Blasts rock Hyderabad, 43 dead

[indianguy]

NDTV Correspondent
Saturday, August 25, 2007 (Hyderabad)
At least 43 people are feared dead and several others injured in two separate blasts in Hyderabad on Saturday evening.

Eight persons died when an explosion ripped through an auditorium in Lumbini Park in the heart of the city when a laser show was on, police said.

The blast occurred at about 7.45 pm when the laser show had just started. So powerful was the blast that some of bodies were flung into the air and scattered over the area.

In another blast around the same time at Gokul chat bhandar at Kothi area, at least 12 persons were killed and scores were injured.

Hyderabad Police Commissioner Balwinder Singh said the toll at Lumbini Park, overlooking the picturesque Hussain Sagar lake, may go up as it was teeming with week-end crowd.

The police cordoned off the areas and sounded a red alert across the city and conducted searches at railway stations and bus depots.

The profusely bleeding injured were admitted to Osmania Hospital, Mediciti, Gandhi hospital and other hospitals.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has condemned the blasts and expressed deep concern.

Police say the blasts were meticulously planned and executed. The state government has appealed to maintain clam and asked people to remain indoors.

Intelligence sources told NDTV that blasts are terrorists attacks. And according to reports explosives were found at three places in the city on Saturday morning.

There was confusion about what exactly had caused the explosion at the eatery after initial report said it was due to a cylinder blast.

However, police suspect that going by the impact and high casualties, it could be triggered by RDX.

The twin blasts came three months after the powerful explosion at Mecca Masjid in May last.

Chief Minister Y S Rajasekhar Reddy held an emergency meeting with top police officials and soon afterwards rushed to the spot. (With PTI Inputs)

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20070023921&ch=8/25/2007%2010:03:00%20PM

Curse of them who carried out this attack.

[perisan_eagle]

My prayers are to there families

[not-now]

so sad damn thats the second blast in hyderabad :(
god i have to go there soon for my sister's wedding hope everything stays safe from now on.

[indianguy]

so sad damn thats the second blast in hyderabad :(
god i have to go there soon for my sister's wedding hope everything stays safe from now on.

Dont worry everything will be fine by the time of sister's wedding.

Every Hyderabadi is shocked after hearing this and all are sad .May God bless the souls of those you are not any more in between us . Amen

[Black_zero]

HYDERABAD, India: Two bomb blasts tore through the Indian city of Hyderabad on late Saturday, killing at least 37 people and injuring 60 in what officials said they suspected was a terror attack.

One explosion rocked a packed auditorium where a laser show was under way in an amusement park jammed with weekend crowds, while another blast ripped through a street eatery minutes later. "We now have at least 37 people killed and 60 people injured," Balwinder Singh, Hyderabad police chief, told AFP. At least 15 of the injured were in serious condition, officials said.

Federal Minister of State for Home Sriprakash Jaiswal said the explosions in the city, which has a large Muslim population and is considered communally sensitive, were the handiwork of "some terrorist group."

"One terrorist group or the other, which is bent on destroying the unity of the country, is certainly involved in the blasts in Hyderabad," Jaiswal said. About 40 per cent of Hyderabad's 6.5 million population is Muslim.

The Hyderabad city administrator said on Saturday that police "already have some leads" but did not elaborate.

Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister YS Rajshekhar Reddy called on "everyone to be calm."

"Bomb blasts are the cruellest acts against humanity. The perpetrators of such an act could have no religion, ideological or national identity. They at best could be described as traitors of humanity," said Reddy.

Dismembered limbs, clothes and shoes of people watching the laser show in Lumbini Park lay scattered on the ground and there were pools of blood where victims had fallen.

"People were running away, some who were hurt had blood streaming from their bodies," a private security guard said.

Injured people were rushed to the hospital in three-wheel scooters and cars. The chief minister said about 500 people were in the auditorium at the time of the explosion.

Federal Home Minister Shivraj Patil said he would visit Hyderabad on Sunday.

Explosive experts visited the blast sites to collect samples of materials used while police evacuated the areas where the explosions occurred. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh condemned the blasts and expressed his deep

[Sinosphere]

Taking innocent lifes is unforgivable, the culprits should be punished. :(

[Musa a.s.]

They should be crucified.

[RAAWI]

very sad and RIP all victoms, coward act.

regards

[not-now]

Dont worry everything will be fine by the time of sister's wedding.

Every Hyderabadi is shocked after hearing this and all are sad .May God bless the souls of those you are not any more in between us . Amen


yeah thankfully most of my family is from there butthankfully they are fine i've been to hyderabad many many times and the scary thing is we always go these sort of places but everything has been ok hope it's the same next year during her wedding.I've never been scared to go to india or pakistan but now i'm slightly apprehensive because of all these terrible attacks going on.

[indianguy]

yeah thankfully most of my family is from there butthankfully they are fine i've been to hyderabad many many times and the scary thing is we always go these sort of places but everything has been ok hope it's the same next year during her wedding.I've never been scared to go to india or pakistan but now i'm slightly apprehensive because of all these terrible attacks going on.

Even all my family is fine .. Thanks to God ..

Both Hindus and Muslims have lost their loved ones , and Tommarrow there is Hyderabad bandh .. BJP is going for that .

These type of incidents should not be putted on Government by Opposition , coz clearly its intelligence failure.

Hope all Leaders will remember first that people have lost thier loved ones and stop making it a political issue .

[not-now]

Even all my family is fine .. Thanks to God ..

Both Hindus and Muslims have lost their loved ones , and Tommarrow there is Hyderabad bandh .. BJP is going for that .

These type of incidents should not be putted on Government by Opposition , coz clearly its intelligence failure.

Hope all Leaders will remember first that people have lost thier loved ones and stop making it a political issue .

i'm glad your family is ok :smile1:

jeez these militants seem to have an infinite supply of ammo :rawrrrrr3:

[Amir]

condolences to the people of India

[Maverick]

So very unfortunate these evens and the plague of bombs. It is the most unfortunate and destructive find ever. It is something that we could have done without albeit without other great things too but at the expense of Human lives it is not acceptable!

Another unfortunate thing is the blame game that India plays every time something goes wrong. Its time they realized that Pakistan's got its own problems and lots of them....we do not have time or resources to go around bombing Indian cities. I believe this hate game blame card thing should stop. Atleast Pakistan is not doing it any more.

[indianguy]

So very unfortunate these evens and the plague of bombs. It is the most unfortunate and destructive find ever. It is something that we could have done without albeit without other great things too but at the expense of Human lives it is not acceptable!

Another unfortunate thing is the blame game that India plays every time something goes wrong. Its time they realized that Pakistan's got its own problems and lots of them....we do not have time or resources to go around bombing Indian cities. I believe this hate game blame card thing should stop. Atleast Pakistan is not doing it any more.

Every body should understand one thing that no organization are capable of doing things like this. I mean getting advance weapons , making bombs , planning attacks.

Always there are Governments behind these type of Organizations. and u can check out that every Organization is one way or another way linked and are based in neighbouring countries.

In majority of attacks in Indian cities .. Kashmiris are involved and Kashmiris are getting full support from Pakistan .

Doesnt Pakistani Government supports Kashmiris ? i know u will say yes .

[Black_zero]

ISLAMABAD: Strongly commending blasts in Indian Hyderabad, which have left 42 people dead, Pakistan said Monday that India should have probed into Hyderabad blasts before starting blame game.

“They have been making these allegations, and nothing ever came out of those allegations — and yet they continue maligning Pakistan,” said Tasnim Aslam, a Foreign Office spokeswoman said while giving weekly briefing here.

“Only the Indians have this kind of some supernatural powers that as soon as some terrorist act takes place they know how it happened and who is responsible

[Black_zero]

Even there is a high alert across the country, the twin blasts in the Indian Hyderabad city yesterday have further alarmed the law enforcement agencies. The Indian hardliners and extremists Hindu groups may be involved in Hyderabad twin blasts, apprehend defence analysts.

They also apprehended more blasts in Pakistan in the wake of twin blasts in Hyderabad city of India.

