this behavior is unclear.

Norse warriors were sometimes buried with enslaved women with the belief that these women would become their wives in Valhalla. A detailed eyewitness account of such a burial was given by Ahmad ibn Fadlan as part of his account of an embassy to the Volga Bulgars in 921. In his description of the funeral of a Scandinavian chieftain, a slave volunteers to die with a Norseman. After ten days of festivities, she is stabbed to death by an old woman, a sort of priestess who is referred to as Völva or "Angel of Death", and burnt together with the deceased in his boat:


Adam von Bremen recorded human sacrifices to Odin in 11th century Sweden, at the Temple at Uppsala, a tradition which is confirmed by Gesta Danorum and the Norse sagas. According to the Ynglinga saga, king Domalde was sacrificed there in the hope to bring greater future harvests and the total domination of all future wars. The same saga also relates that Domalde's descendant king Aun sacrificed nine of his own sons to Odin in exchange for longer life, until the Swedes stopped him from sacrificing his last son, Egil.

Heidrek in the Hervarar saga agrees to the sacrifice of his son in exchange for the command over a fourth of the men of Reidgotaland. With these, he seizes the entire kingdom and prevents the sacrifice of his son, dedicating those fallen in his rebellion to Odin instead.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Larsson_Midvinterblot_detail.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacrifice#Viking_Age_sacrifice

Well Valhalla was heaven and at least they believed that those women went to haven after being sacrificed. And it was a long time ago, but at least they did not hang teenage girls for defending themselves and believe that they will go to hell like some modern countries.

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=5183

dogukan
06-22-2007, 03:07 AM
If I'm not mistaken this kind of stuff happened on todays Russian soil, as I know it wasn't that way in Sweden and Norway

dogukan
06-22-2007, 03:10 AM
Actually viking society was pretty interesting, they've had very brutal ways but at about things like woman rights they were better than todays Islamic countries
To say whether these guys were barbarian or not we should know what "barbarian" (I mean thw whole definition).As I know they were barbarian people but if they weren't Huns weren't either

amir_behbahani
06-22-2007, 05:54 PM
Apparently before these wives were burnt to heaven they would say this out loud :

'LoL, I can see my father!
'LoL, I can see my mother, and my sisters, and my brothers!
'LoL, I can see the line of my people back to the beginning!
'LoL, they call to me, they bid me take my place among them!
In the halls of Valhalla, where the brave may live forever

mustavaris
06-26-2007, 11:37 AM
What should I say.

Well. Not much, as what Amir himself wrote was nonsense and he still misquotes me even though I gave him private comment on that.

A few words..

The mythology is mythology, and the Odinns sacrifice is as essential as Christian ritual cannibalism and blood drinking.

The human sacrifices of Norsemen are pretty well known and they did happen.
In any case, the human sacrifices were limited to very serious occasions and were not regular (like among Celts and Aztects for example). What does that prove anyway?

Today´s religions still envoke the sacrifices in a way or other, some promise heavenly joys for self-sacrifice, some believers call their god when they cut the throat of an animal or an unbeliever (human) and some refuse medication and treatment, and not only for themselves but for their children too...

mustavaris
06-27-2007, 08:16 AM
Amir...Amir.. I am awaiting for your response;)