Best Fighters in the World!

[USMarineInfantry]

Here are some USMC videos for your viewing pleasure. Your welcome.

Scout Snipers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajvMc9--82g

Awesome Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JKBjWsepyw

Drill Instructors Get Crazy! (might be profanity, hard to understand them)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77Ahdxk_b1g&mode=related&search=

How the USMC does Special Forces.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ-8BSP1F54

[Hawk_nr1]

Liked the second video good job

How long have u been a marine?

[me31fm]

Awesome videos, the best unit by all standards, along with IDF Sayeret forces of course :biggrin1:

Look at this one, USMC in Iraq:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N50hzQijACs

[USMarineInfantry]

Liked the second video good job

How long have u been a marine?

Not even 2 weeks :P recent graduate, right now im in RAP (recruiters assistance program). aka, sleep in your own bed, eat good food for 30days.


nice, most of the footage in the video above me is Operation Al Fajr my good friend took part in that.

[Vladimir80]

The best fighters you got is the SEALS... that's where Marines go after they prove their metal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6SHdnrBpeE

[USMarineInfantry]

SEALS don't win wars, they are special forces.

[Vladimir80]

SEALS don't win wars, they are special forces.

I guess they just play tiddle winks eh? :roflmao3:

SEALs kick arse!

[USMarineInfantry]

They do, but im talking about WARS not a demolition mission here and there.

Your a very belligerent man.

[Vladimir80]

They do, but im talking about WARS not a demolition mission here and there.

Your a very belligerent man.

Your problem is you think Marines are elite but special forces are elite. Marines are general purpose infantry just like army.

[USMarineInfantry]

Marines are elite, we get more training, have a deep pride, show great courage under fire, and have alot of impressive victories under out belt. Study some Marine Corp history to see what we have accomplished, your problem is that you defining elite in the sense of special forces, I define elite in combat prowess.

[Din]

Your problem is you think Marines are elite but special forces are elite. Marines are general purpose infantry just like army.

Different "Tier" of Elite, the USMC, or "Jarheads" are an elite combined arms unit used right on the front lines, often to blast the way open for the Ground-Pounding regular Army units to go in.

You're essentially comparing units such as 16th OSN VV "Skif" Spetsnaz unit under the Ministry of Interior designed for counter-insurgency to 22nd Guards ObrSpN which is part of the Army.

Different size, different aims, different training regimens.

[Vladimir80]

Marines are elite, we get more training, have a deep pride, show great courage under fire, and have alot of impressive victories under out belt. Study some Marine Corp history to see what we have accomplished, your problem is that you defining elite in the sense of special forces, I define elite in combat prowess.

What makes you think you get more training than Army? Just because you have big ego don't make you better fighter. You basing yourself on the history of something is stupid. You basing your quality on the backs of the men before you... you don't have anything to do with them as they is dead.

[USMarineInfantry]

What makes you think you get more training than Army? Just because you have big ego don't make you better fighter. You basing yourself on the history of something is stupid. You basing your quality on the backs of the men before you... you don't have anything to do with them as they is dead.

US Army Infantry= 17 weeks training

US Marine Infantry= 24 weeks training

Marines= eliminate major resistance

Army= mop up the rest

I bring up history to show the things Marines have been able to do, it is entirely relevant.

[Vladimir80]

US Army Infantry= 17 weeks training

US Marine Infantry= 24 weeks training

Marines= eliminate major resistance



Let me educate you about your own military...

Army infantry

BCT=9 weeks
OSUT = 13 weeks

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Total 22 weeks

USMC Infantry

boot camp= 12 weeks
SOI= 7.5 weeks

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Total 19.5 weeks

Conclusion: Army get more training


Army= mop up the rest

That is the hardest job because they have to keep coming back... you get to go home.


I bring up history to show the things Marines have been able to do, it is entirely relevant.

What my grandfather did in the Great Patriotic War has nothing to do with my ability to be a soldier today.

[USMarineInfantry]

Let me educate you about your own military...

Army infantry

BCT=9 weeks
OSUT = 13 weeks

-----------
Total 22 weeks

USMC Infantry

boot camp= 12 weeks
SOI= 7.5 weeks

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Total 19.5 weeks

Conclusion: Army get more training



That is the hardest job because they have to keep coming back... you get to go home.



What my grandfather did in the Great Patriotic War has nothing to do with my ability to be a soldier today.

