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Black_zero
08-18-2007, 09:16 AM
Centre blames NDA regime for Assam violence




NEW DELHI: The Congress-led coalition at the Centre directly blamed the previous NDA regime for all the "present ills" in the north eastern region, particularly Assam, where several Hindi-speaking people have been killed in attacks by ULFA and other militant groups.

"The NDA had a hand in encouraging the ULFA. Otherwise, how could the outlawed organisation become so active. It was not so strong earlier," Union Minister of State for Home Sri Prakash Jaiswal told reporters here.

Jaiswal, who undertook a day-long visit to the violence- hit parts of Assam on August 14, rejected the BJP charge that Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi had "links" with the militant outfit. "What else can you expect of opposition BJP," he said giving a clean chit to Gogoi.

"Had he (the Chief Minister) not brought the situation under control, the state assembly elections and the National Games would not have been held peacefully," he said.

Jaiswal said that while reviewing the situation with the Assam Chief Minister he had suggested dividing the 10,000 sq km Karbi Anglong district, which is thrice the size of Nagaland, into at least three police districts for better law and order administration. At present the district has only six police stations.

He said Gogoi has agreed to his suggestion. Since out of the seven lakh population, 60,000 are Hindi-speaking, he suggested setting up of clusters of 100 to 200 such families and creation of a police outpost for each cluster, besides providing weapons to the head of that group to thwart any militant attack

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Top_Headlines/Centre_blames_NDA_regime_for_Assam_violence/articleshow/2288095.cms

perisan_eagle
08-18-2007, 08:42 PM
May all enemies of India perish. Come brother let us pray to God that he annihilate all the enemies of India...

Does that include the kashmiris, assamies, most of the punjabies in the west, all of india's neighbor? Why not just make peace with your neighbors and end the occupation in kashmir and assam that would solve all on indians external problems

Black_zero
08-19-2007, 09:19 AM
Sir I am a Punjabi I want to go with India and not with Pakistan like 25mn other non muslim Punjabis...
Pakistan as a concept existed only in the 1930's and 40's..
Kashmir is not Pakistani..
Assamese are against the migration of Hindi speaking people of poorer states who are seeking jobs.. anyways where do you think they get their weapons from???

Anyways who said anything about Assam..

And why do you even care about Assam, am I saying anything about

Zikris
Minorites
Ismaili
Shias
Seraikistan
Mohajir
Balochistan
NWFP
Islamic emirate of Waziristan
SSS
JeM
LeT
TeJ
Northern Areas..

These are not my concerns.. India just wants Pakistan to have internal peace as some religious fanatic zealot if comes to power will be a source of concern for India and put pressure on our economic growth...

India is an open country. come here and speak your mind freely about anything... you can criticize the leaders, religion, military, police, govt anyone...You can file legal cases against any of them unlike Pakistan. where the supreme court cannot go anti-military.. so much for crying out loud...

BTW assam is predominantly Hindu....



Do you really care about what goes on in Iraq, Palestine, Iran and Pakistan?
Yes.
Will I do something about it?
No
Do I support Muslim/Christians/Jews?
I support one who is right on the basis of my judgement...
How do I base my judgement?
Not on religion but on actual facts..
Does that make me less religious?
I cannot say
Does that make me less spiritual?
NO

Now Sir you will go to some website.. like kashmirisunderfire.geocities.com or something which some brainwashed fanatic has made and put up pictures of even Pakistani shelling victims and say it is Kashmiris...

Kashmir as compared to Pakistan have a look at ***, govt reports and see the situation for yourself...

I am not here to say that you are wrong/right.. What you have been fed is best described as a non-neutral website... with hate propaganda most of the time. Pakistan press has been under dictators for a long times.. Agreed??

Indian press has been the pillar of our democracy alongwith our courts that is why a country of such a multi-lingual,ethnic,religious,cultures has survived..

You know what the international people describe Pakistan? They say it is fast becoming a failed state.. Inspite of the fact that it has only 1 religion and 1 binding language "lingua fraca" urdu......

