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Reality101
08-05-2006, 12:44 PM
Maybe its because I'm a Marine but I don't understand who invented that leaflet crap. If you are at war you need to accomplish the mission. I don't see hezbollah dropping leaflet warning Israel. The truth is this is war and Israel is and always will be hated by the middle east. Cry me a river. Accomplish your objective.

Both sides are taking civilian causalities so i really don't want to hear no propaganda crap about kids dying. This is strictly from a wartime point of view.

Darth_Vader
08-05-2006, 01:10 PM
I agree. Kill your enemy until they lose the will to fight, use all the power you need. Isreal is just playing around with small forces, 10,000 troops. Please there putting more troops then that on the US/Mexico border to control migrants.

Bombs away.

MSS'S
08-05-2006, 01:39 PM
Maybe its because I'm a Marine but I don't understand who invented that leaflet crap. If you are at war you need to accomplish the mission. I don't see hezbollah dropping leaflet warning Israel. The truth is this is war and Israel is and always will be hated by the middle east. Cry me a river. Accomplish your objective.

Both sides are taking civilian causalities so i really don't want to hear no propaganda crap about kids dying. This is strictly from a wartime point of view.
From a wartime point of view then by your absent logic and unreasoning: Anything goes and the last person standing.?
Terror tactics are certainly O.K.
Firing missles at civilians is O.K.
Carpet bombing whole cities is O.K.
Hell, just nuke the M************????
My father was a Marine and I'm sad to admit to it but he's just as idiotic as you seem to be and he's even a lawyer. Jarhead :rolleyes:

Shohad
08-05-2006, 01:50 PM
If we can minimize civilian casualties on the other side - we do it! It is our duty. But the world expects us to handle the terrorists with silk gloves never matter the cost so the result is an army that isn't allowed to win. The politicians don't intend to win this war, they just want the IDF to demonstrate some of its power. And for this I hate them and I hope they will pay the price.

MSS'S
08-05-2006, 01:56 PM
I may seem like a turncoat, but just to be honest: Israel's problem is no different from the U.S. when it comes to fighting actual terrorists.
Well numbered Spec Ops units can deffinately handle them with quite ease.
You all have a good point with your latest Shayatet 13 operation in Tyre.
I always knew that when you bring in the big boys, there's virtually no competiton.
Better than waisting unecessary deaths on both sides IMOA.

Reality101
08-05-2006, 02:01 PM
From a wartime point of view then by your absent logic and unreasoning: Anything goes and the last person standing.?
Terror tactics are certainly O.K.
Firing missles at civilians is O.K.
Carpet bombing whole cities is O.K.
Hell, just nuke the M************????
My father was a Marine and I'm sad to admit to it but he's just as idiotic as you seem to be and he's even a lawyer. Jarhead :rolleyes:


If I didn't post it don't try to interpret me. I knew someone would take my words and run with it.

You intepretation is way off.

I didn't say nuke freakin Lebanon nor drop convention bombs just for the heck of it on civilians.


The leaftlet crap is just a little too nice when fighting a war

globetrotter
08-05-2006, 03:13 PM
The leaftlet crap is just a little too nice when fighting a war

The leaflet crap is propaganda so Israel can make the world beleive how nice they are. The truth is Israel had a disproportionate response to the capture of two soldiers....where the hell on earth are you sanctioned to kill 1000 people for two captive soldiers that are still alive.....don't be biased, call the facts as they are.... Israel is the right arm of the US in the ME, they do your dirty work and you supply their weapons.....why is it that the US is somehow involved in the start of all wars in the ME???/ maye you are biased my marine friend.. doe this picture make it look like Israel is too nice ???/.peace out from Tehran

Reality101
08-05-2006, 03:34 PM
The leaflet crap is propaganda so Israel can make the world beleive how nice they are. The truth is Israel had a disproportionate response to the capture of two soldiers....where the hell on earth are you sanctioned to kill 1000 people for two captive soldiers that are still alive.....don't be biased, call the facts as they are.... Israel is the right arm of the US in the ME, they do your dirty work and you supply their weapons.....why is it that the US is somehow involved in the start of all wars in the ME???/ maye you are biased my marine friend.. doe this picture make it look like Israel is too nice ???/.peace out from Tehran

Do you want me to post a picture of a dead Israel civilian? Or would it matter? you tell me. yep the US supplies Israel just like Iran supplies Hezbollah.