US Army Infantry= 17 weeks total...they combine boot with AIT in one course
http://www.us-army-info.com/pages/mos/infantry/11x.html

USMC Infantry= 20.5 total weeks, this includes boot
http://www.pendleton.usmc.mil/schools/soi/new/itb/training/itbcalendar(2).html

I am done arguing with you, you are by far the most belligerent and bitter person I have ever met online.

[Vladimir80]

US Army Infantry= 17 weeks total...they combine boot with AIT in one course
http://www.us-army-info.com/pages/mos/infantry/11x.html

USMC Infantry= 20.5 total weeks, this includes boot
http://www.pendleton.usmc.mil/schools/soi/new/itb/training/itbcalendar(2).html


The only Army ones who don't know what they MOS is do 17 weeks (11x). Those who know they are going infantry do the 22 weeks.

You already proved yourself wrong on the Marines... considering you are a SUPPOSED Marine you would have known that the infantry don't train 24 weeks which proves you are full of crap.


I am done arguing with you, you are by far the most belligerent and bitter person I have ever met online.

I am done arguing with a liar... your no Marine.

[Relikt]

Training is important but there is something you never learn by training. It is luck.

[apple_fritta]

I've lost respect for Russian spec ops after how they handeled Beslan Seige.

[Vladimir80]

I've lost respect for Russian spec ops after how they handeled Beslan Seige.

The seige wasn't carried out by Russian spec ops. It was the militia (police) and KGB Swat Units. This was not really a military operation at all. Spetznaz was no where to be found so enough of the "no respect for Spetznaz", they weren't there... ok!

[Din]

I lost respect for them when OSNAZ fluffed up the Moscow siege. It was terribly handled by them and used far too much gas. Now they were Spetsnaz...

[Vladimir80]

I lost respect for them when OSNAZ fluffed up the Moscow siege. It was terribly handled by them and used far too much gas. Now they were Spetsnaz...

I remember something similar happening at Waco...

[Din]

I remember something similar happening at Waco...

That was the American ATF as opposed to spec-forces with SFOD Advisors.

Waco was also the centre of a cult, there weren't really any innocents there.

[Vladimir80]

Waco was also the centre of a cult, there weren't really any innocents there.

Does that mean they have to die? I thought America had freedom of religion???

[Din]

Does that mean they have to die? I thought America had freedom of religion???

Seems really hard to get into your head that I am not an American, so I do not honestly care about freedom of religion.

The WACO cultists were lead by a man who couldn't keep it in his pants, who performed polygamy on many underage women and controlled these people to the point where they set themselves on fire rather than allow the women and children to leave safely as constantly offered by the ATF during the siege.

They were weirdos that killed several federal agents in cold-blood when they tried to execute a warrant, and refused to allow 21 children to leave before shooting several and stabbing one in their bizarre orgy of death.

They were not innocent.

[Relikt]

I lost respect for them when OSNAZ fluffed up the Moscow siege. It was terribly handled by them and used far too much gas. Now they were Spetsnaz...
This total BS. Where you guys get info?
I watch BBC investigation in which US special agent said that Spetsnaz done excellent job and US special forces couldnt done better. Why?

Because nothing then gas could solve that kind of siege.Well Spetsnaz could try to engage in direct fire fight in front of theater because silent infiltration couldnt be achieve. If I remember two special agents try slient infiltration (woman and man) both were killed before get in theater.
Question is who Russian pump gas and not be detected. Well to achieve fast gas effect they must pump huge amount of gas. If you saw video from theater you could see that inside terrorist had couple of mg and IEDs and many black widows seating with hostages and on seat next to widow is IED. So even if spetsnaz succeed to get inside black widows will active exposive and nubmer of dead will be much higher.

1/5 of hostages died. Almost non were wounded. So how many died?
They died because of seats. It is standard theater seats. They dont have head support most of dead people had their head trow in back so tongue get inside of their trachea and they choke. Smaller number died for heart failure due to gas. This is what BBC investigation conclude.
In theory medic teams could save people but it is cramped place and act fast is impossible(plus IEDs need to be handle first then look for booby traps). We could say rescue teams failed but it isnt aircraft to empty it for couple of minutes (with conscious people) or big sport stadium. It is old, small theater construct in time when terror attack wasnt everyday event.

To me it is failure why media ever get info about method use by spetsnaz. If we didnt know what happen probable school siege would handle much better.

P.S. Only in Hollywood movies hostage situations can be handle superb. Real life is different story especially when you face with opponent which want to die and became martyr.

[Vladimir80]

Seems really hard to get into your head that I am not an American, so I do not honestly care about freedom of religion.