Since 1980 to date both India and Pakistan have been victims of sabotage, terrorism and extremism at the hands of hardliners and religious fanatics. It is interesting that both the Indian and Pakistani governments have been blaming each other for blasts in their countries. However, for the last two years they are very careful in putting such blame on each other. When contacted by The Post a known defence analyst Dr. Hasan Askari said that the Indian interpretation regarding such blasts always went against Pakistan in the past. However, he pointed out that several extremist groups had also emerged in India whereas there was only one faction of the Muslims namely SIMI (Students India Muslim International) that was taken as extremist one. He said that HVP (Hindu Vishwa Preshad and RSS were two notorious Hindu hardliners organisations in India. According to Dr Hasan Askari the yesterday's blasts occured in Muslim populated area of Hyderabad. He said agencies of both the countries also react against such incidents, as a result of which more blasts witnessed in both the countries. Every time the agencies retaliate in the opposition direction, Askari remarked

[aviator]

Even there is a high alert across the country, the twin blasts in the Indian Hyderabad city yesterday have further alarmed the law enforcement agencies. The Indian hardliners and extremists Hindu groups may be involved in Hyderabad twin blasts, apprehend defence analysts.

However, he pointed out that several extremist groups had also emerged in India whereas there was only one faction of the Muslims namely SIMI (Students India Muslim International) that was taken as extremist one. He said that HVP (Hindu Vishwa Preshad and RSS were two notorious Hindu hardliners organisations in India. According to Dr Hasan Askari the yesterday's blasts occured in Muslim populated area of Hyderabad.

Where is the link? Hyderabad has extremist muslim population not Hindu extremists. And blasts was not in muslim majority area it was in a crowded place where there were Hindus and muslims , I guess 12 people killed were muslims and 22 were Hindus , tell your pakistani propaganda machines to at least give it a thought once than proving themselves dumb always.

Anyways your stupid pakistani reporter whose BS you have posted doesn't knows correct full form of SIMI.

Bin Laden's shadow in Hyderabad (http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/aug/26raman.htm)

During a visit to Hyderabad on July 31 and August 1,2007, I was told that the influence of the Lashkar-e-Tayiba and the Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami was so pervasive in the local Muslim community that many members of the community kept in their houses pictures of Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf and Osama bin Laden.

Many government servants also complained that the government was aware of this, but the political leadership lacked the will to act against the extremist elements in the local Muslim community.

This became evident subsequently in the attempted assault on Taslima Nasreen, the Bangladeshi writer, by some prominent leaders of the local Muslim community when she had gone to Hyderabad to address a meeting. The political leadership, which was hesitant to act against the Muslim leaders involved, played down the incident.

They have been systematically setting up sleeper cells in the local Muslim community since 1995 and also among the Muslims from Hyderabad working in the Gulf.

During the visit of President George Bush to India in March, 2006, Hyderabad was one of the cities which saw anti-US demonstrations by sections of the Muslim community. (Link:Why should Al Qaeda be interested in India? (http://in.rediff.com/news/2007/jul/04braman.htm))

Some Muslim demonstrators allegedly carried photos of bin Laden and shouted pro-bin Laden slogans.

If we do not get out of our denial mode and act firmly against the extremist and anti-national elements, a 9/11 is waiting to happen in our homeland.

[Black_zero]

Where is the link? Hyderabad has extremist muslim population not Hindu extremists. And blasts was not in muslim majority area it was in a crowded place where there were Hindus and muslims , I guess 12 people killed were muslims and 22 were Hindus , tell your pakistani propaganda machines to at least give it a thought once than proving themselves dumb always.

Anyways your stupid pakistani reporter whose BS you have posted doesn't knows correct full form of SIMI.

Bin Laden's shadow in Hyderabad (http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/aug/26raman.htm)

During a visit to Hyderabad on July 31 and August 1,2007, I was told that the influence of the Lashkar-e-Tayiba and the Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami was so pervasive in the local Muslim community that many members of the community kept in their houses pictures of Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf and Osama bin Laden.

Many government servants also complained that the government was aware of this, but the political leadership lacked the will to act against the extremist elements in the local Muslim community.

This became evident subsequently in the attempted assault on Taslima Nasreen, the Bangladeshi writer, by some prominent leaders of the local Muslim community when she had gone to Hyderabad to address a meeting. The political leadership, which was hesitant to act against the Muslim leaders involved, played down the incident.

They have been systematically setting up sleeper cells in the local Muslim community since 1995 and also among the Muslims from Hyderabad working in the Gulf.

During the visit of President George Bush to India in March, 2006, Hyderabad was one of the cities which saw anti-US demonstrations by sections of the Muslim community. (Link:Why should Al Qaeda be interested in India? (http://in.rediff.com/news/2007/jul/04braman.htm))

Some Muslim demonstrators allegedly carried photos of bin Laden and shouted pro-bin Laden slogans.

If we do not get out of our denial mode and act firmly against the extremist and anti-national elements, a 9/11 is waiting to happen in our homeland.



bin laden in hyedrabad lol... :laugh4:
now Pakistan and USA should attack on india !!!:laugh4:
please do not do jokes..and not do propaganda.
indians always blame to Pakistan and bangladesh and other neighbour countires...whenever something happen wrong...
there is darkness under the Light...
indians talking about bin laden becasue they want USA support and doing propaganda...

[aviator]

bin laden in hyedrabad lol... :laugh4:
now Pakistan and USA should attack on india !!!:laugh4:
please do not do jokes..and not do propaganda.

Damn my mistake to whom I replied and wasted my time. Who said OBL is in hyderabad ? Do you have dreams while you are awake or do you post while you are asleep ?

[Black_zero]

Damn my mistake to whom I replied and wasted my time. Who said OBL is in hyderabad ? Do you have dreams while you are awake or do you post while you are asleep ?

calm down i just do a joke...read below lines in my above reply

[aryan]

India loses more lives to terror than any other country expect Iraq..

Further the bomb blasts of Hyderabad were similar to the ones in Delhi on 29th october 2005.
The fact is that Hyderabad was the bastion of the biggest Muslim kingdom in the world prior to India's independence and hitting it gives mileage to the Jehadis.

here is why?

The old quarter of Hyderabad, populated by a majority ultra orthodox muslims, is still backward in mindset harping over the glory of the days of the Nizam. Pakistan's ISI and the harkat ul jehadi al islami (HUji) have found the old city of Hyderabad as a fertile ground for recruiting jehadis especially so after 9/11, which gave an impetus to radicalisation.

The muslim middle class of hyderabad is largely impotent in front of the extremists belonging to the old city where the majlis e ittehadul muslimeen (MIM) rules over 1 lok sabha seat and 5 assembly constituencies.

ISI started recruiting mid 90's onwards but as the indian intel agencies got smarter the pakistani agencies started donning different guises and realising the porosity of the indo-bangladesh border started targeting it..

The fact that there is a massive and growing economic connection between hyderabad and bangladesh and that over the years many hyderabadi technicians, tradesmen etc have found part time employment in bangladesh. Small companies take up contracts in Dhaka for 6 months and send men there which makes infiltration and indoctrination easier.

The link between Hyderabad and bangladesh was further exposed when on Dussehra day a blast ripped through the office of the hyderabad police commissioner and the perpetrator who died was identified as a bangladeshi and this was the 1st time that the bangladeshi angle was aknowledged though it had been creeping up earlier as well.

The fact that though the saudi arabian king who earlier used to visit hyderabad as the nizam was their benefactor pre-oil days decided to give a miss to hyderabad when he visited whereas clinton and bush both visited hyderabad on their trip to India, and opened up consulates is proof of the importance of hyderabad.

Therefore it is an attractive target for the jehadis as it is both a booming city, gives a massive mileage to the jehadi viewpoint and the fact that Andhra police is largely Naxalite based and was largely unpreparedfor a terrorist strike..

Further the owner of omni explosives which manufactured the explosives is based on nagpur but the owner sohail hails from hyderabad, this is a clear indication of the penetration of international terror operatives in the form of local support.

The police have setup 7 special teams to identify and weed out sleeper cells from the state esp after the blasts since the sleeper cells were activated from Hyderabad, warangal, nalgonda, mahbubnagar by the operatives of the blast.

One of the main mastermind/operative/perpetrators has been identified as Shahid Bilal a bangladeshi member of Huji currently in pakistan also a hyderabadi man named mustafa has been picked for questioning.

All the fingers point to the fact that not only have the blasts been masterminded by foreign agencies but have included active co-operation of Indian muslims under their indoctrination and brainwashing.

