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TURKS
08-05-2006, 02:23 PM
The Turkish Armed forces, with a combined troop strength of 1,043,550 people, is the second largest standing force in NATO after the United States. Currently, 40,000 troops are stationed in the occupied by Turkey northern Cyprus area. Every fit male Turkish citizen has to serve military service for varying time periods ranging between 1 month to 15 months depending on his education, job location, and occasional paid options. The Turkish Armed Forces became a member of the NATO Alliance on February 18, 1952.

In 1998, Turkey announced a modernisation programme worth some $38 billion over a period of ten years including tanks, helicopters and assault rifles. Turkey is also a level three contributor to the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) program, gaining an opportunity to develop and influence the creation of the next generation fighter spearheaded by the United States.

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Musa a.s.
08-05-2006, 02:36 PM
:) I love it. I used to have a Turkishdefense.net e mail address for years. I feel that as Muslims though, they should get their acts together and stop wanting to live like Kafiroon and stop hating Kurds. Were all Muslims. That anti Kurd stuff is Haram except those shaitan worshiping ones. :(

Arashi
08-05-2006, 02:37 PM
:) I love it. I used to have a Turkishdefense.net e mail address for years. I feel that as Muslims though, they should get their acts together and stop wanting to live like Kafiroon and stop hating Kurds. Were all Muslims. That anti Kurd stuff is Haram except those shaitan worshiping ones. :(

Haha, you mean the Yezidis, or something? :D

Musa a.s.
08-05-2006, 02:42 PM
Maybe, I forgot their name but I heard that they make no secret that they worship the Devil.

Arashi
08-05-2006, 02:43 PM
Maybe, I forgot their name but I heard that they make no secret that they worship the Devil.

Yes, Zardoshtis and Yezidis are seen as fire- and devilworshippers in the Muslims' eyes. We don't think highly of you either.

Black_zero
08-05-2006, 03:35 PM
Turkey is better in convention weapons.but now turkey should make nuclear weapons and missile .
how many F-16 turkey have? and can turkey buy them now ? and turkey have only F-16 (better fighter)..i mean is turkey have f-14,f-15??

AK54
08-05-2006, 03:36 PM
its conscription, LOL!

Hellas
08-05-2006, 03:56 PM
Turkey is better in convention weapons.but now turkey should make nuclear weapons and missile .
how many F-16 turkey have? and can turkey buy them now ? and turkey have only F-16 (better fighter)..i mean is turkey have f-14,f-15??


why the hell would they want nuclear weapons? what is the point?


they have about 280 f-16's ranging from blk30 to blk 50...curently they are looking to buy more f-16's BLK 52+ so they can phase out all f-4's and f-5's... the deal has not happened yet but Turkey wants to spend 1.5 billion.

No, they do not have any f-14's or f-15's Turkey only has F-16 / F-5 / F-4 --- they are looking at the EF or JSF

PersianInSweden
08-05-2006, 04:01 PM
yeah but what the point they arent doing anything with their army!!!

TURKS
08-05-2006, 04:07 PM
Battle of Gallipoli

Combatants
United Kingdom--Ottoman Empire
France
India (UK)
Australia
New Zealand
Newfoundland (uk)




The Battle of Gallipoli took place on the Turkish peninsula of Gallipoli from April 1915 to January 1916 during the First World War. A combined British Empire and French operation was mounted in order to eventually capture the Ottoman capital of Istanbul The attempt failed, with an estimated 250,000 soldiers killed, most of them Turkish, although allied losses were also heavy.

In Turkey the campaign is known as the Çanakkale Savaşları. In the United Kingdom it is called the Dardanelles Campaign or Gallipoli, and in France, Australia, New Zealand and Newfoundland it is also known as "Gallipoli". See also: Timeline of the Battle of Gallipoli


Casualties
252,000 (205,000 British, 47,000 French)
253,000 Ottoman Empire

Black_zero
08-05-2006, 04:31 PM
why the hell would they want nuclear weapons? what is the point?



it is for super defence .
i think US will not sale to JSF and not F-22 to turkey

TURKS
08-05-2006, 05:37 PM
Tuesday, August 1, 2006 TURKISH DAILY NEWS

Turkey is planning to buy a new squadron of F-16 fighter jets worth at least $1.5 billion as a stop-gap solution until new-generation fighter aircraft join its Air Force in the next decade, procurement and military officials said.

