A warm greeting from the land of Simón Bolívar

[Zacarías]

Hello,

First, a greeting to all the friends who are supportive of Iran and its right to be a sovereign nation and the right to defend itself from foreign aggressions.

I'm a Venezuelan, living in Venezuela and contributing like millions more in making the Bolivarian Revolution prevail in face of the continued aggression by right wing terrorists (financed by our "friendly" neighbors in Miami) and the current regime in the United States. Couple of pages that may be useful for anyone interested in the topic:

http://www.vheadline.com/main.asp
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/
http://www.venezuelafoia.info/english.html

Looking forward to being a member of the forum,

Zacarías

[AK-101]

Hello,

First, a greeting to all the friends who are supportive of Iran and its right to be a sovereign nation and the right to defend itself from foreign aggressions.

I'm a Venezuelan, living in Venezuela and contributing like millions more in making the Bolivarian Revolution prevail in face of the continued aggression by right wing terrorists (financed by our "friendly" neighbors in Miami) and the current regime in the United States. Couple of pages that may be useful for anyone interested in the topic:

http://www.vheadline.com/main.asp
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/
http://www.venezuelafoia.info/english.html

Looking forward to being a member of the forum,

Zacarías

Welcome, although I disagree with your current government, its still nice to see more hispanic people on this forum. Soy Cubano, creo que fidel esta quemo, lol.

[Woden]

Calling it the "Bolivarian Revolution" is ridiculous. Bolivar favored the free market, limited government and property rights; he would have been appaled if he knew his name was attached to a socialist movement.

Kinda sad actually, but its a good example of revisionist history in action. Chavez took one of the most popular figures in Latin American history, attatched his name to the "revolution", and the uneducated masses start to think that Hugo Chavez is like the great Simon Bolivar when in reality the two men couldnt be further apart. Its a disgrace to Bolivars good name.

[user0000]

Hello,

First, a greeting to all the friends who are supportive of Iran and its right to be a sovereign nation and the right to defend itself from foreign aggressions.

I'm a Venezuelan, living in Venezuela and contributing like millions more in making the Bolivarian Revolution prevail in face of the continued aggression by right wing terrorists (financed by our "friendly" neighbors in Miami) and the current regime in the United States. Couple of pages that may be useful for anyone interested in the topic:

http://www.vheadline.com/main.asp
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/
http://www.venezuelafoia.info/english.html

Looking forward to being a member of the forum,

Zacarías

Welcome to the forum, Zacarias. :)
Viva Hugo!

[tankerjones]

Welcome!

Hahaha, well I think Hugo enjoys the limelight a bit much, but truly I know very little about the politics of your country. Perhaps you can educate me :)

[Abu-Jihad]

Hello,

First, a greeting to all the friends who are supportive of Iran and its right to be a sovereign nation and the right to defend itself from foreign aggressions.

I'm a Venezuelan, living in Venezuela and contributing like millions more in making the Bolivarian Revolution prevail in face of the continued aggression by right wing terrorists (financed by our "friendly" neighbors in Miami) and the current regime in the United States. Couple of pages that may be useful for anyone interested in the topic:

http://www.vheadline.com/main.asp
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/
http://www.venezuelafoia.info/english.html

Looking forward to being a member of the forum,

Zacarías

Somebody should introduce me myself because this is my first post so :rolleyes: But as an Iranian I welcome your steps on this Iranian forum and I wish a day we alltogether celebrate the fall of atrocious AngloZionist regimes all of the world .

Viva Hugo!

[Zacarías]

Woden says:
Calling it the "Bolivarian Revolution" is ridiculous. Bolivar favored the free market, limited government and property rights; he would have been appaled if he knew his name was attached to a socialist movement.

I don't exactly know in what history book you read that, but I studied here in school our history back during the time we were taught to love the US unconditionally and yet you will be surprised to know that your statement is incorrect. Bolivar came from the aristocracy but was an ardent supporter of equal rights, the abolition of slavery (which later was overturned by his enemies), giving indians, blacks and minorities (including jews) citizenship, giving women a more equitable protection under the law and establishing a system of education for the masses. He also favored a big government since he himself stated that the government had to exist to serve its people's needs. Just for your general knowledge, these are some of the basic tenets of modern Socialism.

Kinda sad actually, but its a good example of revisionist history in action. Chavez took one of the most popular figures in Latin American history, attatched his name to the "revolution", and the uneducated masses start to think that Hugo Chavez is like the great Simon Bolivar when in reality the two men couldnt be further apart. Its a disgrace to Bolivars good name.

Again, I'm 25 years old, studied here during the time of Jaime Lusinchi, Carlos Andres Perez, Rafael Caldera and all the other good, submissive-to-the-US presidents and what ALL history books here say is what I mentioned before.

In fact, Bolivar's most trusted general, the hero Antonio Jose de Sucre, was murdered by Bolivar's enemies because he was all about the Bolivarian ideal (equality, abolition of slavery, rights for women and minorities, a just government, etc.) and was seen by Paez and the aristocracy as a threat to their great land plantations (with thousands of black and indian slaves). Bolivar himself was later banned from Venezuela by Paez who basically made a coup with the help of the rich and kicked Bolivar out of Venezuela. Seeing slavery return to his land, the rich rape everyone but the rich, and foreign interests gaining a hold of the country, Bolivar ended up dying sick with tuberculosis in Colombia, shortly after.

So what can I say other than: Bolivar is most likely proud to see Venezuela once again with equal rights for all and a government that gives a damn about those who earn less than 100k a year, at last after 200 years!

[Zacarías]

Thank you all for the welcome.