No indian muslim will acknowledge that one of their own could have taken part which took such heavy toll of life incl those of muslims and no pakistani/bangladeshi will acknowledge that their agencies/people are involved in the blast frankly because it is insulting, humiliating etc. and also most of the people are ignorant. The agencies are supposed to be secretive the terrorists cannot be identified and they may actually be your neighbors who knows? they pride on being invisible. So to expect that a pakistani/bangladeshi/muslim will say yes my govt/people is/are involved in the blast is naivety.

The Pakistani agencies cannot see peace prevail in India i cannot say for sure for the people/govt but I generally believe that Pakistani people on the whole would like to see a better relationship with India. Same goes for India but fortunately/unfortunately speaking Indian intel sucks big time so does the propaganda machinery and also the media also is very impartial mostly. ISI is a billion times better than RAW in achieving its aim. End of discussion from my side..

factual source: Times news service(india)

[Maverick]

Every body should understand one thing that no organization are capable of doing things like this. I mean getting advance weapons , making bombs , planning attacks.

Always there are Governments behind these type of Organizations. and u can check out that every Organization is one way or another way linked and are based in neighbouring countries.

You would be unpleasantly surprised to find that it is actually Agencies and Organizations that can turn the tide of events in all countries, cause coups, change, install and remove govt.'s at will and make major political decisions that have far reaching national and international effects.



In majority of attacks in Indian cities .. Kashmiris are involved and Kashmiris are getting full support from Pakistan .

I think you guys blame Kasmiri's and Pakistan more then you should. As our foreign minister said after condolences that Indian govt. is the only one in the world that can use its sixth sense to blame Pakistan within hours of tragedy.



Doesnt Pakistani Government supports Kashmiris ? i know u will say yes .

Morally and politically yes!

[indianguy]

You would be unpleasantly surprised to find that it is actually Agencies and Organizations that can turn the tide of events in all countries, cause coups, change, install and remove govt.'s at will and make major political decisions that have far reaching national and international effects.





I think you guys blame Kasmiri's and Pakistan more then you should. As our foreign minister said after condolences that Indian govt. is the only one in the world that can use its sixth sense to blame Pakistan within hours of tragedy.





Morally and politically yes!

i think u didnt understand what i meant .. Organizations are always funded , trained and suppied latest weaponaries. Do u think that all these things are easier to get , what abt intelligence ?

Did u forget the attack on Indian Parliament ? Even the recent Hyderabad blast links goes to Dubai and from there to Pakistan and Bangladesh
You even know this that in current Pakistani Establishment , there are many ISI agents who are supporting even Taliban, so why cant Pakistan Establishment create problems in India?

[aryan]

I think you guys blame Kasmiri's and Pakistan more then you should. As our foreign minister said after condolences that Indian govt. is the only one in the world that can use its sixth sense to blame Pakistan within hours of tragedy.


yeah because believe it or not someone over there is involved. though more than kashmiris its pakistanis,bangladeshis and some indian fanatics that are involved in the terrorist activities happening in India..

[aviator]

I think you guys blame Kasmiri's and Pakistan more then you should. As our foreign minister said after condolences that Indian govt. is the only one in the world that can use its sixth sense to blame Pakistan within hours of tragedy.

True , Indian politicians should stop blaming pakistan all the time and concentrate more on tackling these issues , there is no use blaming pakistan , its like banging your head on the wall. Improve intelligence agencies so that one can know before the attacks and stop it rather than whine later.India needs to bring in some strict laws to prevent terror acts like TADA and POTA. If these terrorists acts are helped by Indian muslims then use help of moderate muslims for intelligence and directly kill all terrorists before they kill innocent people.

[perisan_eagle]

The reason there so bent on blaming pakistan might be because of there own intellegence failures to find the real culprits. The indians have a habit of blaming there neighbor but, miracalously this time they did the impossible. They managed to blame 2 different countries located at different sides of india at once :)

[aryan]

True , Indian politicians should stop blaming pakistan all the time and concentrate more on tackling these issues , there is no use blaming pakistan , its like banging your head on the wall. Improve intelligence agencies so that one can know before the attacks and stop it rather than whine later.India needs to bring in some strict laws to prevent terror acts like TADA and POTA. If these terrorists acts are helped by Indian muslims then use help of moderate muslims for intelligence and directly kill all terrorists before they kill innocent people.

First up IMHO
Seal the goddamn borders.
Overhaul RAW akin to the French Secret Service i.e.higher outsiders as well...
Execute all terrorists in Jail.
Closely monitor the activities of surrendered militants.
Infiltrate all terror outfits and take out their leaders.
Monitor foreign fundings to religious schools, fanatical organisations.
Be like the Israelis you kill one of ours we will kill ten of yours(terrorists of course..)
Be preventive rather than curative...

[perisan_eagle]

First up IMHO
Seal the goddamn borders.
Overhaul RAW akin to the French Secret Service i.e.higher outsiders as well...
Execute all terrorists in Jail.
Closely monitor the activities of surrendered militants.
Infiltrate all terror outfits and take out their leaders.
Monitor foreign fundings to religious schools, fanatical organisations.
Be like the Israelis you kill one of ours we will kill ten of yours(terrorists of course..)
Be preventive rather than curative...


So youd be willing to kill even more of your people? Dont forget the calateral damage, also for every 1 terrorist killed youll see 10 more :laugh4:

[indianguy]

Two who planted bombs in Hyderabad identified, HUJI role certain

New Delhi, Aug 28: Security agencies and police have been able to identify at least two men who are suspected to have planted the bombs that went off in Hyderabad on Saturday last.
Hyderabad blasts: In pics

Raids were taking place in various parts of Hyderabad to nab the duo who could have planted the bombs that were believed to have been assembled by Mohammad Sharifuddin, a Bangladeshi national, official sources said.

While Andhra Pradesh Police was tight-lipped about the developments, sources here said the role of Harkat-ul-Jehadi Islami (HUJI) was almost certain after Sharifuddin`s name cropped up during the investigations into the twin blasts.

Sharifuddin had extended support to HUJI and other Pakistan-based militant groups purely for monetary gains, sources said.

Sharifuddin is believed to have undertaken the task as per the order of HUJI commander Abdul Sahil Mohammed.

Throughout July and early August, Mohammad left dozens of Internet-chat messages for his Hyderabad operative, asking them to go ahead with the plans he had earlier authorised.

In a related development, senior Home ministry officials tonight took stock of the security situation in Hyderabad and the investigations into the twin blasts that left 43 people dead so far.

Sources said a serious view was taken about the preparedness of Andhra Pradesh Police despite repeated intelligence warnings about an impending terror attack.

Alarm clock tied to defused bomb bought locally

Andhra Police tonight found out that an alarm clock, which was tied to one of the bombs defused on the night of twin blasts on Saturday, was purchased from a city-based shop, police sources said.

The clock was bought from Prince Watch Company located in the city`s upmarket shopping area Abids, they said.

The bomb to which the clock was attached was recovered at Dilsukhnagar locality of Hyderabad. It was later defused, like two other bombs found in other localities on the same night when the blasts had rocked Lumbini Park open air auditorium and at a popular eatery at Kothi.

http://www.zeenews.com/articles.asp?rep=2&aid=391560&sid=NAT&sname=

[Maverick]

i think u didnt understand what i meant .. Organizations are always funded , trained and suppied latest weaponaries. Do u think that all these things are easier to get , what abt intelligence ?

In the beginning they are created, nurtured, funded, defended and sheltered. But most of the times these agencies (especially secret agencies) grow out of control of govt.'s. They become independent. Pakistan's ISI, America's CIA are well known examples of that, they even make or break govt.'s, local and international!



Did u forget the attack on Indian Parliament ? Even the recent Hyderabad blast links goes to Dubai and from there to Pakistan and Bangladesh

That is typical Indian response for internal failures, blame it on Pakistan....perhaps that makes all you Indian's happy. More bomb blasts take place in Pakistan then in India yet Pakistan never blames India....I hope one day Indian's mature enough to do the same and find the real source instead of just pointing at Pakistan every time yelling 'Guilty'!



You even know this that in current Pakistani Establishment , there are many ISI agents who are supporting even Taliban, so why cant Pakistan Establishment create problems in India?

