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defcon
08-04-2006, 07:51 PM
The Warning System contain rough points to be given to users who violate the rules and the contact forum is a place for users to appeal ... for everything without having the need to call the mods / staff out in public. Contact forum is a private place, regular users will not be able to see your thread.

Please take a look at these and tell me what you think about them.

stunnerzinc
08-04-2006, 07:57 PM
Great job. Just make sure that guests can post in that section, so that they can complain about an unfair warning/ban. Also, remove the super-mods ability to delete posts from that section. Also, the word @ss has been censored. Can you remove that, please. It censors ass from words like m***ive, ******inate, and stuff.

BTW, when will the new mods and supermods be appointed?

defcon
08-04-2006, 08:02 PM
The problem with guests posting is that they won't be able to view their thread again, since they're not logged on. In the Contact Administrator section, all members, mod+supermod included have the same permission/setting as regular users.

When in doubt, send an email to support @ irandefence [dot] net

NEWUSER
08-04-2006, 08:05 PM
Please take a look at these and tell me what you think about them.

:confused:

The warning system is going to keep Admins, sMods, and Mods very busy, and many posts will end-up unnoticed because the system is very complex and somewhat nuisance.

Is there a reason you made it like that?

stunnerzinc
08-04-2006, 08:07 PM
:confused:

The warning system is going to keep Admins, sMods, and Mods very busy, and many posts will end-up unnoticed because the system is very complex and somewhat nuisance.

Is there a reason you made it like that?
Nah, it's cool. There are around 500 posts a day on ID, and there used to be around 12 mods. They can take care of it.

defcon
08-04-2006, 08:08 PM
It will take time to get used to, but once the mod understand the system, it will be simple. It is the same as removing the post, maybe take less time than that. Once the point is given, the rest is automated by the forum from banning to removing the days.

This system is put up to allow the members to know what they're doing wrong without having the need to explain to them along with keeping the moderators in check with their forum-ability.

Yoni45
08-04-2006, 08:13 PM
Heey, well done... ^^

One thing, the 'spamming' or 'flooding' point should be clarified. Sometimes the forum tends to double or triple post threads or posts (likely due to accidentally clicking the 'Post' button more than once)...

NEWUSER
08-04-2006, 08:14 PM
It will take time to get used to, but once the mod understand the system, it will be simple. It is the same as removing the post, maybe take less time than that. Once the point is given, the rest is automated by the forum from banning to removing the days.

This system is put up to allow the members to know what they're doing wrong without having the need to explain to them along with keeping the moderators in check with their forum-ability.

Gotcha... Good work.. :)

Soroush
08-04-2006, 08:20 PM
I hope we still have a chance to delete/move threads when they post in this section because what if somebody just wants to turn like an idiot and start spamming/flaming the whole forum and they also end up doing it on that section.

defcon
08-04-2006, 08:21 PM
Of course, moderators will still have the ability to remove posts

Soroush
08-04-2006, 08:23 PM
Of course, moderators will still have the ability to remove posts

will the moving thread also be processed because just in case of flaming/accidental post.

TankHunter
08-04-2006, 08:28 PM
So the mods can or cannot pull threads/posts in the contact admin/staff forums?

stunnerzinc
08-04-2006, 08:30 PM
Defcon, please don't give the mods/supermods the ability to delete threads. What you can do is, create a trash forum, and move all the spam and lame posts there, so ONLY an admin can first look at them before deleting.