The move is likely to kill an earlier plan with Israel for the upgrade of 48 Vietnam-era F-4E fighters.

"Our plan is to buy 30 new F-16 fighters, and negotiations are continuing," said one procurement official.

Officials said a final agreement might emerge before the end of this year if all technical and financial talks with Lockheed Martin, the aircraft's manufacturer, go smoothly.

Ankara is planning to buy the F-16 Block 52+, one of the F-16 Fighting Falcon family's most advanced fighters. http://www.wsosp.deblin.pl/F16/graf/block52_advanced.jpg

Greece last year signed a deal to buy 30 F-16 Block 52+ fighters, scheduled for delivery in 2009.

For the $10 billion program to buy nearly 100 new-generation fighters, Turkey's largest defense procurement project in history, Turkish officials are presently holding simultaneous talks with Lockheed Martin, lead-manufacturer of the Joint Strike Fighter, also known as the F-35 Lightning II, and Europe's Eurofighter consortium, maker of the Eurofighter Typhoon.

Turkey has already announced that it could buy the JSF, the Eurofighter or a combination of the two.

Turkey is a partner in the JSF's system development and demonstration phase, and has agreed to pay $175 million, but has not committed to buying the F-35.

Some defense analysts suggest that a Turkish move to buy 30 more F-16s could raise the chances that Turkey would choose the JSF over the Eurofighter. However, procurement officials have declined to comment.

Turkey is due to make a final decision over its new-generation fighter before the yearend.

The plan for new F-16s would put on hold a $480 million effort to upgrade 48 F-4E Phantom fighters, or at least limit the upgrades and perform them all locally, one procurement official said. “The F-4E program already is on hold,” the official said. “We've downgraded its priority ranking. If we bought new F-16s, we might minimize its scope.”

The current plan called for the upgrades to be performed by TAI. But the bulk of the money would go to Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) in technology-transfer fees and licenses, according to Turkish officials.

Under a 1997 contract, IAI has been leading a joint-effort to upgrade 54 U.S.-made F-4Es.

The F-4 modernization plan had been designed as a stopgap solution until the acquisition of the JSF or the Eurofighter.

Turkey earlier also looked at the possibility of purchasing used F-16 fighters from the United States, but the U.S. government said it had no used planes to sell.

Some defense analysts said that Greece's decision to buy 30 brand new F-16 Block 52+ fighters might have prompted Turkey to acquire the same aircraft.

Black_zero
08-05-2006, 05:56 PM
Tuesday, August 1, 2006 TURKISH DAILY NEWS

Turkey is planning to buy a new squadron of F-16 fighter jets worth at least $1.5 billion as a stop-gap solution until new-generation fighter aircraft join its Air Force in the next decade, procurement and military officials said.

The move is likely to kill an earlier plan with Israel for the upgrade of 48 Vietnam-era F-4E fighters.

"Our plan is to buy 30 new F-16 fighters, and negotiations are continuing," said one procurement official.

Officials said a final agreement might emerge before the end of this year if all technical and financial talks with Lockheed Martin, the aircraft's manufacturer, go smoothly.

Ankara is planning to buy the F-16 Block 52+, one of the F-16 Fighting Falcon family's most advanced fighters. http://www.wsosp.deblin.pl/F16/graf/block52_advanced.jpg

Greece last year signed a deal to buy 30 F-16 Block 52+ fighters, scheduled for delivery in 2009.

For the $10 billion program to buy nearly 100 new-generation fighters, Turkey's largest defense procurement project in history, Turkish officials are presently holding simultaneous talks with Lockheed Martin, lead-manufacturer of the Joint Strike Fighter, also known as the F-35 Lightning II, and Europe's Eurofighter consortium, maker of the Eurofighter Typhoon.

Turkey has already announced that it could buy the JSF, the Eurofighter or a combination of the two.

Turkey is a partner in the JSF's system development and demonstration phase, and has agreed to pay $175 million, but has not committed to buying the F-35.

Some defense analysts suggest that a Turkish move to buy 30 more F-16s could raise the chances that Turkey would choose the JSF over the Eurofighter. However, procurement officials have declined to comment.