ISI agents may be supporting certain elements which we consider Freedom Fighting Patriots, the US's definition of a Terrorist is:

1) Muslim
2) Has a beard (new ones may be clean shaven).
3) Has a firm believe in Islam and follows Islam.
4) Believes that US policies are unjust and unfair and fights against them (physically or even verbally).

My definition of terrorist is very very different to the one above and I actually consider a lot of American's to be the real Terrorists, and America to be a seriously rouge state.

And you are still missing the point here, if Kashmiri's are to be blamed for all the misdeeds in India why don't you guys go to the core of the problem, why are Kashmiri's behaving like they are?



yeah because believe it or not someone over there is involved. though more than kashmiris its pakistanis,bangladeshis and some indian fanatics that are involved in the terrorist activities happening in India..

It doesn't matter what you believe. Only the truth matters, or atleast used to matter. Now it comes down to personal likings and dislikings, I don't like a particular country I will blame it for all the ills in this world. That is absurd and childish. Responsible countries and their representatives do not go around blaming other countries without solid proof beyond doubt. It only goes to show that some of you Indians are not responsible and happy to blame Pakistan (and now even Bangladesh) for everything that goes wrong in India. Perhaps Pakistan and ISI were behind Salman Khan's killing of that antelope or gazelle or dear or whatever the hell it was, why not let Salman Khan go and blame Pakistan?

[RAAWI]

i can guarantee you that your media is your bigger enemy they are also sensless and blind how on earth during first hour of blast indian agencies were calling it its case of suji, muji bla bla bla and how they come to know about two certain person in two three hours and media is propagating these things, really some time i do realize that it seems to me a agenda only.

in both cases loss will be of poor or common man who is killed or innocent will be caught just to cool public down and to divert them to somthing else.

[aryan]

In the beginning they are created, nurtured, funded, defended and sheltered. But most of the times these agencies (especially secret agencies) grow out of control of govt.'s. They become independent. Pakistan's ISI, America's CIA are well known examples of that, they even make or break govt.'s, local and international!





That is typical Indian response for internal failures, blame it on Pakistan....perhaps that makes all you Indian's happy. More bomb blasts take place in Pakistan then in India yet Pakistan never blames India....I hope one day Indian's mature enough to do the same and find the real source instead of just pointing at Pakistan every time yelling 'Guilty'!

No are economic failures and govt failures are not blamed on them.
Terrorist attacks carried out by extremisits, fanatics such as those by Sikhs and Muslims have a Pakistani and Bangladeshi hand. Not accusing Pakistanis as such but yes there soil is used for terror activities.. Take it as a complement or take it as an insult.. that's up to you?

Indian govt is impotent esp now after Pakistan possesses nuclear weapons to cross border and destroy terrorists camps....

[quote
ISI agents may be supporting certain elements which we consider Freedom Fighting Patriots,

The same people who murder, rape, torture innocents...
The same guy who launch suicide attacks...
The same people who plant bombs to kill innocent public...
The same guys who have never read article 370, instrument of ascension, indo-pak accords, sheikh's speeches, and debacle of pakistani army during wars with India...

Well then Sir where were these people when the British was whooping our *** pre-1947...

Freedom fighter hahahahhaa they are terrorists and they are going to die and after they die they are going to hell.... islamic or not...


the US's definition of a Terrorist is:

1) Muslim
2) Has a beard (new ones may be clean shaven).
3) Has a firm believe in Islam and follows Islam.
4) Believes that US policies are unjust and unfair and fights against them (physically or even verbally).


Please point a link before accussing USA..
If that's the definition then why aren't bedouin arabs esp peninsular jailed?
Few maghrebis and mostly pakistani or afghanistani are implicated.. care to not point out why??



My definition of terrorist is very very different to the one above and I actually consider a lot of American's to be the real Terrorists, and America to be a seriously rouge state.

I beg to differ. There govt is selfish and greedy that does not equate to terrorism or being a rogue state.

1 question tomorrow if they give Pakistan 100 free F22 raptors you will come wagging your tail.....

So please don't give me hypocritical statements. If that truly was the case all of Islamic world would have severed ties with America but has that happened no? So you are wrong..


And you are still missing the point here, if Kashmiri's are to be blamed for all the misdeeds in India why don't you guys go to the core of the problem, why are Kashmiri's behaving like they are?


Goddamn it.. We know POK kashmiris, Pakistani and other foreign terrorists are responsible for these acts....


It doesn't matter what you believe. Only the truth matters, or atleast used to matter. Now it comes down to personal likings and dislikings, I don't like a particular country I will blame it for all the ills in this world. That is absurd and childish. Responsible countries and their representatives do not go around blaming other countries without solid proof beyond doubt. It only goes to show that some of you Indians are not responsible and happy to blame Pakistan (and now even Bangladesh) for everything that goes wrong in India.


Well my house was not completed on time I'm not blaming Pakistan am I?
so you are wrong..

Pakistani and Bangladeshi soil is used for terror activities in India... So yes parliament attacks, delhi bomb blasts, hyderabadi bomb blasts etc. they have had Pakistani and/or bangladeshi hand....



Perhaps Pakistan and ISI were behind Salman Khan's killing of that antelope or gazelle or dear or whatever the hell it was, why not let Salman Khan go and blame Pakistan?

Perhaps you think you are funny? perhaps what I think of you doesn't matter..

No Sir we have caught the culprit and we gonna blame him only.... Thanks... Why don't you come and confess if you really like salman??

[aryan]

So youd be willing to kill even more of your people? Dont forget the calateral damage, also for every 1 terrorist killed youll see 10 more :laugh4:

Parva nahi(I don't care).
Sometimes a minor poison is prescribed as an antidote to a greater poison.....
The fact is that once borders are sealed no way is you country or any other country going to create mischief in ours...

For every terrorist killed 10 innocents die than how can you support them??
You are an accomplice hence a terrorist too...

[indianguy]

Every one do have a different explanation of organizations who use violence by targetting innocents.

There was no terrorism in Kashmir before 1989 , but as soon as the soviets left Afghanistan , these Mujahadeens turned towards Kashmir to liberate it from India and majority of them who are killed by Indian forces are basically outsiders .. non Kashmiris .

This New kind of war was started by Americans weapons , Pakistani training and Saudi arabia's oil money against Soviets and now on this thing only American media is working day and night to show that Muslims are violent.

This new type of war is gaining grounds against India . to which many name Jihad . Jihad means to struggle but many ignorants name it Holy war. which is not the real meaning.
Pakistan always tried to make kashmir issue an International issue and ISI agents always recruits fighters on the name of religion and make them to do their dirty work of killing innocent people.
Kashmir issue is just a land dispute which is between India and Pakistan , which doesnt have anything to do with Islam .

If Jihad means holy war .. then its my duty to wage Jihad against all those who are against my motherland ..India.
Keep religion and land dispute side .

[techvipin]

We had intelligence that there shall be blasts in hyderabad. We even caught the guy who had brought bomb material from bangladesh and gave it to the terrorists on the orders of your ISI goons. But our b****** government did not let the RAW search and pursue and question all the suspects because that would have alienated the muslim community.Hence we missed them pigs by a whisker. But let me tell you ,we dont have water or oil flowing in our veins. We have been holding ourselves back from letting you have a taste of your medicine. We always and still believe in the sacredness of human life. But if you are hell bent on opening a market of human lives, than I promise, not just those who have ill will towards my motherland but also their progeny for the next 5 generations would not be able to live in peace on this planet. You want my life, and I will give you my life, but not for nothing

[Maverick]

We had intelligence that there shall be blasts in hyderabad. We even caught the guy who had brought bomb material from bangladesh and gave it to the terrorists on the orders of your ISI goons. But our b****** government did not let the RAW search and pursue and question all the suspects because that would have alienated the muslim community.Hence we missed them pigs by a whisker. But let me tell you ,we dont have water or oil flowing in our veins. We have been holding ourselves back from letting you have a taste of your medicine. We always and still believe in the sacredness of human life. But if you are hell bent on opening a market of human lives, than I promise, not just those who have ill will towards my motherland but also their progeny for the next 5 generations would not be able to live in peace on this planet. You want my life, and I will give you my life, but not for nothing

I'm sorry but I do not understand who you are talking to? Or perhaps you are reciting lines from a new Sunny Deol Movie (sure seems like it)!