Sir read the facts.. you come across as a very youthful person. I suggest start reading academic journals from people of some credibility...

Your hostility to Indian people warrants a cause?
You are not Kashmiri?
India has more muslims than Pakistan
And look at the killings in Pakistan and genocide of Shia's in 1988 other Zia...

Sir I suggest read the history and please tell me your level of education,age and current city of residence for me to decide whether to ignore you or not...

India has
Bangladeshi refugees
Afghan refugees
Kashmiri refugees
Nepalese refugees
Iraqi refugees

Kashmir is a part of India whatever happens there is a concern of the International community and India....

read the history..
Kashmir was a princely state under a Hindu King and muslim prime minister..
2 nation theory propounded by Jinnah was not applicable to it..

Pakistani tribals attacked Kashmir in 1947, 2 months after Independence...

They were killing, looting and raping innocents...(read Sheikh Abdullah's speech to the UN, Hari Singh's letter, UNCIP resolution) ..

Hari Singh could not defend his territory and acceded to India by signing the instrument of ascension....

India took part in the war and drove out the tribals, with the support of Kashmiri people....

India declared that since the situation was of war hence to remove any doubt in the minds of anyone.. we will hold the plebiscite...

UN passed a resolution stating that Pakistan has to give back... northern areas, azad kashmir, aksai chin, transkarakoram pact to India.. for indian govt to hold a plebiscite..

Pakistan has never offered to return those areas to India hence the precondition for plebiscite could not be met..Therefore the issue of plebisicite is dead as mentioned by Musharraf himself..

Pakistan again went to war with India in 1965 which sealed the fate of plebisicite as Pakistan could not be trusted and further LOC was considered a de facto border..

Simla Agreement signed b/w the 2 heads of state further confirmed LOC as the de facto the intl. border

In 1989, Pakistan started a low intensity proxy war with India much the same way it did with the Khalistan movement unsuccessfully now with Kashmiri movement..

Pakistan made the issue of Kashmiri people into a religious one. by involving the terrorist groups.. and sidelining the demands of the Kashmiri people...

Since 1989 onwards for the last 18 years India has started increasing its army in India since Kashmir is under article 370 of the Indian constitution and the tactics employed by foreign and Kashmiri terrorists are behoveth of the Indian army and not police... Hence the presence of the Indian army was necessary...

JAI HIND
nice indian propaganda...now see yourself in mirror

Whether or not one agrees with President Clinton's policy in Kosovo, we went there to stop the `ethnic cleansing' of the Kosovars by the Serbian government. Yet we have averted our glance from a similar campaign throughout India , a situation the Indian Supreme Court described as `worse than a genocide.' This ethnic cleansing has taken the lives of over 250,000 Sikhs since 1984, over 200,000 Christians in Nagaland since 1947, over 80,000 Muslims in Kashmir since 1988, and thousands upon thousands of Dalits, Assamese, Manipuris, Tamils, and other minority peoples."

Assam

http://www.geocities.com/capitolhill/congress/7434/




Junagarh: The population of Junagarh was predominantly Hindu but the ruler, the Nawab, was Muslim. Contrary to the wishes of his subjects the Nawab decided to accede to Pakistan. When Pakistan notified India that it had accepted the accession, India protested on the legal grounds that a Muslim ruler could not decide the accession of his state contrary to the expressed will of his Hindu subjects. Instead, India advocated the alternative rule, that the people of the princely states had the inherent right to express their preference for the country they wished to join. The Indian army subsequently entered Junagarh on October 09, 1947, and a referendum was held. As expected, the people of Junagarh voted for accession to India. India thereby established the principle that, in the case of a conflict between the people and the ruler of a princely state, the people, not the ruler, had the right to choose accession.

Manavadar: Another princely state with a Muslim ruler but with the majority of the population being Hindu. The ruler decided to accede to Pakistan, upon which Indian forces occupied Manavadar on October 22, 1947.

