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PARSI PRIDE
09-15-2007, 08:39 AM
Iran spy post heightens Gulf tension with US
By Gethin Chamberlain, Sunday Telegraph


Iran has established a sophisticated spying operation at the head of the Gulf in a move which has significantly heightened tensions in its standoff with the United States.

Age of the cyber spy


The operation, masterminded by the country’s elite Revolutionary Guard, includes the construction of a high-tech spying post close to the point where Iranian forces kidnapped 15 British naval personnel in March.

The move has forced British and American commanders to divert resources away from protecting oil platforms in the Gulf from terrorist attack and into countering the new Iranian threat.

The US military says that the spying post, build on the foundations of a crane platform sunk during the Iran-Iraq war, is equipped with radar, cameras and forward facing infra-red devices to track the movement of coalition naval forces and commercial shipping in the northern Gulf.

Commanders fear that one of the main purposes of the Iranian operation is to enable the Revolutionary Guard to intercept more coalition vessels moving through the disputed waters near the mouth of the Shatt al Arab waterway south of the Iraqi city of Basra.


The disastrous British handling of the hostage crisis has convinced some in the Iranian regime that there is mileage in further such attempts.

But the US military believes the listening post could also be used to help Iranian forces target commercial shipping in response to any US air strikes on its nuclear facilities.

Such operations would form part of their threat to launch guerrilla or asymmetric attacks on western interests if Iran is attacked.

US forces have responded by establishing their own listening post, positioning it on an oil platform just across the maritime border between Iraq and Iran from the Iranian position. The two spying posts are now monitoring each other’s activity.

British naval personnel who have recently served in the persian Gulf have told The Sunday Telegraph that tensions between the Americans and the Iranians have soared, with both sides heavily involved in espionage and counter-espionage operations.

British forces are also on high alert in an attempt to prevent any repeat of the March incident. “The Revolutionary Guard navy comes out every day to cruise around on their side of the line in their fast patrol boats and drop of supplies at their surveillance base,” one said.

“Every one is being very careful. The last thing anyone wants is for things to get out of control by mistake.

“The northern persian Gulf continues to be tense with the Americans and Iranians keeping a close eye on each other. Both sides sends out patrol boats to watch the other side and they have both set up bases packed with spy gear – loads of radars and cameras.”

British personnel said that Iranian activity had forced them to rethink their priorities in the Gulf: “Up to March, when our sailors were captured by the Iranians, coalition patrols concentrated on protecting Iraq’s oil export terminals from al-Qaeda suicide bombers.

"Now watching the Iranians is our top priority. We don’t want to be taken by surprise again and we need to keep know what they are doing in case things kick off if the Yanks bomb the Iranian nuclear sites.”

The Iranian spying post is located in shallow waters southeast of the tip of the Al Faw peninsular. It is located in water claimed by Iran, although the maritime boundary in the area is disputed by the Iraqi government.

In March 15 British sailors and marines - 14 men and one woman - were captured when their small craft were ambushed by a larger Iranian force of gunboats during a boarding operation at the mouth of the Shatt al Arab.

They were held for almost two weeks and accused of spying before being pardoned by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and deported back to the UK.

The subsequent fiasco over media deals to pay some of the sailors for their stories handed the Iranians a propaganda coup. British forces say the presence of the spying post has made it even more difficult to operate in the area.

“The Iranian surveillance base has been set up in a large naval crane that was sunk during the Iran-Iraq war. It is just across the boundary line and has a radar and night vision cameras to keep us under surveillance 24 hours a day.

"On our side of the line the Yanks have set up their surveillance base on a charted barge moored along side the Khawr Al Amaya oil terminal.

“The boundary line between Iraqi and Iranian waters runs only few hundred yards from the exclusion zone set up around the terminal and we have little choice but to send our people out close to Iranian waters.

"We are toe to toe with the Iranians here.