[techvipin]

I'm sorry but I do not understand who you are talking to? Or perhaps you are reciting lines from a new Sunny Deol Movie (sure seems like it)!
Sunny deol movies aren't in english. And you will eventually find out what I am talking about. I need not tell you.

[Maverick]

Sunny deol movies aren't in english. And you will eventually find out what I am talking about. I need not tell you.

You know what mate.....I don't really understand who your problem is with. Is it with me, with some else, I do not know!

And Sunny's evergreen tough guy superman anti Pakistan remarks are a blast, which can easily be translated in to English by one with even a below average command of English! So I do not understand the bit about his movies not being in English either!

[techvipin]

You know what mate.....I don't really understand who your problem is with. Is it with me, with some else, I do not know!

And Sunny's evergreen tough guy superman anti Pakistan remarks are a blast, which can easily be translated in to English by one with even a below average command of English! So I do not understand the bit about his movies not being in English either!

Don't bounce off topic. The topic is 'Hyderabad blasts' that unwaveringly and inadvertently leads to pakistani involvement.i am not blaming the ordinary pakistani citizen who has been brainwashed with anti india poison-serum ,and probably no more even the pakistani government who's devil children have become stronger than them.Any sane guy knows what I am talking about and I need not detail.Just wait n watch.

[aryan]

I'm sorry but I do not understand who you are talking to? Or perhaps you are reciting lines from a new Sunny Deol Movie (sure seems like it)!

Saaien .. No talk on Sunny Deol!!!
Man you from Karachi, you ain't Punjabi. Yeah go to Lahore and speak ill of Jatts !
Better go to Karachi Grammar School and speak ill of my bro Raja Mohammad or go to the dreamland resort and speak ill of me!!!
And in Clifton and def col you don't wanna know!!

No Sunny Deol bashing!! LOL!!
were I was there during IIFA 07 in sheffield fm arena when people went (most were Pakis though) bonkers seeing the 3 Deols...

PS: Military forum and we are discussing Sunny Paaji!! hahahaha

[Maverick]

Don't bounce off topic. The topic is 'Hyderabad blasts' that unwaveringly and inadvertently leads to pakistani involvement.i am not blaming the ordinary pakistani citizen who has been brainwashed with anti india poison-serum ,and probably no more even the pakistani government who's devil children have become stronger than them.Any sane guy knows what I am talking about and I need not detail.Just wait n watch.

Dude there was a time when India was the focus of attention when any ill happened in Pakistan....it was vice versa in India. Thanks God we have grown out of that mentality, hopefully you guys too will grow out of it. Even if Pakistan does have a hand in those blasts I would first blame the Indian agencies for not being able to foil the plot. I still insist that Pakistan today has too many issues to focus on and hence cannot really focus on tit for tat terrorist acts.

[Maverick]

Saaien .. No talk on Sunny Deol!!!

Dont tell me you actually like that stupid moron who wants to portray his character as a Superman in each and every movie! I mean look at it yaar 1 punch and the other guys goes through a wall!



Man you from Karachi, you ain't Punjabi. Yeah go to Lahore and speak ill of Jatts !

But when did I speak ill of any cast?



Better go to Karachi Grammar School and speak ill of my bro Raja Mohammad or go to the dreamland resort and speak ill of me!!!
And in Clifton and def col you don't wanna know!!

Now have I ever spoken ill of you on the forum? If not then why the hell would I go anywhere to speak ill of you or your friends?

And by the way......you too have no idea who I am so the same applies on your friend and you to try and speak ill of me in Karachi!



No Sunny Deol bashing!! LOL!!

Man that guy is just too much....Now I can't watch any Indian movie in which he stars because of his stupid, senseless power. Honestly in English movies there is atleast a reason to super human strength but for Sunny, in all his movies, it is god gifted.....Even the great Amit ji was not like that!



were I was there during IIFA 07 in sheffield fm arena when people went (most were Pakis though) bonkers seeing the 3 Deols...

Actually I'm sure they were there to see the ladies that must have been a part of that function. Who the hell wants to see the 2 Deols? Dharmendra ofcourse is a legend and I myself respect and like his movies.....even Bobby is ok. Sunny, I can't stand the guys mate!



PS: Military forum and we are discussing Sunny Paaji!! hahahaha

Oh haven't you watched the Movie in which Sunny Deol single handedly kills a complete team of highly trained Pakistani commandos ;)?

:roflmao3::roflmao3:

[aryan]

Dont tell me you actually like that stupid moron who wants to portray his character as a Superman in each and every movie! I mean look at it yaar 1 punch and the other guys goes through a wall!


Yo! Man I love the fellah!!
Its bollywood not hollywood so.... its entertaining and when go see his movies I get my Paisa vasool!!

Lotsa Paki-bashing but then freedom of expression mixed with action mixed with dialogues is irresistible...

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But when did I speak ill of any cast?


Movie cast? or caste??

Deol is a Sikh jatt, I take offence so do his other fan followers in North India..



Now have I ever spoken ill of you on the forum? If not then why the hell would I go anywhere to speak ill of you or your friends?


It was a retort.. laced with overt sarcasm.. Did I seriously expect you do that? Nope...


And by the way......you too have no idea who I am so the same applies on your friend and you to try and speak ill of me in Karachi!


I have a few Baloch(tribal leaders kids), Sindhi(Landowners kids) and Mohajir(MQM leaders kids) friends.. So if you are either I am very sure that I can prevail.. but lets kill this topic right now ! k?


Man that guy is just too much....Now I can't watch any Indian movie in which he stars because of his stupid, senseless power. Honestly in English movies there is atleast a reason to super human strength but for Sunny, in all his movies, it is god gifted.....Even the great Amit ji was not like that!


See I am indian and though I prefer watching Hollywood to Bollywood but then I enjoy 'em both when for oh wtf it could happen and the other **** man that ain't never gonna happen... So its like watching CSI and Ugly Betty .. One kinda activates your mind the other kinda helps you unwind...




Actually I'm sure they were there to see the ladies that must have been a part of that function. Who the hell wants to see the 2 Deols? Dharmendra ofcourse is a legend and I myself respect and like his movies.....even Bobby is ok. Sunny, I can't stand the guys mate!


Man there were as many guys as girls and pakis outnumbered indians 3:1...
So dunno...


Oh haven't you watched the Movie in which Sunny Deol single handedly kills a complete team of highly trained Pakistani commandos ;)?


nah have to watch it...

The folks go crazy when he does it...

Don't get me started on DULLAH JATT and the Pashto movies man they are too damn good... ahahahah :roflmao3:

[Maverick]

Yo! Man I love the fellah!!
Its bollywood not hollywood so.... its entertaining and when go see his movies I get my Paisa vasool!!

Lotsa Paki-bashing but then freedom of expression mixed with action mixed with dialogues is irresistible...

Mate I'm terribly disappointed in you, I mean you could have done better then that idiot Sunny Deol.



Movie cast? or caste??

caste



Deol is a Sikh jatt, I take offence so do his other fan followers in North India..

But I never said anything against Sikhs or Juts now did I? I am against the dude's superhuman strength display in all his movies which take the entertainment away and turn the movie into an idiotically funny one. But for fun I'd rather watch a movie by my much beloved comedy actor, I can't remember his name.....you know the short stocky dark dude with curly hair who is a great comedian?



It was a retort.. laced with overt sarcasm.. Did I seriously expect you do that? Nope...

It must have been overt cause I failed to detect any sarcasm at all.



I have a few Baloch(tribal leaders kids), Sindhi(Landowners kids) and Mohajir(MQM leaders kids) friends.. So if you are either I am very sure that I can prevail.. but lets kill this topic right now ! k?

Do you honestly think that a person who was actually born in a political family with a highly political and active background would be scared? I've told you before and I will tell you again, you my friend, have no idea which family I belong to :). And I too know this is off topic ;)



See I am indian and though I prefer watching Hollywood to Bollywood but then I enjoy 'em both when for oh wtf it could happen and the other **** man that ain't never gonna happen... So its like watching CSI and Ugly Betty .. One kinda activates your mind the other kinda helps you unwind...

I remember the good old days when I used to watch Indian movies and Pakistani dramas with my friends and cousin in Australia just because I would get so bloody home sick. But even then we were mostly interested in watching the desi chicks. Ofcourse good stories were always a bonus :)



Man there were as many guys as girls and pakis outnumbered indians 3:1...
So dunno...