Did I say you was American? :worried2:

[Nubian Warrior]

US Army Infantry= 17 weeks total...they combine boot with AIT in one course
http://www.us-army-info.com/pages/mos/infantry/11x.html

USMC Infantry= 20.5 total weeks, this includes boot
http://www.pendleton.usmc.mil/schools/soi/new/itb/training/itbcalendar(2).html

I am done arguing with you, you are by far the most belligerent and bitter person I have ever met online.


I know that I am a month late reading this though but man, you got iced! Are you really a marine or a poser? Why did it get ghost town around here all of a sudden?:err2:

[Vladimir80]

I know that I am a month late reading this though but man, you got iced! Are you really a marine or a poser? Why did it get ghost town around here all of a sudden?:err2:

Unless he is a Marine who doesn't know how long his training is he is poser.

[Nubian Warrior]

Unless he is a Marine who doesn't know how long his training is he is poser.

I'll tell you what, I have friends whom are marines. And one thing they cannot stand more than the enemy itself is a friggin poser. It seems to be the 'in-thang' for people in rural Amercia to wear these t-shirts with the marine or airborne rangers logo on them even though they have never served. And it's been pissing a lot of airborne rangers and marines off these days.

[Nubian Warrior]

That was the American ATF as opposed to spec-forces with SFOD Advisors.

Waco was also the centre of a cult, there weren't really any innocents there.\

Red Neck logic: "They had religion and they had fire arms. God knows they was probably drinking and smoking in there at the same time." That whole think was messed up when the ATF agent said that the reason why they lead the assault on the building was because the people inside fired on them first....THROUGH THE DOOR! When pointed out that forensics had shown that the bullet holes in the doors proved that it was fired from the outside in he stated " I know that it does not look that way, but honestly that is what happened!" Come on now.

[Vladimir80]

I'll tell you what, I have friends whom are marines. And one thing they cannot stand more than the enemy itself is a friggin poser. It seems to be the 'in-thang' for people in rural Amercia to wear these t-shirts with the marine or airborne rangers logo on them even though they have never served. And it's been pissing a lot of airborne rangers and marines off these days.

There is nothing I hate more than those who claim to serve and do not do so. I am always wary and ready to point them out if there is inconsistency in the story as the fraud must be exposed. In America it is against the law to do so with the Stolen Valor Act and they should keep that in mind before posting lies here.

[Zraver]

There is nothing I hate more than those who claim to serve and do not do so. I am always wary and ready to point them out if there is inconsistency in the story as the fraud must be exposed. In America it is against the law to do so with the Stolen Valor Act and they should keep that in mind before posting lies here.

Very few sites vet those claiming to be vets. WAB and Sino-defense both vetted me but few others have.


WACO was a disgrace, if he was guilty of child molestation it was not the ATF's job, if he had illegal guns where are they? I just arived at Ft Hood and IIRC was still in III corps rep dep before beign sent over to 2AD 2bgd(provisional) when the place burnt down. We watched the chinooks lift off for a mass causality event only to be turned around and denied acess just like the Waco fire department.

Those were also active duty troops drivign those engineerign veihicles, they were "tapped" and federalized and told to identify themsevles as federal agents. They did thier PT at the Waco YMCA according to those I talked to.

The whole incident confirmed me as anti-democrat, the later Clinton-Albright hungercide in Iraq only confirmed it.

[Musa a.s.]

The only reason I claim to be a Vet is because the VA says so, but the MEPS has me registered as still being enlisted to this day, 7 to 8 years later, and I legally voluntarily seperated before being classified as a vet by them?

[Vladimir80]

The only reason I claim to be a Vet is because the VA says so, but the MEPS has me registered as still being enlisted to this day, 7 to 8 years later, and I legally voluntarily seperated before being classified as a vet by them?

I thought you were Pakistani... MEPS is an American term.

[Musa a.s.]

I'm a Muslim African American. My sister is a member of Barak Obama's church. Their pastor and his wife are longtime(who rarely interact over the years) friends of my parents.

[Vladimir80]

I'm a Muslim African American

I just checked your profile... nice fro bro! ::D

[Musa a.s.]

Thnx! Yeah it is but did you read the bio? I said that the guy in the pic is not me but an ethnic relative; A Beja man from Eritrea/Sudan, I found that pic from the net. I have to say I'm a tad* more hansome than him, not vainglorious externally judging him though, we didn't create ourselves. I look more like a cross between him and one of OBL's half sudanese offspring.

*tad (td)
n. Informal
1. A small boy.
2. A small amount or degree; a bit.
Idiom:
a tad
To a small degree; somewhat: acting a tad silly; a tad uncomfortable