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Kiaar
08-23-2007, 01:34 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=477088&in_page_id=1770
by DAVID WILLIAMS - More by this author »

Last updated at 18:53pm on 22nd August 2007

His face covered by a balaclava, an official brandishing a cane repeatedly lashes the back of a man found guilty of breaking Iran's morality laws.

Two police officers hold the legs of 25-year-old Saeed Ghanbari and another his arms to ensure there is no escape from the punishment of 80 lashes handed down by a religious court.

Traffic was brought to a halt in Qazvin, 90 miles west of the capital Tehran, as more than 1,000 men gathered behind barricades to watch the public flogging.

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Saeed Ghanbari receives 80 lashes for abusing alcohol and having sex outside marriage


Some took pictures on mobile telephones, others climbed traffic lights for a better vantage point as Ghanbari was marched to the centre of the square under the watch of blue-uniformed guards carrying machine guns.

A four foot long metal bench was taken from a police van and the convicted man was made to lie on it on his stomach, his fawn checked shirt pulled-up to his shoulders to expose his back and waist.

One police officer held his hands together beneath the bench, two others gripped his legs to ensure there was little movement.

Two police officers stood-by, their faces covered with balaclavas - each to administer 40 lashes.



Crowds gather to watch the spectacle

Both men then lashed Ghanbari, taking the cane back behind their heads to guarantee maximum impact, each stroke leaving a distinctive red mark and bruising on his back.

Several wounds began to bleed.

It was unclear exactly what his offence had been as the country's strict morality laws cover many areas, but it was reported he had been convicted of abusing alcohol and having sex outside of marriage.

The public lashings have been endorsed by the judiciary as a way of deterring alcohol abuse at a time when it is on the increase among young men but some religious leaders are said to be questioning their validity, fearing they have an adverse impact on the country's image abroad.

Although men and women convicted of flouting public morals are routinely flogged in detention centres, public floggings are considered rare.


Human Rights groups say there have been a marked rise in recent months in the number of people sentenced to executions and floggings in Iran.

Amnesty International, which said it is "greatly concerned by continuing human rights abuses in Iran", has highlighted figures revealing 117 people were executed in 2006 with thousands facing floggings.

They included a woman, who had been forced into prostitution as an eight-year-old, receiving 99 lashes because of "acts contrary to chasity."

Earlier this year, a man was flogged after a copy of the Bible was found in his car.

At least 120 executions have been recorded so far this year, according to Amnesty, with two youths under the age of 18 when they committed their crimes among those killed

The latest gruesome pictures have emerged three weeks after there was an outcry over a video of a flogging in a Malaysian jail was posted on the Internet.

The sickening images showed a man being lashed repeatedly on the buttocks until he bled from several wounds.

dogukan
08-23-2007, 02:22 PM
thats their way of being modern, civilized people

Arashi
08-23-2007, 02:30 PM
6th century desert-laws implemented in the 21th century. Go Mullahs!

Behrooz Boonabi
08-23-2007, 04:29 PM
The link doesn't work and the article doesn't show up when searched.

Kiaar
08-23-2007, 04:37 PM
The link doesn't work and the article doesn't show up when searched.

Sorry, link should work now.

Behrooz Boonabi
08-23-2007, 04:44 PM
Flogging for adultery happen in Iran all the time, it was probably not his first offense. However, being flogged for having a bible thing is a strait lie. In Iran, you can carry a bible or a hundred bibles and read them in public, with friends or whatever.

payam
08-23-2007, 05:01 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=477088&in_page_id=1770
by DAVID WILLIAMS - More by this author »

Last updated at 18:53pm on 22nd August 2007

His face covered by a balaclava, an official brandishing a cane repeatedly lashes the back of a man found guilty of breaking Iran's morality laws.

Two police officers hold the legs of 25-year-old Saeed Ghanbari and another his arms to ensure there is no escape from the punishment of 80 lashes handed down by a religious court.

Traffic was brought to a halt in Qazvin, 90 miles west of the capital Tehran, as more than 1,000 men gathered behind barricades to watch the public flogging.

Scroll down for more


Saeed Ghanbari receives 80 lashes for abusing alcohol and having sex outside marriage


Some took pictures on mobile telephones, others climbed traffic lights for a better vantage point as Ghanbari was marched to the centre of the square under the watch of blue-uniformed guards carrying machine guns.