"The US Navy and the allies don’t venture out there unless they are all tooled up and have loads of boats in support. We are not taking any chances any more.”

The development is the latest sign of the growing tensions between the US and Iran, which Washington has accused of supporting attacks on its forces in Iraq.

With Iran last week announcing that it had achieved its goal of 3,000 centrifuges to enrich uranium for its nuclear programme, the prospect of US military action has increased.

Despite Iranian assurances that it is only seeking to develop a peacesful nuclear programme to meet its future power needs, the US believes it is intent on developing nuclear weapons.

Iran has warned that it will hit back if the US launches air strikes against its nuclear facilities and shipping in the Gulf would be expected to be high on its list of targets.

Iran has three submarines stationed at the Bandar Abbas naval base on the northern shore of the strategically crucial Strait of Hormuz, where the Gulf is at its narrowest, and these would be expected to play a significant role in any campaign against shipping.

A report in the respected Janes Defence Weekly magazine, published tomorrow, quotes coalition naval personnel in the region reporting regular patrols by Iranian Revolutionary Guards - the same force responsible for the capture of the British service personnel in March.

The Guards are reported to conduct regular patrols in small patrol craft and speed boats along the boundary of their territorial waters.

Regular Iranian naval forces, which include frigates and corvettes moored at Bandar Abbas, are considered more vulnerable to pre-emptive US strikes and there is less reliance on them n the northern persian Gulf.

IR.IRAN
09-15-2007, 11:48 AM
in a way this is good news, the british and the americans are panicking. its good to let them know we arnt playing any games, also its our right to do whatever we wish because its our waters and land, we have to keep an eye on whats going around us to make sure nothing is endangering us.
if they dont like it they can go home.

PARSI PRIDE
09-15-2007, 05:04 PM
one thing about this article that I edited was instead of persian gulf they are using arabian gulf how much do you think they were paid to write that way?
look the original article

IR.IRAN
09-16-2007, 06:25 AM
one thing about this article that I edited was instead of persian gulf they are using arabian gulf how much do you think they were paid to write that way?
look the original article

its not suprising that they would wright that, they are either ediots or like you said have been paid or even just trying to pis* iranians off. good job editing it

shiker
09-16-2007, 02:36 PM
well its not only for the persians , its for persians and arabs

Amir
09-16-2007, 03:04 PM
well its not only for the persians , its for persians and arabs


So is every gulf, sea, oceans in the world but they all have a name which is recognized by national geographic. We have had this issue before, If you are here to flame, I 'll be happy to ban you forever.

rabs
09-16-2007, 08:51 PM
Because India actually controls the entire Indian ocean /sarcasm

Sokuy30
09-16-2007, 11:11 PM
in a way this is good news, the british and the americans are panicking. its good to let them know we arnt playing any games, also its our right to do whatever we wish because its our waters and land, we have to keep an eye on whats going around us to make sure nothing is endangering us.
if they dont like it they can go home.

Foreigners need to put their tails between their legs and move on.
I am the believer these people aren't going to fight Iran ,
It seems they don't want to learn what is it that Iranian still around and rest of civilizations are butlering for them.
Keep your fists tight , No one in my Persian gulf is showing their shrimp tail noses they know it will be broken.
i have to opened and add to my post, the people that they are there they have no good intentions ,they want to take over the land and rape your families don't give them the chance ,Even Americanise would do the same like they did in Iraq .
Iraqis did not fight they gave in, look what happen to them they are treated like a Sheep.
It is not about your governments ,make me proud.

Imagine if I was there, War would be going if full long time ago.
marg bar brits.

PARSI PRIDE
09-16-2007, 11:43 PM
what is funny is that even PERSIAN GULF arabs have the nerve to try to claim the islands or change the name to arabian gulf . none of these countries even existed till after WWI.I read a few months back that UAE had paid an enormous amount of money to the Louvre Museum in france to try to change the name to the arabian gulf . they would not have the balls to say a word if their masters do not ask them to do so.