Soroush
08-04-2006, 08:35 PM
Defcon, please don't give the mods/supermods the ability to delete threads. What you can do is, create a trash forum, and move all the spam and lame posts there, so ONLY an admin can first look at them before deleting.

who gives you the right to decide, what happens if you got banned and you ended up making new accounts so you can spam that section, as super-mods me, Mr.Perfect, and attitude are against this!.

defcon we also need the forum for mods back, we have alot to discuss.

stunnerzinc
08-04-2006, 08:45 PM
who gives you the right to decide, what happens if you got banned and you ended up making new accounts so you can spam that section, as super-mods me, Mr.Perfect, and attitude are against this!.

defcon we also need the forum for mods back, we have alot to discuss.
1. You're not a super mod.
2. You abused your powers a LOT.
3. You flamed people and you still remained as a mod.
4. You never gave a reason for banning people and when they asked you a reson, you flamed them.
5. Who gives me the right to decide? Defcon is open to suggestions.
6. I told Mr.Perfect why I created my account and asked him to ban it (used it to PM Defcon).
7. You deleted simple requests, which wasn't spam. There wasn't any flaming either.

Soroush
08-04-2006, 08:49 PM
1. You're not a super mod.
2. You abused your powers a LOT.
3. You flamed people and you still remained as a mod.
4. You never gave a reason for banning people and when they asked you a reson, you flamed them.
5. Who gives me the right to decide? Defcon is open to suggestions.
6. I told Mr.Perfect why I created my account and asked him to ban it (used it to PM Defcon).
7. You deleted simple requests, which wasn't spam. There wasn't any flaming either.

look whos talking, ever since you got mod your the one who abused your power. cmon why do you think admin took that position away from you. Me and the rest of the mods were banning people because half of the members who were in this forum had multi-accounts so don't say i was the one who abused my powers. You couldn't be banned because admin forget to take all of your position and you started to spam the forum, you made racist remarks and insulted the mods. Mr.Perfect can even speak for me and caught you red handed making another account by the name su-30MKI.

stunnerzinc
08-04-2006, 08:52 PM
look whos talking, ever since you got mod your the one who abused your power. cmon why do you think admin took that position away from you. Me and the rest of the mods were banning people because half of the members who were in this forum had multi-accounts so don't say i was the one who abused my powers. You couldn't be banned because admin forget to take all of your position and you started to spam the forum, you made racist remarks and insulted the mods. Mr.Perfect can even speak for me and caught you red handed making another account by the name su-30MKI.
I asked the admin and Mr.Perfect to remove me as a mod, before I flamed you. I flamed you because you were abusing your powers, flaming me, and deleting my posts (Shocking Pictures From Iraq and Afghanistan). Mr.Perfect knows why I created my secondary account. I wanted to send a PM to Defcon. Besides, you have a second account even NOW. You banned a lot of members because of their POV. You also didn't ban some members who had secondary accounts, even though I posted them in the Support and Suggestions section.

Soroush
08-04-2006, 08:54 PM
I asked the admin and Mr.Perfect to remove me as a mod, before I flamed you. I flamed you because you were abusing your powers, flaming me, and deleting my posts (Shocking Pictures From Iraq and Afghanistan). Mr.Perfect knows why I created my secondary account. I wanted to send a PM to Defcon. Besides, you have a second account even NOW. You banned a lot of members because of their POV. You also didn't ban some members who had secondary accounts, even though I posted them in the Support and Suggestions section.


BS, everybody knows the admin took your mod status away because you just can't act normal. Show me any proof how I abused my powers...Mr.Perfect will even say how you messed everything up in the forum..

Yoni45
08-04-2006, 08:56 PM
I asked the admin and Mr.Perfect to remove me as a mod, before I flamed you. I flamed you because you were abusing your powers, flaming me, and deleting my posts (Shocking Pictures From Iraq and Afghanistan). Mr.Perfect knows why I created my secondary account. I wanted to send a PM to Defcon. Besides, you have a second account even NOW. You banned a lot of members because of their POV. You also didn't ban some members who had secondary accounts, even though I posted them in the Support and Suggestions section.

You really shouldn't bother, it won't make any difference arguing it here. Whatever you have to say, PM defcon with it and let it be...

stunnerzinc
08-04-2006, 08:59 PM
BS, everybody knows the admin took your mod status away because you just can't act normal.
LOL! Go ahead, PM Mr.Perfect and ask him. I wanted to be removed as a mod and PM'd Mr.Perfect a number of times.