Was the allies saction to kill germany civilian since hitler was the leader? My whole point is its WAR. Civilians always will die.

How am I bais? Do you hear me screaming evil hezbollah? No I didn't.....stop assuming.


The truth is if one of hezbollah rockets struck a school killing israel kids the middle eastern world wouldn't give a crap. So don't expect the west too miss a heart beat over middle easterns deaths.

STILL CONFUSED ON WHO ARE THE TARGETS IN THE THOUSANDS OF HEZBOLLAH ROCKETS. CIVILIAN I THINK
CIVILIANS I THINK. CIVILIANS CIVILIANS


Keep posting your pictures.
peace out from the west

globetrotter
08-05-2006, 04:19 PM
The truth is if one of hezbollah rockets struck a school killing israel kids the middle eastern world wouldn't give a crap. So don't expect the west too miss a heart beat over middle easterns deaths.



This is NOT the truth.....it is your assumption....did you poll all people from ME to get your facts ????
So called WESTERNERS should give a damn about the death of Lebanese civilians...their blood is the same color as yours....Israel is one corrupt regime.
Ever read the book "By way of Deception" ??? maye you should !

Reality101
08-05-2006, 04:28 PM
This is NOT the truth.....it is your assumption....did you poll all people from ME to get your facts ????
So called WESTERNERS should give a damn about the death of Lebanese civilians...their blood is the same color as yours....Israel is one corrupt regime.
Ever read the book "By way of Deception" ??? maye you should !

You are right I didn't poll. I can say this. 8 israel civilians died the other day. I have yet to see the middle east protest hezbollah of war crimes because of this.

Yes and the so called MIDDLE EAST should give a damn about the death of israel civilian.

They will protest for their own though. Which is expected.

And when I say the west not caring IM not giving Israel the green light to flatten the country. Whether its being nice or propaganda I think they should stop the leaflet crap


Dont misuderstand me. Personally I not saying that I dont care who dies.

Globe you are smart. You can't tell me the middle eastern isnt bias on who dies? All Im saying is why should the west.

Darth_Vader
08-05-2006, 08:40 PM
Well ill be the nasty one and speak the truth. I dont give a crap really how many die over there. The middle east has been in flames for thousands of years its not going to be any different in the future. I gave up caring how many died when the arabs started using sucide bombers on cafes, resturants & markets.

It seems the arab terrorist are very slow learners, never in histroy have any people been defeated through trying to terrorise the population. Its been tried and done on massive scales and it never works. All you do is calvinise your enemise home polulation to fight you and hate you even more, leading to more of your own people dying. Its just a bad strategy which leads to so many more deaths then needed.

If your going to fight because you hate your enemy then do it. Go out on the battle field and get it on. Leave the women and children of both sides out of it. Im sick of all these islamic arab terrorists hiding like cowards behind women and children.

globetrotter
08-06-2006, 10:10 AM
You can't tell me the middle eastern isnt bias on who dies? All Im saying is why should the west.

Unfortunately it is human nature to side with whomever you see as your own. It is not right though, for both sides.

cheers

NEWUSER
08-06-2006, 11:51 AM
Israel is throwing these leaflets as part of their psychological warfare to protect Israel from international criticism when they kill Lebanese civilians, whereby Israel can claim we warned the people to leave before we flattened their suburbs, not to be responsible for the civilian death – another sign of Israel weakness.

Jon Snow
08-06-2006, 12:20 PM
It seems the arab terrorist are very slow learners, never in histroy have any people been defeated through trying to terrorise the population. Its been tried and done on massive scales and it never works. All you do is calvinise your enemise home polulation to fight you and hate you even more, leading to more of your own people dying. Its just a bad strategy which leads to so many more deaths then needed.