Khaybar
09-17-2007, 02:24 AM
These are the same blood lines that they let few homeless Europeans take over their precious Palestine, and the same idiots allowed Iraq's down fall .
D**th to all gutless Arabs.
I was in training around 1978 with these low lives in u.s.
even then I called them lizard eating bast****ds.
Then i got warning from my commander for a use of language , I said we are gonna fight these bas***ds one day might as well be now!

Don't i feel flatered.

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تزول الجبال ولا تزل عض على ناجذك اعر الله جمجمتك تدفى في الارض قدمك ارم ببصرك اقصى القوم و غض بصرك و اعلم ان النصر من عند الله سبحانه
امير المؤمنين علي عليه السلام

Sokuy30
09-17-2007, 07:32 AM
Don't i feel flatered.

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تزول الجبال ولا تزل عض على ناجذك اعر الله جمجمتك تدفى في الارض قدمك ارم ببصرك اقصى القوم و غض بصرك و اعلم ان النصر من عند الله سبحانه
امير المؤمنين علي عليه السلام
I am glad you brought my statement here.
Thanks brother

Khaybar
09-17-2007, 12:03 PM
I am glad you brought my statement here.
Thanks brother

You are very welcome, just don't generalise Arabs, most of us are just as sick of those kings as you are.

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تزول الجبال ولا تزل عض على ناجذك اعر الله جمجمتك تدفى في الارض قدمك ارم ببصرك اقصى القوم و غض بصرك و اعلم ان النصر من عند الله سبحانه
امير المؤمنين علي عليه السلام

oldwolf
09-17-2007, 02:27 PM
and another thing.. we have ARVAND ROOD not shatte-al-arab ,thats the name for thousond years,for me not important what they call her but because of the policy behind it,everybody should say her right name

Kermanshah1
09-17-2007, 03:10 PM
I got 2 questions.
1.PARSI PRIDE, why do you have a Nazi in your Avatar?
2.Ameer, how come there are people on this forum like anti-Jihad and siker by wich it sais they are banned but they still can post?

IR.IRAN
09-17-2007, 03:14 PM
2.Ameer, how come there are people on this forum like anti-Jihad and siker by wich it sais they are banned but they still can post?

they are probably people that had posted before they got banned

Sokuy30
09-17-2007, 03:38 PM
they are probably people that had posted before they got banned
IF THEY ARE IRANIAN LET THEM POST , NO BAN FOR IRANIAN BLOOD ,
WE ARE THE SUNSHINE OF WORLD AND WILL BE HEROS SOON,
THEN WORLD WILL SING THE SONGS FOR US.
LET THEM TALK WHATEVER IS IN THEIR HEART.
HELL WITH ISRAEL AND THE KINGS!
I HATE TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT , IF I DID I WOULD SEND IT TO NY TIMES AND WASHINGTON POST.

rabs
09-17-2007, 03:49 PM
IF THEY ARE IRANIAN LET THEM POST , NO BAN FOR IRANIAN BLOOD ,
WE ARE THE SUNSHINE OF WORLD AND WILL BE HEROS SOON,
THEN WORLD WILL SING THE SONGS FOR US.
LET THEM TALK WHATEVER IS IN THEIR HEART.
HELL WITH ISRAEL AND THE KINGS!
I HATE TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT , IF I DID I WOULD SEND IT TO NY TIMES AND WASHINGTON POST.


Are you high?

Sokuy30
09-17-2007, 04:17 PM
Are you high?
I will be soon when my brothers will be king of the hill,

PARSI PRIDE
09-18-2007, 12:45 AM
IF THEY ARE IRANIAN LET THEM POST , NO BAN FOR IRANIAN BLOOD ,
WE ARE THE SUNSHINE OF WORLD AND WILL BE HEROS SOON,
THEN WORLD WILL SING THE SONGS FOR US.
LET THEM TALK WHATEVER IS IN THEIR HEART.
HELL WITH ISRAEL AND THE KINGS!
I HATE TO BE POLITICALLY CORRECT , IF I DID I WOULD SEND IT TO NY TIMES AND WASHINGTON POST.
stronggggggggggggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the best statement I have heard in a long time

Kermanshah1
09-18-2007, 10:26 AM
stronggggggggggggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the best statement I have heard in a long time

But why do you have a nazi in your avatar?