Hyderabad: In Hyderabad, an independent state with a population of 14,000,000 and an area of 70,000 sq. miles, the ruler was Muslim and the population was a mix of Muslims and Hindus, with the Hindus being in majority. Using the Junagarh principle, the Indians invaded the State of Hyderabad (Deccan) on September 13, 1948 and forced the Nizam, the Muslim Ruler, and his small ill-equipped army to surrender.

Goa, Daman and Diu: Although the British eventually gained control of most of the subcontinent, the Portuguese remained in the areas of Goa, Daman and Diu even after the British left the subcontinent in 1947. In 1961, India attacked these small areas with overwhelming force and the Portuguese, who did not have any large military presence in the area, were forced to accept the Indian occupation.

Sikkim: A small kingdom of about 7000 square kilometres, Sikkim is situated between Tibet and India. The rulers and the population were Buddhists and had close cultural and political relationships with Tibet. After the British left the subcontinent in 1947, India managed security and foreign affairs of the tiny kingdom, letting it keep its autonomy otherwise. Bu when pro-freedom riots occurred in Sikkim in 1975, India sent in her forces and occupied this small country.



[Indian Terrorism against Neighbour countries
Nepal



New clues on IA airbus hijacking emerge

BY OUR POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT

Interesting new light is now being shed on the eight-day Indian Airline Airbus hijack drama following the return of the Nepalese hostages on board the ill-fated IC 814 flight.

Among them is that connected with the defamatory charge by ZEE News that Nepali national Gajendra Man Tamrakar, a passenger and later hostage on flight IC 814 that took off from Kathmandu on December 24 for Delhi, is a terrorist and smuggler.

Although it has now conclusively proven that Tamrakar was himself merely a hostage in the Christmas Eve-New Year's Eve hijacking episode -- and ZEE News has since shown clips indicating that Tamrakar is innocent -- what is significant is that ZEE News has attributed the source of its "news" to the government of India.

That, according to news/political analysts, clearly suggests that the whole nasty smear campaign against Nepal and her portrayal as a haven for terrorists, particularly of the ISI brand, was the handmaiden of Indian officials, presumably those connected with its super-intelligence outfit, RAW!

What that means in practical terms is that rather than focusing on the supposed inaccuracies or bias of the Indian media in the hijack incident, one must rather zero in on Indian officialdom which, as is well known, has been trying assiduously over the years to position Nepal squarely under India's security umbrella, a la Bhutan.

It is in that connection that the screaming silence of the Indian media in reporting that SBS Tomar, first secretary (political) at the Indian Embassy in Kathmandu, was a passenger assumes great and obvious significance.

As much is made plain as Tomar's name has been indicated as a passenger on flight 814 on December 24 by none other than Indian Airlines and in view of the serious charge by an official Pakistani spokesman in Islamabad (vide last week's issue) that Tomar, allegedly a RAW agent, was masterminding the hijack operation.

Also revealing is the disclosure of Nepalese passengers/hostages that at a relatively relaxed point in the hijack drama they were permitted to indulge in "antakchhari" popularized by an Indian TV musical game show and which is avidly watched by many in Nepal.

Given that disclosure, astute observers in Kathmandu presume that the hijackers were none other than Indians although they are fully aware that the government of India has alleged that they are Pakistani/Afghan nationals.

What lends further credence to such speculation is that, according to the disclosure of Roshan Bikram Dahal, published in The Kathmandu Post in a front page news item on January 3, "the hijackers used to address each other by nicknames like Doctor, Burger, Shankar, Bhola and Chief." Attention may in particular be drawn to the names Shankar and Bhola which are patently Hindu names (both are used to signify Lord Shiva).

That apart it is also meaningful, say analysts, that according to disclosures of the Nepalese passengers/hostages who have returned home, the hijackers spoke mainly in Hindi and sometimes in English, again suggesting that they were Indians, not Pakistanis or Afghans.