Hmm....I wonder why......was Shilpa there too ;) ???



nah have to watch it...

The folks go crazy when he does it...

Yeah I can imagine, 1 punch single man army!



Don't get me started on DULLAH JATT and the Pashto movies man they are too damn good... ahahahah :roflmao3:

Oh yeah? I too watch them just to have a good laugh every now and then, mostly comedy (ironic that they are not meant to be comedy at all) and vulgarity rules.

[techvipin]

Sorry guys whatever I said yesterday ,was drunk. And believe me it was totally indigenous ,not a sunny deol scorcher. But probably ,one expresses oneself to the full when he is drunk and I seem to have done the same.

[aryan]

Mate I'm terribly disappointed in you, I mean you could have done better then that idiot Sunny Deol.


Aww. thanks for the compliment man!!




caste


I knew it just playin around,,



But I never said anything against Sikhs or Juts now did I? I am against the dude's superhuman strength display in all his movies which take the entertainment away and turn the movie into an idiotically funny one. But for fun I'd rather watch a movie by my much beloved comedy actor, I can't remember his name.....you know the short stocky dark dude with curly hair who is a great comedian?


Nah man the sheer impossibility of the task is what I love....
I mean Bollywood is for people who just don't wanna think. I mean at the end of a tiring day what would I watch Fahrenheit 9/11 or something like Sunny movie? Hence his popularity for the action crazy rural Indian masses...




It must have been overt cause I failed to detect any sarcasm at all.


Poor you...



Do you honestly think that a person who was actually born in a political family with a highly political and active background would be scared? I've told you before and I will tell you again, you my friend, have no idea which family I belong to :). And I too know this is off topic ;)


Obviously he would be more scared!! He has got more to lose though...


I remember the good old days when I used to watch Indian movies and Pakistani dramas with my friends and cousin in Australia just because I would get so bloody home sick. But even then we were mostly interested in watching the desi chicks. Ofcourse good stories were always a bonus :)


A good story is a turn off for me honestly if I am watching a bollywood movie...


Hmm....I wonder why......was Shilpa there too ;) ???


Honestly Dia Mirza and Katrina Kaif were hotter on that day...


Yeah I can imagine, 1 punch single man army!


That's better than Transformers c'mon...


Oh yeah? I too watch them just to have a good laugh every now and then, mostly comedy (ironic that they are not meant to be comedy at all) and vulgarity rules.

They are representative of the times. I mean vulgarity for others not for Urban Indians.. I mean our social fabric whether one likes it or not has become much more westernized. Live-in relationships, women drinking and clubbing till wee hours of the morning are acceptable today..
Delhi for eg is the 3rd city to have a Ministry of Sound and has one of the world's best nightclub Elevate.. so ... what you might find vulgar I might not...

[aryan]

Dude there was a time when India was the focus of attention when any ill happened in Pakistan....it was vice versa in India.
Thanks God we have grown out of that mentality, hopefully you guys too will grow out of it.


Till 1984 nothing was blamed on Pakistan..Starting with khalistan where Khalistan supported the Sikh independence, then Kashmir and now Pan-India...

I mean no wonder but you guys have realized that the Shia-sunni fight, Anti-non muslim religion outfits, Waziristan stuggle, Pukhtunwa struggle and Balochistan struggle and all the Mujhaideen and Talibans (now without a job)whether home grown or not. can and are behind the cause..

Any attack in Sindh is either by Mohajirs, balochs,etc..
Balochistan --> balochis
NWFP, FATA , PATA --> muhjaideen, pashtun freedom fighters/terrorists etc..
KASHMIr --> taliban ( I am not really sure though)
Punjab --> Shia/sunni and anti-non muslim people...

Even if Pakistan does have a hand in those blasts I would first blame the Indian agencies for not being able to foil the plot. I still insist that Pakistan today has too many issues to focus on and hence cannot really focus on tit for tat terrorist acts.

Honestly I would like to see RAW becoming a tenth as capable as ISI in infiltrating and intel gathering.....

Yes you are right Indians should have foiled the blast...

India can only grow out of this mentality if Indians doing this our caught and esp who have no outside link of the country, which is highly unlikely at present.
Though I feel naxalites/others attack govt personnel where as foreign supported terrorists attack more innocents as it happened in US, Israel, Pakistan too, Uk..... and therefore you can find out who did what...

[indianguy]

A year after Hyderabad blast, wounds still wide open



User Rating: / 0 Saturday, 17 May 2008


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Hyderabad, May 17: The marble platform of the 17th century Mecca Masjid is still lying broken in the mosque courtyard, a grim reminder of the bomb blast that killed nine people during Friday prayers exactly a year ago.
The police are yet to make any arrest for the terror attack of May 18, 2007, that occurred at the mosque a few yards from Charminar, the symbol of Hyderabad.

Subsequent police firing on protesters nearby killed five more people.

It was the first major terror attack in the 400-year-old city, which then witnessed twin blasts August 25, 2007 at a park and an eatery, killing 43 people.

The first bomb, an Improvised Explosive Device (IED), went off in the courtyard, as the devotees were about to complete the Friday prayers around 1.10 p.m. Thousands, offering prayers at one of the largest mosques in the country, ran in panic.

Riyaz Khan, 12, still shudders when he recalls the dreadful events of that day. He lost his father Yousuf Khan and uncle Shafeeq-ur-Rehman in the blast. It was a double tragedy for the family as the two brothers were to offer 'Namaz-e-Janaza' of their relative whose body they had carried to the mosque earlier.

'I was a little distance from the scene of the blast. People were running in panic. I stopped to have a look at those lying in the pool of blood and I was shocked to find my father and uncle among the dead,' said Riyaz.

Yousuf and his brother, both rickshaw-pullers, were the only bread earners for their families, who are today struggling to survive. Their widows, recently given jobs of sweeper and attendant at a government-run hospital, are trying to pick up the threads of life and are struggling to bring up their four children.

Zainab Begum still keeps breaking down over the loss of her son Mohammed Saleem in police firing while trying to fetch medicines for her. Afroz, the youngest son of Saleem, still can't understand why his grandmother breaks down on seeing his father's photograph. The four-year-old boy still thinks that his father is in Dubai and will return one day.

Syed Tahir Ali can never forget the black day when his 19-year-old son Syed Adil Ali fell to police bullets while returning home after handing over a lunch box to his brothers, who work at a shop near Charminar.

'The innocents fell to police bullets. I can't understand why police target only the innocents,' said Tahir Ali.

As for the police, they admit the dozens picked after the blast had no direct involvement and the real culprits are still at large.

The police suspect the Bangladesh-based Harkatul Jihad-e-Islami (HuJI) is behind the blast, but are yet to find evidence against the outfit.

Though the state government had ordered a probe by the Central Bureau of Investigations (CBI), the investigators are yet to pinpoint those involved. CBI is yet to file a charge sheet in the case.

State Home Minister K. Jana Reddy recently told the state legislature that not a single person was arrested in connection with the three blasts in 2007. He said 97 people suspected of carrying out Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) activities were picked up for questioning, but 42 were let off subsequently. The remaining including some Bangladeshis were detained for passport related crimes.

http://www.siasat.com/english/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=267717&Itemid=79&cattitle=Hyderabad

[indianguy]

Mecca blast victims angry with government

Radhika Iyer
Sunday, May 18, 2008 (Hyderabad)
On May 18 2007, sixteen people were killed and more than 100 were injured in a blast, soon after they finished prayers at Hyderabad's Mecca Masjid.

Those who have suffered the blast say that they are angered and pained that those responsible for the horrific crime are yet to be booked or even identified.

Riaz Khan, blast victim's son, says it is ironic that he is frisked each time he goes to the Mecca Masjid in Hyderabad to read prayers. The 20-year-old says, all that he carries with him, are memories of his dear father who was killed in the bomb blast on May 18 last year.

''I would perhaps be consoled if at least the real culprit was arrested. It makes me cry whenever I come here,'' said Riaz Khan.

Mumtaz and Mehfuz say they have made a deal with God that they will enter the mosque only when their 10-year-old son Shaibaz fully recovers from his leg injury.

''I am so angered that the men who are responsible for this blast are freely walking and my innocent little son is unable to walk,'' said Mumtaz Begum, victim of bomb blast.