A four foot long metal bench was taken from a police van and the convicted man was made to lie on it on his stomach, his fawn checked shirt pulled-up to his shoulders to expose his back and waist.

One police officer held his hands together beneath the bench, two others gripped his legs to ensure there was little movement.

Two police officers stood-by, their faces covered with balaclavas - each to administer 40 lashes.



Crowds gather to watch the spectacle

Both men then lashed Ghanbari, taking the cane back behind their heads to guarantee maximum impact, each stroke leaving a distinctive red mark and bruising on his back.

Several wounds began to bleed.

It was unclear exactly what his offence had been as the country's strict morality laws cover many areas, but it was reported he had been convicted of abusing alcohol and having sex outside of marriage.

The public lashings have been endorsed by the judiciary as a way of deterring alcohol abuse at a time when it is on the increase among young men but some religious leaders are said to be questioning their validity, fearing they have an adverse impact on the country's image abroad.

Although men and women convicted of flouting public morals are routinely flogged in detention centres, public floggings are considered rare.


Human Rights groups say there have been a marked rise in recent months in the number of people sentenced to executions and floggings in Iran.

Amnesty International, which said it is "greatly concerned by continuing human rights abuses in Iran", has highlighted figures revealing 117 people were executed in 2006 with thousands facing floggings.

They included a woman, who had been forced into prostitution as an eight-year-old, receiving 99 lashes because of "acts contrary to chasity."

Earlier this year, a man was flogged after a copy of the Bible was found in his car.

At least 120 executions have been recorded so far this year, according to Amnesty, with two youths under the age of 18 when they committed their crimes among those killed

The latest gruesome pictures have emerged three weeks after there was an outcry over a video of a flogging in a Malaysian jail was posted on the Internet.

The sickening images showed a man being lashed repeatedly on the buttocks until he bled from several wounds.

:laugh4:
how easy we can understand the diffrences of stupid story and reality.
how emotional this text is:laugh4:
I read bible in mosque...here nobody punish you cuase of reading it...it's available in libraries.book stores....
funny americans...funny liers....LOOK HOW THEY MAKE AN ANGLE FROM RUFFIANS.
enjoy posting bruster....continue....continie....

payam
08-23-2007, 05:08 PM
That was so simple.
Saeed Ghanbari receives 80 lashes for abusing alcohol and having sex outside marriage.such guys are not clean.are always nagative for society.some ruffians.
and americans are the supporter of terrorist and ruffians.cuase without them iran is safe and they cant do anything.

oh by the way tell emotional and propaganda maker writer add this picture to his text to make it a finish story:(by then he easly can make sure that his story can makes people believe that iranian are taliban)
http://www.agentura.ru/dossier/izrail/people/falkov/afghanistan/glava31/talibs.jpg
http://www.rawa.org/qasas2.jpg

loool

Sinosphere
08-23-2007, 05:12 PM
I am not familiar with Iranian culture, so I want to ask why the man is lashed 80 times? is it compulsory for 80 lashes for this sin or it happened that the lashing stopped at 80?

Kiaar
08-23-2007, 05:18 PM
:laugh4:
how easy we can understand the diffrences of stupid story and reality.
how emotional this text is:laugh4:
I read bible in mosque...here nobody punish you cuase of reading it...it's available in libraries.book stores....
funny americans...funny liers....LOOK HOW THEY MAKE AN ANGLE FROM RUFFIANS.
enjoy posting bruster....continue....continie....

The writer of this article and the website are British, not American.

payam
08-23-2007, 05:21 PM
The writer of this article and the website are British, not American.
So the diffrences?
britishs are angle?
britishs's are more perfessional ofcource....in making such things.

Kiaar
08-23-2007, 05:29 PM
So the diffrences?
britishs are angle?
britishs's are more perfessional ofcource....in making such things.

No...but you said this was American. It's not, it's British.