Show me any proof how I abused my powers...Mr.Perfect will even say how you messed everything up in the forum..
Banned Arashi, without any reason. Didn't ban people who shared your POV. Banned Yonni and Night without any reason. Deleted my "Shocking Pictures from Iraq and Afghanistan" thread (deleted it 1 month after it was posted). You flamed a number of people.
That's more than enough reason to not make you a super-mod again.

Soroush
08-04-2006, 09:01 PM
LOL! Go ahead, PM Mr.Perfect and ask him. I wanted to be removed as a mod and PM'd Mr.Perfect a number of times.


Banned Arashi, without any reason. Didn't ban people who shared your POV. Banned Yonni and Night without any reason. Deleted my "Shocking Pictures from Iraq and Afghanistan" thread (deleted it 1 month after it was posted). You flamed a number of people.
That's more than enough reason to not make you a super-mod again.

arashi was banned for making racits remarks to arabs numerous times, we all know hes racist towards them. Night had made other accounts like tankerjones and yoni45 was spamming so he got a 2-3 day ban. Than he continues on to make multiple accounts on the forum which resulted to his perm-ban.

what i want to know is what are you still doing in the forum after all the mayhem you have caused, why do you think I pmed both defcon and admin about you many times and made a thread towards defcon to finally respond to our pm's. You are nothing but trouble and I'm happey were going to get rid of that soon enough.

stunnerzinc
08-04-2006, 09:05 PM
shut your mouth..
Flaming again? Thank you for proving my point.

arashi was banned for insulting arabs numerous times, we all know hes racist towards them.
Arashi NEVER flamed an Arab. He used the f word while refering to the Mullahs and you banned him.

Night had made other accounts like tankerjones
Go ahead, ask him. He never made another account. Tanked Jones stoppped posting a couple of months before Night signed up.

and yoni45 was spamming so he got a 2-3 day ban.
Spamming as in he has a different POV? I've never seen him spam. When I asked you to show me the posts in which he spammed, you flamed me and deleted my post.

Than he continues on to make multiple accounts on the forum which resulted to his perm-ban.
Only because you banned him WITHOUT any reason.

BTW, why did you edit your post? Afraid that Defcon is going to ban you for flaming?

Yoni45
08-04-2006, 09:11 PM
Only because you banned him WITHOUT any reason.

For the record, I declared all additional usernames to a super mod, but, seriously, there's not much of a point in this here, no need to spam this thread with irrelevant material...

Soroush
08-04-2006, 09:11 PM
Arashi NEVER flamed an Arab. He used the f word while refering to the Mullahs and you banned him.


well thats a first, than he wouldn't get banned now would he?. Alot of members were banned by attitude and Mr.Perfect as well so don't blame it on me even though thats your intentions.

Go ahead, ask him. He never made another account. Tanked Jones stoppped posting a couple of months before Night signed up.


we ran up a full scan on his IP involving other names and it traced the same exact as tankerjone's. We discussed it on mod forum so go ahead and even ask attitude or Mr.P about it.

Spamming as in he has a different POV? I've never seen him spam. When I asked you to show me the posts in which he spammed, you flamed me and deleted my post.


Like I said he made excessive threads and that resulted in a ban for 2-3 days nothing more and nothing less, I even explained to him. If the ban is that short why does he have to make more accounts?

you are the one who was destroying the forum, your like a cancer that will soon get washed up. Your an ogrish member who came for one reason and thats to bash people. Wait until Mr.P replys to this thread.

stunnerzinc
08-04-2006, 09:19 PM
well thats a first, than he wouldn't get banned now would he?. Alot of members were banned by attitude and Mr.Perfect as well so don't blame it on me even though thats your intentions.
It was 3 warnings and a ban. How many times have I reported Shia Excellence? Did he get banned? NO! There were and still are many people who call Zionists pigs and scum. Why are they not being banned?

we ran up a full scan on his IP involving other names and it traced the same exact as tankerjone's. We discussed it on mod forum so go ahead and even ask attitude or Mr.P about it.
Even I can scan IP's. Try members list. Tankerjones registered in March and Night registered in June, IIRC.