Excerpts from "India increases pressure for PM's visit", People's Review,
January 13-19, 2000:

BY OUR DIPLOMATIC CORRESPONDENT

While the full, authenticated facts of the Christmas Eve hijacking of an Indian Airline airbus remain as murky as ever -- despite the propaganda barrage unleashed by India -- one thing appears incontrovertible: that New Delhi is putting pressure on Prime Minister Krishna Prasad Bhattarai to pack his bags and make an official trip to India soon.

.....

Indeed, it is meaningful, India-watchers here say, that Indian Ambassador K.V. Rajan attempted at an abruptly called interaction programme with the media the other day, courtesy the Reporters' Club, to cool down frayed Nepalese tempers by regretting Indian media reports on the hijacking -- reports that were tantamount to a smear campaign against this country.

.....

The interest of the government of India in having Bhattarai over to, among other things, get him to agree to a host of security-related understandings and agreements -- written and unwritten -- is crystal clear. Despite or perhaps because of that there is a groundswell of enlightened opinion here that is against an official visit by the prime minister to India at a time when Indian officialdom has repeatedly and publicly voiced claims that India's security is being threatened from Nepalese soil, particularly and allegedly from Pakistan's intelligence agency, the ISI.

It is also being pointed out that while India has been crying herself hoarse over Pakistan's alleged involvement in the hijack incident, no other government on earth has -- thus far, at least -- backed the Indian claim.

Indeed, if one were to go by claims alone, one should then accept Islamabad's charge that the hijacking was a "stage-managed" affair designed to "prove" that Pakistan is a terrorist state.

The bottom line thus is that an official visit by the prime minister to India at such a time is not only inappropriate but could be suicidal as far as preserving this country's independence and sovereignty is concerned.



People's Review, January 6-12, 2000
Pakistan denies allegations

BY OUR REPORTER

Pakistan has denied Indian allegations of her involvement in recent Indian Airlines aircraft hijack. In a statement of the Foreign Office Spokesman of Pakistan, it is stated that without a shred of evidence, the Indian External Affairs Minister has made a new allegation against Pakistan.

"Earlier the Indian Airlines published the list of passengers aboard the hijacked plane. It did not include any Pakistan nationals. The baseless allegation now can only expose India's prejudice and malevolence not to mention ingratitude for the cooperation of authorities extended throughout the hijacking crisis," it is stated in the statement.

"We did everything possible to ensure the safety of the hostages aboard the hijacked plane during its unwelcome stay at Lahore airport. Mr. Jaswant Singh expressed gratitude to our Foreign Minister," it is said.

The Indian officials reportedly conducted the negotiations through specialized communication equipment, which they had flown to Kandahar. If the officials obtained some particulars about the hijackers, these have not been disclosed to facilitate identification, the statement reads. "No one else listened to dialogue between the Indians and the hijackers".

"The Indian Minister did not desist even from attributing a false statement to the Information Minister of Afghanistan. The latter has clarified that he did not say that the hijackers had left Afghanistan for Quetta in Pakistan".

Pakistan Government issued immediate instruction of all immigration checkpoints in the provinces of Balohistan and NWFP on December 31 when the hijacking ended, to arrest persons bearing the names of hijackers announced by the Indian Government if they sought entry into Pakistan, it is said.

So far no such person has presented himself at any of the checkpoints in Pakistan, it is claimed. "Those who suggest Pakistan should arrest hijackers make the naive assumption that the hijackers have entered Pakistan. To the best of our information, such an assumption is unwarranted," it is stated.

"The Indian Government has so far given no details as to the profile of the hijackers. In the absence of such details, it would be unauthorized route. Nevertheless, our authorities will maintain strict vigilance and make utmost efforts to arrest and investigate persons who look suspicious," the statement reveals. The Government is cognizant of its obligations under the ICAO conventions. Due action will be taken in case the hijackers come into its custody, it is said.



People's Review, Feb 3-9, 2000
RAW official on hijacked flight IC 814: Asiaweek

BY OUR POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT

A stunning new bit of information on the Indian Airlines airbus hijacking on December 24 has surfaced in the Intelligence column of Asiaweek in its January 21, 2000 issue.