That's all that I was saying. You're looking for a meaning in my words that isn't there :p

payam
08-23-2007, 05:30 PM
I am not familiar with Iranian culture, so I want to ask why the man is lashed 80 times? is it compulsory for 80 lashes for this sin or it happened that the lashing stopped at 80?

it's a law of sharia.to punish them with 80 lashes.
also accoarding to the islamic rules the guy who whip the criminal must put a book at the middle of his arm and body.-means they have no right to do it with rudeness-
the only goal for it is to punish the guy in front of others to make him change his dirty ways.

No...but you said this was American. It's not, it's British.

That's all that I was saying. You're looking for a meaning in my words that isn't there :p

ok sorry americans::)

Sinosphere
08-23-2007, 05:47 PM
it's a law of sharia.to punish them with 80 lashes.
also accoarding to the islamic rules the guy who whip the criminal must put a book at the middle of his arm and body.-means they have no right to do it with rudeness-
the only goal for it is to punish the guy in front of others to make him change his dirty ways.


Thank you very much, I undertsand now. :)

kasaeed
08-24-2007, 12:34 AM
I was watching CNN yesterday. In an interview an Iranian lawmaker said that in past 20 years only 3 or 4 persons were stoned to death for adultery.

Islamic penalties basically terrorize people so that don;t even think of going near these sins. Which I think is better for the society rather then sending them to jail so that they be trained in other offenses.

payam
08-24-2007, 03:14 AM
Well, yes that lawmarker was true.other stories about stoning to death of 100 people in 1 day in iran(!) are just stupid propaganda.
but also i think that stoning to death of rapers is not a bad idea.realy they are so dirty soul and there is no other punishment enough for them.

DehdaR
08-25-2007, 03:25 PM
In my respectful opinion both Sharia and Hadith is pure ********. Sharia isn't a part of the Quran. Sharia is the understanding of certain self-proclaimed Islamic clerics written in text and presented as god's will! One can read the Quran in many ways, and as said in the Quran, one most find his own path! In the Quran one is advised to read the bible and study other religions and not blindly accept Islam/Quran.

The Quran is a beautiful book and Islam is a tolerant and rich religion, but when certain people try to present their own understanding as god’s will, it is nothing less than blasphemy!

Request 1
09-17-2007, 08:14 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=477088&in_page_id=1770
by DAVID WILLIAMS - More by this author »

Last updated at 18:53pm on 22nd August 2007

His face covered by a balaclava, an official brandishing a cane repeatedly lashes the back of a man found guilty of breaking Iran's morality laws.

Two police officers hold the legs of 25-year-old Saeed Ghanbari and another his arms to ensure there is no escape from the punishment of 80 lashes handed down by a religious court.

Traffic was brought to a halt in Qazvin, 90 miles west of the capital Tehran, as more than 1,000 men gathered behind barricades to watch the public flogging.

Scroll down for more


Saeed Ghanbari receives 80 lashes for abusing alcohol and having sex outside marriage


Some took pictures on mobile telephones, others climbed traffic lights for a better vantage point as Ghanbari was marched to the centre of the square under the watch of blue-uniformed guards carrying machine guns.

A four foot long metal bench was taken from a police van and the convicted man was made to lie on it on his stomach, his fawn checked shirt pulled-up to his shoulders to expose his back and waist.

One police officer held his hands together beneath the bench, two others gripped his legs to ensure there was little movement.

Two police officers stood-by, their faces covered with balaclavas - each to administer 40 lashes.



Crowds gather to watch the spectacle

Both men then lashed Ghanbari, taking the cane back behind their heads to guarantee maximum impact, each stroke leaving a distinctive red mark and bruising on his back.

Several wounds began to bleed.

It was unclear exactly what his offence had been as the country's strict morality laws cover many areas, but it was reported he had been convicted of abusing alcohol and having sex outside of marriage.

The public lashings have been endorsed by the judiciary as a way of deterring alcohol abuse at a time when it is on the increase among young men but some religious leaders are said to be questioning their validity, fearing they have an adverse impact on the country's image abroad.

Although men and women convicted of flouting public morals are routinely flogged in detention centres, public floggings are considered rare.


Human Rights groups say there have been a marked rise in recent months in the number of people sentenced to executions and floggings in Iran.

Amnesty International, which said it is "greatly concerned by continuing human rights abuses in Iran", has highlighted figures revealing 117 people were executed in 2006 with thousands facing floggings.

They included a woman, who had been forced into prostitution as an eight-year-old, receiving 99 lashes because of "acts contrary to chasity."