Soon after the Mecca Masjid blast, fingers of suspicion were pointed at Huji's Shahid alias Bilal.

There were reports of his death in Karachi few months ago. Sources in the police say, the case may be technically open but not the investigation, which is why perhaps not a single arrest has been made.

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080050231

[indianguy]

Majeed finally walks out of prison in to the waiting arms of family



User Rating: / 3 Saturday, 21 June 2008


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Hyderabad, June 21 : Abdul Majeed, the younger brother of terror suspect Abdul Shahed alias Bilal had an emotional reunion with his family when he stepped out of Charlapally jail in the outskirts of Hyderabad on Friday morning after spending nearly nine months in prison.

Abdul Majeed was released by the authorities two days after the Andhra Pradesh High Court had granted him bail on two sureties of Rs 20,000 each and asked him to mark his presence once in a week at a city police station.

Abdul Wahed, Majeed's father said that the release was delayed because it took time for him to arrange the money for surety.

As soon as Abdul Majeed came out of the prison, his waiting family members and relatives took him away to their home in old city. A visibly happy Abdul Wahed said, "We are thankful to Allah for his mercy that my son could survive all this trauma and come out of jail".

Expressing his happiness over the release of Abdul Majeed on bail, Lateef Mohammed Khan, general secretary of AP Civil Liberties Monitoring Committee said that with this 18 of the thirty youth arrested in the aftermath of last year's blasts in Hyderabad have come out of the prison.

APCLMC has been waging a battle both at the legal and political level for justice with the arrested youth. "The charges leveled against these youth are baseless and fictitious. There arrest was wrong and police booked false cases to save its face", he said.

None of the 30 arrested persons were charged in connection with the bomb blasts in Mecca Masjid, Lumbini Park and Gokul Chat in which more than 50 people were killed. Instead they were booked in different cases including attempt to murder, attack on police, criminal conspiracy and possessing objectionable material.

Abdul Majeed was grilled by the police about his elder brother Shahed's whereabouts and his possible links with the terrorist acts in Hyderabad and other places in the country. He was also subject to Narco analysis test but he could not provide any worthwhile information to the police.

His family on the other hand alleged that Majeed was subjected to third degree torture by the police for a week before his arrest was declared.

Police say Abdul Shahed alias Bilal was a key operative of Laskhar-e-Tayyaba and Bangladesh based Harkatul Jehad-e-Islami and was shuttling between India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. His name figured in the suicide bomb blast in police Task Force office in Hyderabad on October 12, 2005. Another brother of Shahed, Abdul Zahed was arrested on the charges of helping in the attack and he is facing trial along with six others. The police has also named Shahed as a prime suspect in the blast in Mecca Masjid on May 18 last year and twin blast in Lumbini Park and Gokul Chat on August 25. More than 50 people were killed in those incidents.

While his family has expressed its ignorance about Shahed's location and his activities, some media reports during last few months have claimed that Shahed was shot dead by unknown persons in Pakistnai city of Karachi.

http://www.siasat.com/english/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=276656&Itemid=79&cattitle=Hyderabad

[indianguy]

Mecca blast: Kaleem, 4 others freed
24 Jul 2008, 0213 hrs IST,TNN



HYDERABAD: The Mecca Masjid bomb blast case received a major set back when the Seventh Additional Metropolitan Sessions Court acquitted five youths on Tuesday who were charged with conspiracy to carry out Jehadi activities in the city.

The Special Investigation team of the city police had arrested an MBA student, Shaik Abdul Kaleem, 20, resident of Moosarambagh a month after a powerful bomb exploded in the historic mosque soon after the Friday prayer on July 6, 2007.

Kaleem is a brother of Shaik Abdul Amjad alias Khaja who is a strong suspect in the 2007 Hyderabad serial blasts and wanted by the Interpol.

Kaleem was charged with impersonation. The police had said he used forged documents to obtain SIM cards to conceal the communication of the alleged terrorists and their identity.

The SIT registered a case in Cr.No.75/2007 of CCS and later arrested other Muslim youths, Abdul Raoof of Saidabad, Shujauddin of Moosarambagh, Mohammed Sahil and Mohammed Fasiuddin of Saleem Nagar Colony in Malakpet.

The SIT officers said that Kaleem had obtained a Hutch cellular SIM card connection 9885263560 by furnishing a forged driving license in the name of B. Vinay Venkatesh of Vanasthalipuram.

The purpose of obtaining the SIM card was to help Khaja and another brother Abdul Khader, who is accused of running a terror network from Bangladesh.

In spite of months of interrogation during which the accused were subjected to several narco analysis tests the prosecution failed miserably to establish the charges against Kaleem and four others in the Masjid blast case.
Though the court has acquitted Kaleem, he is still in Cherlapally prison for technical reasons.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Mecca_blast_Kaleem_4_others_freed/articleshow/3271986.cms

[indianguy]

Hyderabad blasts: Police blame activist
Uma Sudhir
Tuesday, August 05, 2008, (Hyderabad)
In Hyderabad, it's the same story. It has been a year since the blasts and there is little progress in the investigations.

But what the Hyderabad Police have done is to name a prominent civil rights activist who questioned the illegal detention and torture of Muslim youth as one of the conspirators in a case.

The move has shocked the human rights groups.

After the Mecca Masjid blasts in May last year, Lateef Mohd Khan was the most vocal among civil rights activists to protest against the illegal detention, torture and arrest of several Muslim youth in Hyderabad.

The police have now named him also as accused in a case of criminal conspiracy and waging war against the state.

"We don't know of a single instance that he has gone outside the law. Now to put several cases against him is intimidation and trying to silence him," says Nirmala Gopalakrishnan, member, Fact-finding Committee.

The case registered in June 2007 was against 21 Muslim youths. Five of them were acquitted recently for lack of evidence. Lateef Khan's name is among 42 new people included in the chargesheet submitted by the police to the court.

"We book them or take action against them when we see that the intention to commit that offence is there," says B P Rao, Police Commissioner, Hyderabad.

Activists point out that Lateef Khan along with activists Teesta Setalva and Harsh Mander was instrumental in filing a first-of-its-kind court case demanding that innocent youths wrongly implicated should be paid compensation by the police.

So is this an attempt to suppress voices that question?

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080060141&ch=633535729482772500

Now this is really sick to name Lateef Khan in the chargesheet by police ..

[indianguy]

Hyderabad blasts: A year on, a community still stigmatised
Uma Sudhir
Monday, August 25, 2008, (Hyderabad)
On Monday, it will be one year after the twin blasts in Hyderabad that killed 45 people. And even as it mourns the victims, the city played host to a people's tribunal to say, we want the guilty punished but don't make innocents pay the price for belonging to a particular community.

A mother from Gujarat remembers her son and says, "My son was innocent. He used to teach Quran to feed his family and widowed mother." Similarly, a father from Maharashtra has this to say when it comes to terrorism - "It is a dangerous time. We have to crush the head of this snake as soon as possible, so that we can all live in peace."

A people's tribunal in Hyderabad has been set up to decide on the alleged atrocities committed against the minority community in the name of fighting terrorism. And it hears voices, not just of alleged victimisation and violation of law by the authorities, but of living in the shadow of fear and distrust.

"Lot of boys have not come because the police went to their houses and said why are you going to this tribunal to depose," said Zaheeruddin Ali Khan, Managing Editor, Siasat.

"There is a growing communalisation of minds in India. It is not confined just to the police, but in the judiciary, bureaucracy, there is a hatred building up against the minorities," said Shabnam Hashmi, a social activist.

If there is a terror plan to break the county, it is probably happening. Not just because of bomb blasts but because there is another kind of time bomb ticking.

With the police not getting a breakthrough, an entire community is feeling stigmatised and alienated from the mainstream.


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Hyderabad blasts probe: Clues from Mumbai?
NDTV Correspondent
Tuesday, October 07, 2008, (Hyderabad)
A team of investigators from Hyderabad are expected to arrive in Mumbai to verify claims made by the Mumbai police in connection with the Hyderabad blasts.

The Mumbai police had on Monday said that among the men they have arrested are those involved in the Hyderabad blasts of 2007 in Lumbini Park and Gokul chat.