Iranian Guards
09-18-2007, 11:48 AM
But why do you have a nazi in your avatar? nazi parsi pride... make the whole world persian, parsi

Nubian Warrior
09-18-2007, 01:20 PM
nazi parsi pride... make the whole world persian, parsi

The whole world huh? That sounds like totalitarianism to me. BTW the so-called nazi symbol is an ancient Nubian symbol for enlightenment via the sunburst on top of the pyramid. The modern day symbol represents destruction hence it being backwards facing to its original form.

Kermanshah1
09-18-2007, 02:21 PM
nazi parsi pride... make the whole world persian, parsi

But we are not Nazi's and don't want to be Nazi's either.

PARSI PRIDE
09-18-2007, 07:07 PM
I got 2 questions.
1.PARSI PRIDE, why do you have a Nazi in your Avatar?
2.Ameer, how come there are people on this forum like anti-Jihad and siker by wich it sais they are banned but they still can post?

2 REASONS
ONE I admire their fighting capabilities , history and mentality
TWO I agree with their Ideas towards certain kind of people .

PARSI PRIDE
09-18-2007, 07:10 PM
But we are not Nazi's and don't want to be Nazi's either.

I appreciate your views

Kermanshah1
09-19-2007, 02:23 AM
2 REASONS
ONE I admire their fighting capabilities , history and mentality
TWO I agree with their Ideas towards certain kind of people .

I also admire their fighting capabilities in WW2 but their mentality and sertain Ideas...


THIS WAS POST 1000!!!

Sokuy30
09-19-2007, 07:37 AM
I also admire their fighting capabilities in WW2 but their mentality and sertain Ideas...
I tell you one thing though ,

THIS WAS POST 1000!!!


They knew what they were doing, getting rid of cancerous tumors, but their methods was a little cruel.
Isn't what you all want in Iran now?

Kermanshah1
09-19-2007, 10:45 AM
They knew what they were doing, getting rid of cancerous tumors, but their methods was a little cruel.
Isn't what you all want in Iran now?

Are you calling Jews cancerous tumors?

And no that is not what we want in Iran, we want first of all to destroy the Zionst entity wich is occupying Jerusalem and secondly we want the American empire to withdraw it's forces from the Muslim world.

Iranian Guards
09-19-2007, 10:48 AM
Are you calling Jews cancerous tumors?

And no that is not what we want in Iran, we want first of all to destroy the Zionst entity wich is occupying Jerusalem and secondly we want the American empire to withdraw it's forces from the Muslim world.
zionists are cancer for the world

Kermanshah1
09-19-2007, 10:55 AM
zionists are cancer for the world

Agreed, I support Hamas and Jihad in their suicide bombings against Zionists but although many Jews support the Zionists they are not responsable for the eveil deeds of Zionists

Jan
09-19-2007, 11:16 AM
Are you calling Jews cancerous tumors?

And no that is not what we want in Iran, we want first of all to destroy the Zionst entity wich is occupying Jerusalem and secondly we want the American empire to withdraw it's forces from the Muslim world.

As long as they don't put an american foot on Iranian territory, I'm happy. Iraqs problem is Iraqs problem, not all muslims.

rabs
09-19-2007, 04:09 PM
TWO I agree with their Ideas towards certain kind of people .

You realize we are talking about the Nazis right? This is before Israel existed? You sir have some serious issues you need to work out.