In an item entitled "Another Reason Not to Attack", the Hong-Kong based news weekly says that, according to an unidentified source in New Delhi, an "undisclosed reason" why no attack was ordered on the hijacked aircraft in Amritsar was because the brother-in-law of N.K. Singh, "the senior-most bureaucrat in India's Prime Minister's Office" was on the plane. (See also editorial).

Interestingly, the brother-in-law has been identified in the said Asiaweek item as "Shashi Bhushan Singh" who it then goes on to disclose is "a senior police officer assigned to India's premier counterintelligence organization, the Research and Analysis Wing." (RAW). Even more revealingly, Asiaweek adds that Shashi Bhushan Singh "was working -- apparently under cover -- in the Indian embassy in Kathmandu, where the hijackers initially boarded the plane on December 24."

The Asiaweek revelation recalls the charge made by the spokesman of Pakistan's foreign ministry in the early days of the hijack drama (vide People's Review, December 30-January 5 issue) that a RAW agent, identified as "SBS Tomar", first secretary in the Indian embassy in Kathmandu, was masterminding the hijack operation.

As indicated in our earlier report on the subject, SBS Tomar was also shown on the passenger manifest of Indian Airlines flight IC-814 in the immediate aftermath of the hijacking.

Against the backdrop of the Asiaweek revelation, what is striking is that there has, thus far, not only been no official contradiction that a Kathmandu-based Indian diplomat was on board flight IC-814 on December 24 but that no mention at all has been made of the Pakistani allegation in the saturation coverage of the hijacking in the Indian media.

What lends another intriguing dimension to the whole nasty business of the hijacking is that Tomar's initials "SBS" coincides with the name "Shashi Bhushan Singh"!

Follows below the full text of said Asiaweek item:

"Another Reason Not to Attack"

"A source close to the family of N.K. Singh, the senior-most bureaucrat in India's Prime Minister's Office, says an undisclosed reason that PM Atal Bihari Vajpayee's advisers did not order an attack on the hijacked Indian Airlines Airbus in Amritsar was because Singh's brother-in-law, Shashi Bhushan Singh, was on the plane. The Singh family isn't talking publicly, but Shashi Singh is a senior police officer assigned to India's premier counterintelligence organization, the Research and Analysis Wing. He was working -- apparently under cover -- in the Indian Embassy in Kathmandu, where the hijackers initially boarded the plane on December 24."



i dont want to post all countires it will make long to my post..

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perisan_eagle
08-19-2007, 02:21 PM
brainwashing....You can't handle the truth...

It appears to you the opposite. India has 400 freedom movements pakistan has none, all you see about this balochistan waziristan bs is just internet freedom movements which have no liability. I was just in pershawer a couple months back and nothing was wrong, I also went a visited quetta its more peaceful than many places in india.

currently these are confirmed freedom movements in india which are taking full ground

Khalistan
Dalitstan
Kashmir
Hyderabad
Assam
Nagaland

Just grants these country freedom from the indian union and I can assure you much of indias "INTERNAL :roflmao3:" problems will be solved

indianguy
08-19-2007, 02:30 PM
It appears to you the opposite. India has 400 freedom movements pakistan has none, all you see about this balochistan waziristan bs is just internet freedom movements which have no liability. I was just in pershawer a couple months back and nothing was wrong, I also went a visited quetta its more peaceful than many places in india.

currently these are confirmed freedom movements in india which are taking full ground

Khalistan
Dalitstan
Kashmir
Hyderabad
Assam
Nagaland

Just grants these country freedom from the indian union and I can assure you much of indias "INTERNAL :roflmao3:" problems will be solved

Well i m from Hyderabad .. and Hyderabadis are not revolting against Indian union. Nizam Osman only opt to be part of Indian union and even serve as the Governor of Hyderabad.

Nizam army was not ill equipped at the time of Police action and it was having 17 Batallions and even Tank regiments and Militia known as Razakars more than 200,000 .
But Nizam Osman agreed to join India and till now both Hindus and Muslims resepct their late king .