This is the first lead in the Hyderabad blasts in which so far the Hyderbad police have had no breakthroughs. The Hyderabad police had arrested some men but had to let them off for want of evidence.

Now, the Hyderabad police team will visit the Mumbai police who have claimed to have made breakthroughs in the blast case.

Mumbai police claim to have arrested bomb planters of Lumbini Park, Dilkush Nagar.

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Hyderabad blasts: no clue on locals’ role

Staff Reporter
HYDERABAD: Hyderabad police are not yet sure if the Indian Mujahideen (IM) terrorist module that was busted by Mumbai police on Monday took the help of any locals in carrying out the Hyderabad twin blasts.

Twenty members of the terrorist outfit IM, which was allegedly responsible for several terror strikes across the country, including the explosions at Lumbini Park and Gokul Chat last year, were arrested by Mumbai police. They announced that while Mohammed Saddik Shaikh conspired to trigger blasts, Riyaz Bhatkal, Aneeq Sayeed and Akbar planted bombs at Gokul Chat, Lumbini Park and near a foot-over-bridge at Dilsukhnagar respectively.

While the Improvised Explosive Device at Dilsukhnagar failed to explode, the other two went off almost simultaneously killing over 40 persons.

Incidentally, all the four accused are not from Hyderabad. This baffled the police who had been thinking that some locals directly or indirectly were involved in the deadly terror attack.

Except Shaikh, stated to be a friend of Mujahid, who was shot dead by a Gujarat police team when a mob tried to prevent the arrest of Moulana Naseeruddin in 2004 before DGP office here, others have no connection to Hyderabad. “We are not yet sure how close was Shaikh to Mujahid; they knew each other well since both hailed from Azamgarh of Uttar Pradesh,” police sources said. Originally from Azamgarh, Mujahid’s family settled in Hyderabad two decades ago.

Police learnt that blasts in Jaipur were carried out by members of IM belonging to New Delhi. The accused went to Delhi in buses carrying readymade bombs, planted them at select places and returned to Delhi by train.

http://www.hindu.com/2008/10/07/stories/2008100750450100.htm

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Andhra court acquits mosque blast accused
Uma Sudhir

Friday, November 07, 2008, (Hyderabad)
In a huge embarrassment for the Hyderabad Police, a court acquitted those whom the police had accused of bringing in RDX in the city before the Mecca Masjid blasts.

Among them is Syed Imran who has been acquitted after spending 17 months in jail. The third year engineering student was among the 15 people accused of conspiring to bring 10 kg RDX before the Mecca Masjid blasts in May last year.

"I don't know where all this RDX talk came from. They have lodged a conspiracy case on us," he said.

The police had said Imran's uncle Shoeb Jagirdar from Jalna had brought the RDX and it was stored in an one-room tenement in Bowenpally area of Secunderabad.

"Now I am acquitted. So people believe that I am innocent. But the police tries to project as if it is because there was not enough evidence. I would say there was no evidence at all," said Shoeb.

The Hyderabad Police have reason to be embarrassed even as the investigating authorities have made no breakthrough either in the Mecca Masjid blast case nor the Hyderabad twin blasts in August last year.

"There were some versions that RDX was brought from outside the country and stored here. But we never recovered any RDX. That is a fact," said Prasada Rao, Police Commissioner, Hyderabad.

Those acquitted point out that just like no Weapons of Mass Destruction were found in Iraq, so is the case here. The 10 kg RDX that the Hyderabad Police claimed was brought into the city has not been found so far.

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080071683&ch=11/7/2008%202:32:00%20PM

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Andhra police closer to cracking Hyderabad twin blasts
7 Nov 2008, 2046 hrs IST, PTI



HYDERABAD: Andhra Pradesh Police on Friday said they have got vital clues in the deadly twin blasts case last year in the city and were
investigating the role of suspected Indian Mujahideen members arrested by Mumbai Police recently.

"We have got certain clues in the twin blasts case. Some of the members of Indian Mujahideen (IM) arrested by Mumbai Police are involved in these blasts," DGP SSP Yadav told reporters.

"We are in the process of bringing them (IM members) to Hyderabad, once investigations by Mumbai Police is over," Yadav said.

Replying to a query whether Sadhvi Pragya Thakur, who was recently arrested for her alleged involvement in Malegaon blasts had any links in the Mecca Masjid blasts here last year, Yadav said the AP Police has no such information so far.

Brushing aside allegations that AP Police had not arrested the main accused in the Vatoli incident in Adilabad district where six persons of a family belonging to a minority community were burnt alive last month, Yadav said they had completed the investigations into Vatoli incident.

"We have arrested nine persons after thorough probe. We have investigated the Vatoli case. Those arrested are the real criminals," he said.

Even the National Commission for Minorities (NCM) has appreciated the AP Police for proper probing of the case and also for appropriate handling of the situation in Bhainsa after communal clashes broke out there, he said.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Police_get_clues_in_Hyderabad_blasts/articleshow/3686592.cms

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AP to compensate Muslim youth wrongfully booked
15 Nov 2008, 0416 hrs IST, TNN


The AP government has decided to extend financial aid to Muslim youth — who were booked for terror activities but later found innocent by courts.


This is in addition to the youth picked up by cops but no chargesheet was filed. AP minority affairs and energy minister Shabbir Ali said, ‘‘We had earlier decided to help rehabilitate minority youth picked up by cops and released later. Now we thought why leave out youth who are acquitted by courts.’’

The rehabilitation package includes a grant of Rs 30,000 that will be given to each acquitted youth.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/AP_to_compensate_Muslim_youth_wrongfully_booked/articleshow/3715341.cms

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Mecca Masjid probe: Muslim bodies for quashing cases against their youth
Uma Sudhir
Monday, November 17, 2008, (Hyderabad)

The Hyderabad police has already been embarrassed with the cases it booked against terror suspects, not being proved in court. So, it is keeping a safe distance from claims linking Sadhvi Pragya and Lt Col Purohit to the Mecca Masjid blast case. (Watch)

Muslim groups however, see this as a chance to vindicate fingers pointed towards the community. They want related cases booked against Muslim youth to be quashed. Some 120 Muslim youth in Hyderabad were booked under various cases relating to terror and bomb blasts in the city.

Local Muslim groups want the Andhra Pradesh police to seek custody of Pragya Singh and Lt Col Shrikant Purohit, with reports suggesting that the suspects in the Malegaon bomb blasts, were also possibly involved in the Mecca Masjid blast case on May 18 last year.

The Mecca Masjid bomb blast happens to be a particularly emotional issue for residents in Hyderabad. The Muslim groups allege that a SIM card found along with the unexploded bomb belonged to a yoga teacher, Rajashree, said to be a close follower of Pragya.

"The Andhra Pradesh government and Hyderabad police have to take this very seriously. Earlier they were blaming Muslim groups,'' said Amanullah Khan, Leader, MBT.

The Hyderabad police commissioner however, says that the Maharashtra ATS has not shared any information that could link the Malegaon blast accused to the Mecca Masjid case. If there is any suspected link, it is the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) that will have to seek custody for questioning.

"RDX issue in the Mecca Masjid blast case. The blast and the unexploded device case have been handed over to the CBI. They are investigating,'' said Prasada Rao, Police Commissioner, Hyderabad.

The Hyderabad police had booked cases against Shoaib Jagirdar, a local youth Imran and others, alleging a conspiracy to bring in 10 kg RDX into the city. Part of the RDX was allegedly used in the Mecca Masjid blast case. The accused were acquitted by a local court earlier this month. As for the remaining RDX, it has not been found till date.

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17 acquitted in Mecca Masjid blast case

Hyderabad (PTI): Seventeen people have been acquitted in connection with the 2007 Mecca Masjid blast.

All the accused were acquitted by the Seventh Additional Metropolitan sessions judge for lack of evidence on Wednesday.

The court found no incriminating evidence against them barring their confessional statements and evidence of the police officials.

Earlier, the court had acquitted four persons, including one Shoaib Jagirdar from Jalna of Maharashtra, in the same case.

The police had filed a chargesheet against 21 people on charges of conspiring to wage a war against the state and transporting explosive substances.

Nine people were killed and several others injured in a bomb blast triggered in the historic Mecca Masjid in Hyderabad in May 2007.

http://www.hinduonnet.com/holnus/002200901011611.htm



If these youths are not culprits then who are the culprits ?