Tanker, the sites I sent out are a source of info but this link here may help you get warmed up.. wrote it some time ago:
http://www.trinicenter.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=990

Ak, no prob, we can disagree without a fight :) Just remember, Chavez himself said that Venezuela's political system will never be of Marxist character. Our model is more based on a system like Sweden's than of Cuba (in fact there is very little here remotely resembling a truly communist country). Our economy is mixed and enterprise is free here as long as they don't screw people or the environment over. Also, we have complete freedom of expression. You can call Chavez and even his mom whatever you wish in the press and you won't get fined (not the case in the US!!!).

Issa, indeed, Viva Hugo! Viva Iran as well!

Abu-Jihad, AngloZionism has caused a lot of blood spill and oppression for many decades. Fortunately however, by the same wars AngloZionism is starting, it is sinking deeper and deeper in its own grave. Poetic justice: a destructive thing meeting its own end through its own method.

[tankerjones]

Ah raqin! You are back I see, good to see you ;)

Your polarized arguments have been missed, at least by me.

Sadly, your return is marked by what will be my absence. I head to final up-training for Afghanistan tomorrow.

[Zacarías]

Hola raqin,

¿Qué más compadre?

VIVA HUGO CHAVEZ!!!
VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!

¡Viva Chávez y viva la Revolución Bolivariana! Loyalty to the last drop of blood for the people of Venezuela who at last have a non-corrupt and massively support it.

DONT WORRY ABOUT THESE ANTI CHAVEZ GUYS...u must remimber they are zionist and support oppression and inequality over justice and equality for all...

I've seen that. I'm ready to debate anyone though, showing them the simple truth. Lots of people in the forum are with us though.

they cry out whenever a leader in Latin America stands up for the poor and oppressed masses.....and try to label them a "communist" to try to discredit them without addressing the issues and without taking a look at what the person is saying....

Indeed, I just keep finding it hilarious and keep meeting people who erroneously believe Chavez is a communist. It's as ridiculous as saying Bush is a philanthropist and cares about the well being of the average american.

yet they are silent to the brutal dictators the USA has propped up in Latin America that exploit, murder, futher racism and are just no good for their nation, such as Trujillo, Pinochet, Both etc etc...u will never hear racist American preachers calling for the assasination of dispicable figures such as these...yet when a man tries to help the poor just as Jesus(pbuh) and all the messengers of God did they call for his assasination

Yep. It's called "oh that one leader isn't a terrorist or a mass murderer or a child molester or a drug trafficker, that one is our friend, he gives us all the natural resources we want and the juicy contracts as long as we fill his sorry pocket with some green".

they will do everything to preserve their empire and we will do everything to shred it to pieces.

We'll fight to the bitter end if necessary to defend our right to live in a democracy free of foreign interests and not ever bow our heads to corporate america and its representatives (Bush and co.).

Stay well raqin,

Zacarías

[isr agent]

Note for raqin: zionists and israelis are not against venezuela, we even agreed to upgrade their f-16's ;) but uncle sam said no...

[Akbar]

The Swedish state tv recently showed a documentary of Chavez.
Funny how the American government almost managed installing their representatives.

[Zacarías]

The US government tried everything it could to overthrow our legitimate democracy... bribe military officers to make a coup, pay off truckers to stop working, bribe the people in the oil industry to sponsor a national strike, pay terrorist groups like the AUC to undertake selective assassinations of union leaders who were in favor of Chavez, giving tens of millions through the NED to the private media (which is vastly against the government and manipulates the facts on a daily basis), putting bombs to create instability and fear, paying gangs to beat up people in the street who were Chavez sympathizers, etc. (the list is huge).

None of this in the end mattered since 80% of the population supports Chavez and most of our officers and soldiers do as well. Now the new plan is splitting the country: the US state department is trying at all costs to make a secessionist movement in the western part of the country (Zulia state). More waste of US taxpayers' dollars gone down the drain. If Bush would have anything remotely similar to a brain he would understand this fact.

[tankerjones]

zionist=imperialist...Which Venezeuala is against all imperialist and aparthied illegal regimes:cool:

Real quick for you Raqin...
Zi·on·ism
n.
A Jewish movement that arose in the late 19th century in response to growing anti-Semitism and sought to reestablish a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Modern Zionism is concerned with the support and development of the state of Israel.

zionist

adj 1: relating to or characteristic of Zionism; "the Zionist movement" [syn: Zionist] 2: relating to or characteristic of a supporter of Zionism; "the Zionist leader Theodor Herzl" [syn: Zionist] n : a Jewish supporter of Zionism [syn: Zionist]

As opposed to...

im·pe·ri·al·ism
n.
The policy of extending a nation's authority by territorial acquisition or by the establishment of economic and political hegemony over other nations.
The system, policies, or practices of such a government.

I don't think I need to copy the definition of imperialist into here... :)

Buzz words are just as lame coming from an Islamic fundamentalist as they are from the Bush administration.

[tankerjones]

Imperialism is a concept that goes way farther back than manifest destiny. The United States is not the only country to act with imperialist intent. In fact, pretty much every major European nation has at some point. Not to mention most Arab nations, as well as Asian nations, as well as African nations, as well as South American nations... you get my point. Any war of conquest and or expansion is a imperialist action.

Zionism only pertains directly to the expansion and or preservation of the jewish state. Definition of terms might seem like nitpicking, but in this case I think it's pretty important. Anyway, that's all the time I have today. PM me if you want to really debate this, as any replies you make will probably be buried by the time I can get back here.

[Akbar]

yes and Israel was created by some shepherds and not by some other nation(s)