I've got an experiment for you o great and mighty dark lord. Follow these simple instructions: Replace the word arab in the above text with the word jew. Read the text again. See what happens. :D

TankHunter
08-06-2006, 08:41 PM
From a wartime point of view then by your absent logic and unreasoning: Anything goes and the last person standing.?
Terror tactics are certainly O.K.
Firing missles at civilians is O.K.
Carpet bombing whole cities is O.K.
Hell, just nuke the M************????
My father was a Marine and I'm sad to admit to it but he's just as idiotic as you seem to be and he's even a lawyer. Jarhead :rolleyes:

That would be nice. At least the IDF would realize what is needed. If Hezbollah is engaging in total war, why cant Israel? I see it as Hezbollah bringing it upon themselves. You do all that is needed to break their will to fight. If that means killing off their supporters, then by all means, bomb their supporters, rape their women, destroy all that is of value, live off of the land, destroy infrastructure and show others the results of engaging in that kind of a war on Israel. Show Hezbollah’s supporters that they are a defeated people. That would do a much better job of reducing the suffering of all sides involved by breaking the enemy’s will to fight and show others why it is a bad idea to engage in a war.

Darth_Vader
08-06-2006, 11:04 PM
That would be nice. At least the IDF would realize what is needed. If Hezbollah is engaging in total war, why cant Israel? I see it as Hezbollah bringing it upon themselves. You do all that is needed to break their will to fight. If that means killing off their supporters, then by all means, bomb their supporters, rape their women, destroy all that is of value, live off of the land, destroy infrastructure and show others the results of engaging in that kind of a war on Israel. Show Hezbollah’s supporters that they are a defeated people. That would do a much better job of reducing the suffering of all sides involved by breaking the enemy’s will to fight and show others why it is a bad idea to engage in a war.

Exactly my point. The west has tried to fight wars sinc WWII in a clean fashion, as that destruction was so great. It time to return to this type of thinking and show our enemies what a true war is like.

The middle east has never experieced a true massive war that devastes the entire region, its about time they did experience it. Europe and Asia have had there massive wars, its time for the middle east now. No more mucking around with these small few week wars, even the iran & iraq war was a minno in comparission.

Its time for Isreal to unlesh its full military capability and demonstrate to Syria and Iran jut wait awaits them should they persit.

These clean wars just dont work. You have to break your enemy and make them suffer so badly and lose so many people that they now there a defeated people and will beg for peace like Germany, Italy & Japan did. Its time for this to happen to Syria, Iran & North Korea. And it will all its needs is a red line to be crossed, that spark to be lit. Then these nations will experence true hell on earth.

globetrotter
08-07-2006, 01:29 AM
Then these nations will experence true hell on earth.

As will you. You underestimate us and over-estimate yourself :D

Parmenides
08-07-2006, 04:31 AM
It won't happen. Israel will continue to fight clean. Only in a war were it's existence is threatened, will it truely unleash the dogs of war.

TankHunter
08-07-2006, 01:14 PM
Exactly my point. The west has tried to fight wars sinc WWII in a clean fashion, as that destruction was so great. It time to return to this type of thinking and show our enemies what a true war is like.

The middle east has never experieced a true massive war that devastes the entire region, its about time they did experience it. Europe and Asia have had there massive wars, its time for the middle east now. No more mucking around with these small few week wars, even the iran & iraq war was a minno in comparission.

Its time for Isreal to unlesh its full military capability and demonstrate to Syria and Iran jut wait awaits them should they persit.

These clean wars just dont work. You have to break your enemy and make them suffer so badly and lose so many people that they now there a defeated people and will beg for peace like Germany, Italy & Japan did. Its time for this to happen to Syria, Iran & North Korea. And it will all its needs is a red line to be crossed, that spark to be lit. Then these nations will experence true hell on earth.


The Middle East has. Timur Lame went and sacked every city from Delhi to Damascus. Sometimes a societies don’t come back from a major war, the middle east seems to be one of them.

Unlike you (or so it seems at least) I am not coming from this as a “lets go in and kick some ass” thought pattern. War is an uncivilized act, one must do all that is possible to avoid it for that reason, but if your hand is forced then you force your will upon the enemy with the utmost of aggression and violence. There is no honor in it the matter. It is all hell as what Sherman said. And that is how it must be waged.