Like I said he made excessive threads and that resulted in a ban for 2-3 days nothing more and nothing less, I even explained to him. If the ban is that short why does he have to make more accounts?
Did you ever think that the forum might've glitched? Happened to Defcon today.

you are the one who was destroying the forum, your like a cancer that will soon get washed up. Your an ogrish member who came for one reason and thats to bash people. Wait until Mr.P replys to this thread.
Flaming AGAIN? Well, well, well, I got banned for flaming and got removed as a mod. What happened to you? NOTHING. Hope Defcon reads this thread, before making new mods. So what if I post on Ogrish? Did you see me flaming people without any reason? You should be 'eradicated' first, from this forum. If the Admin and Defcon want any diversity and anything more than 2,500 members, they shouldn't make you a mod.

Soroush
08-04-2006, 09:29 PM
It was 3 warnings and a ban. How many times have I reported Shia Excellence? Did he get banned? NO! There were and still are many people who call Zionists pigs and scum. Why are they not being banned?


Of course I do that, Arash always made bad comments towards arabs and used abusive language so I took in action. Do you also know how hard I tried solving the problem between the both of you, all the time I had to contact you and him for to ignore each other but you wouldn't listen to me either.

Even I can scan IP's. Try members list. Tankerjones registered in March and Night registered in June, IIRC.


did you ever wondered that night used the tankerjones name first?, like I said it was not up to me. all the mods discussed it and we made the action to do so.

Did you ever think that the forum might've glitched? Happened to Defcon today.


There was no glicth at that time what so ever, nice try though.

Flaming AGAIN? Well, well, well, I got banned for flaming and got removed as a mod. What happened to you? NOTHING. Hope Defcon reads this thread, before making new mods. So what if I post on Ogrish? Did you see me flaming people without any reason? You should be 'eradicated' first, from this forum. If the Admin and Defcon want any diversity and anything more than 2,500 members, they shouldn't make you a mod.


nothing happened to me because unlike you i am a respected member and i contributed more to this forum than most people which includes you, I am a fair honest person so don't bring me down to your level. Ask anybody here and see if they like you or not. We all want you out, we know you will be moving to India soon so thats why you came up here to make the forum worse all for yourself. You couldn't get banned at the time so you had a chance but now your not mod anymore and all the super-mods will take the action no matter what the cause!.

stunnerzinc
08-04-2006, 09:36 PM
Of course I do that, Arash always made bad comments towards arabs and used abusive language so I took in action. Do you also know how hard I tried solving the problem between the both of you, all the time I had to contact you and him for to ignore each other but you wouldn't listen to me either.
So, did he get banned for flaming? NO. Arashi got banned for using the F word once.

There was no glicth at that time what so ever, nice try though.
No wonder you thought that those guys used a secondary account. It depends upon the persons internet connection and the load on the server. Nice try though.

nothing happened to me because unlike you i am a respected member
Respected because you ban people who have a different POV, so you can continue your monologue.

and i contributed more to this forum than most people which includes you
Contributed what? Nothing, except banning members, because they have a different opinion.

I am a fair honest person
ROFL!

we know you will be moving to India soon so thats why you came up here to make the forum worse all for yourself.
No, I'm not moving to India. Anyways, don't post my personal info on the forum. I don't tell everyone that you're 12 years old.

You couldn't get banned at the time so you had a chance
I did get banned.

but now your not mod anymore and all the super-mods will take the action no matter what the cause!.
OMG!!!11

NEWUSER
08-04-2006, 09:37 PM
may i suggest a break?

stunnerzinc
08-04-2006, 09:43 PM
may i suggest a break?
I'm done. I just want the Admin and Defcon to keep the mods and supermods away from the "contact" forum. Also, I want them to select the mods wisely. Attitude, Tbagger, Hurdy, and Mr.Perfect were pretty cool.