Turkey is due to make a final decision over its new-generation fighter before the yearend.

The plan for new F-16s would put on hold a $480 million effort to upgrade 48 F-4E Phantom fighters, or at least limit the upgrades and perform them all locally, one procurement official said. “The F-4E program already is on hold,” the official said. “We've downgraded its priority ranking. If we bought new F-16s, we might minimize its scope.”

The current plan called for the upgrades to be performed by TAI. But the bulk of the money would go to Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) in technology-transfer fees and licenses, according to Turkish officials.

Under a 1997 contract, IAI has been leading a joint-effort to upgrade 54 U.S.-made F-4Es.

The F-4 modernization plan had been designed as a stopgap solution until the acquisition of the JSF or the Eurofighter.

Turkey earlier also looked at the possibility of purchasing used F-16 fighters from the United States, but the U.S. government said it had no used planes to sell.

Some defense analysts said that Greece's decision to buy 30 brand new F-16 Block 52+ fighters might have prompted Turkey to acquire the same aircraft.
great news...Long live turkey
can turkey produce F-16 himself ?

Hellas
08-05-2006, 06:37 PM
it is for super defence .
i think US will not sale to JSF and not F-22 to turkey

lol.... super defence from who? the kurds or Armenians?.... it would just be a huge waste of mondey and a security risk....


Turkey has been offered to become a co-producer of the JSF.....i said nothing about the F-22...

Hellas
08-05-2006, 06:38 PM
great news...Long live turkey
can turkey produce F-16 himself ?

no they can not produce them in Turkey

Black_zero
08-05-2006, 06:43 PM
lol.... super defence from who? the kurds or Armenians?.... it would just be a huge waste of mondey and a security risk....


Turkey has been offered to become a co-producer of the JSF.....i said nothing about the F-22...

then why US have nuckes?
they have best military.why they make nuclear weapons in hundreds
remember ! world change in minutes !

Hellas
08-05-2006, 06:49 PM
then why US have nuckes?
they have best military.why they make nuclear weapons in hundreds
remember ! world change in minutes !

Well America is a super power that needs to project power…and Turkey is part of NATO so I don’t see a need for added “security” that nukes give you… unless you and the Turkish military have some crazy dream to kill millions of people and destroy ecosystems… I see no point

AK54
08-05-2006, 09:54 PM
then why US have nuckes?
they have best military.why they make nuclear weapons in hundreds
remember ! world change in minutes !
back when we developed nuclear weapons, we did not have the most powerful military.

these days the US and russia have drastically reduced the number of warheads/missiles, and the US has gone for precision bombing/tactical nukes rather than 'blow up the entire world' bombs of the cold war.

Soroush
08-06-2006, 12:43 AM
it is for super defence .
i think US will not sale to JSF and not F-22 to turkey

Turkey will be getting the JSF, they plan to buy 100 for price tag of $10 billion. Spanning in between some 20 years or so...

TURKS
08-06-2006, 07:14 AM
great news...Long live turkey
can turkey produce F-16 himself ?


CLICK HERE
http://www.tai.com.tr

Black_zero
08-06-2006, 10:47 AM
why not turkey develop their own fighter ?

AK54
08-06-2006, 11:17 AM
why not turkey develop their own fighter ?
why doesnt everyone develope their own fighters, and tanks, and rifles, and everything else? :p

Black_zero
08-06-2006, 02:17 PM
why doesnt everyone develope their own fighters, and tanks, and rifles, and everything else? :p

Iran develpoing their own fighter(shfag)..and may be tank
pakistan develped fighter jf-17,tanks,rifle,

Soroush
08-06-2006, 02:21 PM
Iran develpoing their own fighter(shfag)..and may be tank
pakistan develped fighter jf-17,tanks,rifle,

JF-17 is a 3rd gen Chinese made fighter-jet. Not created by Pakistan but funded.

PruneJuice
08-06-2006, 02:35 PM
I recently heard that Turkey and China Co-Developed a new advanced missile

http://www.strategycenter.net/research/pubID.63/pub_detail.asp

They say that it has manuvering capability to defeat missile defence systems.

Black_zero
08-06-2006, 02:38 PM
JF-17 is a 3rd gen Chinese made fighter-jet. Not created by Pakistan but funded.

good one
:D