Earlier this year, a man was flogged after a copy of the Bible was found in his car.
At least 120 executions have been recorded so far this year, according to Amnesty, with two youths under the age of 18 when they committed their crimes among those killed

The latest gruesome pictures have emerged three weeks after there was an outcry over a video of a flogging in a Malaysian jail was posted on the Internet.

The sickening images showed a man being lashed repeatedly on the buttocks until he bled from several wounds.


This is Pure BS. Iran does not discriminate against any religion. Carrying a Bible around is not against the law. What was this Author was smoking while writing this article?

Request 1
09-17-2007, 08:20 PM
I was watching CNN yesterday. In an interview an Iranian lawmaker said that in past 20 years only 3 or 4 persons were stoned to death for adultery.

Islamic penalties basically terrorize people so that don;t even think of going near these sins. Which I think is better for the society rather then sending them to jail so that they be trained in other offenses.

You're exactly right.The goal of Islamic Sharia law is to scare the piss outta people and show them that this kind of behavior and these crimes are not needed, and the outcome will be this. When people see the punishments in public, they are terrorized and discouraged from commiting sins like those. It also seems to be working, I mean look at the crime rates of Iran and Saudi Arabia as compared ot the Western World. Big difference right?

That's for those people who say Sharia law is BS. Yeah like your Western punishments are really working!:roflmao3:

To back my claim, consider reading this article:

http://www.nationmaster.com/article/Crime-Rates-Around-the-World

Comparative statistics of crime rates around the world draws a surprising, if somewhat amusing, conclusion – the world we now live in is a safer place than before.

Crime in the only remaining superpower is seen to be declining. In US, street crime hovers near historic lows – hence the declaration of certain analysts that life in US has never been safer. And with the apparently downward trend of criminal activities all over the world, the world appears to be a friendlier place – notwithstanding terrorism. This is in sharp contrast to the perception that the world is getting more dangerous everyday.

Though the United States still ranks among the highest in violent crimes among industrialized nations, and also in overall crime, the country is enjoying a decline in crime numbers, nevertheless. In the meantime, crime in many other nations – specifically in Eastern and Western Europe – appear intent on catching up. Low-crime societies like Denmark and Finland are ranking high among street crime rates in the present. Even countries absent from the crime radar are making themselves conspicuous – like another industrialized nation, Japan.

Comparative analysis of crime rate statistics around the world remains complicated. Different definitions of what constitutes a crime make official crime statistics undependable, for one. Still, the United Nation initiative of global crime rates tracking – the World Crime Survey – may offer the most realistic and reliable figures.

Other factors affecting crime levels are:

a. Difference in legal and criminal justice systems
b. Rates of crime report and police recording
c. Differences in the point at which a crime is measured – some countries believes it is the time when the offense is reported; others only do the recording when a suspect in identified and the papers are transferred to the prosecutor
d. Differences in the ruling of which multiple offenses are counted
e. Differences in the lost of offenses to be included in the whole crime figures
f. Differences in data quality

Using the United States as a point of reference, we arrive at the following conclusions:

Burglary – Widely believed as the gravest of property crimes, burglary is lower in US today than in the 80s. As of 2000, US has lower rates than Australia, Canada, Denmark, England, Finland, and Wales. It has higher rates than Korea, Saudi Arabia, and Spain.
Homicide – US had been consistently high in homicide rates than most of the Western countries from 1980 – 2000. Though the rate was cut almost in half in the 90s, it is still higher than all nations without political and social turmoil with the 2000 rate of 5.5 homicides per 100,000 people. Countries entrenched in turmoil like Colombia and South Africa, had 63 homicides per 100,000 and 51, respectively.

Rape – In the 80s and 90s, US rates were higher than most of the Western countries, but by 2000, Canada is leading. Rape reports are lower in Asia and the Middle East.

Robbery – The past 2 decades saw a steady decline in the US. Countries with more reported robberies than US include England, Wales, Portugal, and Spain. Those with fewer are France, Germany, and Italy, and Asian countries plus the Middle East.

In overall crimes (the total of all mentioned crimes), US ranks the highest, followed by Germany, United Kingdom, France, and South Africa.


-- Cathie Madsen, Dec 2006.