Thank you Mig for proving my point about flaming.

Soroush
08-04-2006, 10:03 PM
I'm done. I just want the Admin and Defcon to keep the mods and supermods away from the "contact" forum. Also, I want them to select the mods wisely. Attitude, Tbagger, Hurdy, and Mr.Perfect were pretty cool.


Thank you Mig for proving my point about flaming.

look at you, god even when you try to post intelligently it still makes you a spammer, like I said you can try and do all those things but either way I also pmed defcon about you and so did the rest of the mods. Your not going to make a difference. You actually think any of us mods like you or have any respect for you?. We all want you out of here and banned. Truth hurts doesn't it...

stunnerzinc
08-04-2006, 10:07 PM
look at you, god even when you try to post intelligently it still makes you a spammer, like I said you can try and do all those things but either way I also pmed defcon about you and so did the rest of the mods. Your not going to make a difference. You actually think any of us mods like you or have any respect for you?. We all want you out of here and banned. Truth hurts doesn't it...
Do you know the meaning of the word "Spam"? Obviously not, so stop using it. Great PM whoever you want. If I really want to stay, I would just use a proxy. I would've used one when I created SU-30MKI. Oh, BTW, you're NOT a mod, jsyk. Truth hurts? Not really, as long as I really wanted to stay and my proxies are up.

Soroush
08-04-2006, 10:10 PM
Do you know the meaning of the word "Spam"? Obviously not, so stop using it. Great PM whoever you want. If I really want to stay, I would just use a proxy. I would've used one when I created SU-30MKI. Oh, BTW, you're NOT a mod, jsyk. Truth hurts? Not really, as long as I really wanted to stay and my proxies are up.

even if no one knows the meaning of spam they could tell it's always coming from you. Your not going to accomplish anything with this. Not even the mods have any respects towards you, Mr.Perfect and attitude both want you gone. So much for the trust huh? . I know these people I have contacs with them. I have showed evidence and proof to both defcon and admin about you, I can gladly say you won't be here anymore and this forum will start fresh after your gone, have fun talking to yourself...

stunnerzinc
08-04-2006, 10:16 PM
even if no one knows the meaning of spam they could tell it's always coming from you. Your not going to accomplish anything with this. Not even the mods have any respects towards you, Mr.Perfect and attitude both want you gone. So much for the trust huh? . I know these people I have contacs with them. I have showed evidence and prood to both defcon and admin about you, I can gladly say you won't be here anymore and this forum will start fresh after your gone, have fun talking to yourself...
Whatever dude. Go ahead with your rhetoric rant about having "contacts" ON THE INTERNET AHAHAHAHAHAHAH ROFL! As I said, if I really wanted to mess up the forum, I would just create a number of accounts and spam the forums. Hell, I could even try to do some other stuff. You called me a hacker, but you obviously don't know that it was the Turks who hacked the forums. Anways, keep living in your cyber world. Oh, btw, if you don't know what a proxy is, look it up.

As I said before, if defcon and the admin want to add some diversity to this forum, they shouldn't make you a mod.
'Nuff said.

Soroush
08-04-2006, 10:22 PM
Whatever dude. Go ahead with your rhetoric rant about having "contacts" ON THE INTERNET AHAHAHAHAHAHAH ROFL! As I said, if I really wanted to mess up the forum, I would just create a number of accounts and spam the forums. Hell, I could even try to do some other stuff. You called me a hacker, but you obviously don't know that it was the Turks who hacked the forums. Anways, keep living in your cyber world. Oh, btw, if you don't know what a proxy is, look it up.

As I said before, if defcon and the admin want to add some diversity to this forum, they shouldn't make you a mod.
'Nuff said.

whats the matter you don't want to know the truth?, even admin sometimes comes surfing in here along with defcon and never had they had anything bad to report to me. I deserve super-mod and I will be just because you said it it doesn't matter nor are you special. Just look at your avatar, I think that says enough. No one in this forum likes you *werewolfversion2* and that's for one reason because yoou have something against all the members on this board, it's rather strange actually. I never accused you of being hacker either and if I did show me the proof please. Not one moderator, or member other than Tbagger can trust you or talk to you, you don't want me mod so you don't get banned and that you can spam the forum again well it's not going to happen because as I said there are other moderators here as well that saw what you did before this forum got hacked and they will take the action.

attitude
08-04-2006, 11:17 PM
Mikoyan-Gurevich was a terrific super moderator and well deserves his status back and should be promoted to full admin
Ide like to be super moderator again

TankHunter
08-04-2006, 11:44 PM
Mikoyan-Gurevich was a terrific super moderator and well deserves his status back and should be promoted to full admin
Ide like to be super moderator again

That is bollocks I tell you. He knows nothing about AOL IPs at best, and when told about it doesn’t do a bloody thing to say “oh, my mistake.” The only reply that I got was a ban when I told him and Mr.Perfect about that. That or they banned people who had views other than their own. If either of them become an Admin I will leave this forum and I bloody well hope that anyone else that came back after getting falsely banned by the two of them does the same. And I am not one of them individuals who go about saying things that they don’t designs on doing. They are factious or grossly incompetent individuals and do not deserve the title of Admin or even Moderator.

attitude
08-04-2006, 11:55 PM
That is bollocks I tell you. He knows nothing about AOL IPs at best, and when told about it doesn’t do a bloody thing to say “oh, my mistake.” The only reply that I got was a ban when I told him and Mr.Perfect about that. That or they banned people who had views other than their own. If either of them become an Admin I will leave this forum and I bloody well hope that anyone else that came back after getting falsely banned by the two of them does the same. And I am not one of them individuals who go about saying things that they don’t designs on doing. They are factious or grossly incompetent individuals and do not deserve the title of Admin or even Moderator.

You are entitled to your opinion and they would not have banned you for that reason as admin and defcon can check why all members were banned
If Mig or Perfect had have done what you claim then Admin would have caught them so i dont believe they banned you for that reason
They did a great job and they deserve their super mod status back
If you dont agree with me thats fine

TankHunter
08-05-2006, 12:00 AM
You are entitled to your opinion and they would not have banned you for that reason as admin and defcon can check why all members were banned
If Mig or Perfect had have done what you claim then Admin would have caught them so i dont believe they banned you for that reason
They did a great job and they deserve their super mod status back
If you dont agree with me thats fine

Bollcoks. The thing they banned me for was "multiple screen names." They would be total fools if they said "We banned you because you are Pro Israel." Considering that I have only one account here, and that the only proof that they had was an AOL IP of all things (the least accurate way to tell such a thing) then they know buggery about it or did know, but used it as an excuse to ban me for my views. The problem with an AOL IP is this, you cannot see if Bob is actually Bob because Joe, Jane, Suzy, etc may all use the IP also (even if they are 1000+ miles away from eachother). It is a dynamic IP in other words (I think that is what it is called at least). As I said before, they are either incompetent or factious.

defcon
08-05-2006, 01:36 AM
This thread is locked as it appears to be gotten off topic. I will create new thread regarding the warning system, please do not go off topic.

The section Contact Admin, only administrator will be able to see everybody's thread. Supermod, as well as mod can only see their own thread. As per the suggestion regarding 'deletion' and/or 'moving' threads to trash can, I will have to relook again.

The reason why I ask previous mods to PM admin is because he is more familiar with the roles that each people play in each specific forum. I am not much familiar with the role of each person per specific forum or the whole. Since admin is awol, I am left with no choice but the select the mods.

When it comes to my decision, then this is how we will leave it: not all mod will be reinstated, some will be demoted to mod 2-3 forums before promoted again, and new mods will be assigned.