Kermanshah1
09-19-2007, 04:11 PM
You realize we are talking about the Nazis right? This is before Israel existed? You sir have some serious issues you need to work out.

Apparantly he is a Nazi...

PARSI PRIDE
09-19-2007, 04:13 PM
I have to disagree, the jews are responsible for all the problems out there today we are facing.
you have understand is their mentality is as long they can keep conflict in the middell east they are ok . look at what they did between the west bank and gaza, hamas and abbass all the arabs are add odds either with themselves or with us .
all the financial scams in the world history it has jews behind it they are thiefs.

look at the current morgage melt down in the US it is the jews behind it.

look at the movie 300 it is a jew behind

look at the lady that was stabbed in NYC this is all because of zionist media

portraying us as savages . how there these f,,,kng zionists to say cyrus the

great was a homo and a savage?

I have said before there are alot of uneducated stupid people in the US and the west they watch 300 and they want to kill a persian .

remember something and do not forget a jew has alligance to jew town israel before Iran even though they are PERSIAN jews . they will stick a knife in your eye first chance they get
Why do you think Hitler slammed them so hard? Because they raped and pillaged the Germans after their defeat in world war I. Three Jews decided
the german fate.

PARSI PRIDE
09-19-2007, 04:21 PM
You realize we are talking about the Nazis right? This is before Israel existed? You sir have some serious issues you need to work out.

I did not say lets start the ovens and the gas chambers again . can you tell me when was the last time state of Israel did any acts of humanitarian aid to any country ?
never
I think they need to be contained that is exactly what the regime in Iran is trying to do. we care less about the arabs more about ourselves not allowing
Israel to rape and steal almost everything.

I think if the jews were the models of rightfulness and would try to help instead of destroy we would have a different world today.

they are trying to wipe out my kind and I am not stupid to close my eyes.
who do you think is the biggest lobby groups in washington> who do you think is pushing for a war with Iran? US no Israel
they are trying to wipe out my motherland

Sokuy30
09-19-2007, 11:18 PM
I did not say lets start the ovens and the gas chambers again . can you tell me when was the last time state of Israel did any acts of humanitarian aid to any country ?
never
I think they need to be contained that is exactly what the regime in Iran is trying to do. we care less about the arabs more about ourselves not allowing
Israel to rape and steal almost everything.

I think if the jews were the models of rightfulness and would try to help instead of destroy we would have a different world today.

they are trying to wipe out my kind and I am not stupid to close my eyes.
who do you think is the biggest lobby groups in washington> who do you think is pushing for a war with Iran? US no Israel
they are trying to wipe out my motherland


I agree with you fully , We need to stop this madness,
one side says no war , another says this mockery has gone too long it is our duty as new generation to end this and let them have it. I believe they will crumble like a sand in the beach. In wwII only in Europe they were unsafe ,
after this stupidity if happens nowhere will be safe for these blood suckers.

Mahati
09-20-2007, 03:51 PM
I did not say lets start the ovens and the gas chambers again . can you tell me when was the last time state of Israel did any acts of humanitarian aid to any country ?
never
I think they need to be contained that is exactly what the regime in Iran is trying to do. we care less about the arabs more about ourselves not allowing
Israel to rape and steal almost everything.

I think if the jews were the models of rightfulness and would try to help instead of destroy we would have a different world today.

they are trying to wipe out my kind and I am not stupid to close my eyes.
who do you think is the biggest lobby groups in washington> who do you think is pushing for a war with Iran? US no Israel
they are trying to wipe out my motherland

Funny how I don't see any Israeli leaders or US leaders talking about wiping out Iran. However I do see Iranian leaders saying things like...

“Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury,”

"Iran is ready to transfer nuclear know-how to the
Islamic countries due to their need.”

"no doubt the new wave [of attacks] in Palestine will soon wipe off this disgraceful blot from the face of the Islamic world.”

"[Bahman Badiee of the Iranian Society of South Florida said,] Iranian-Americans have recognized the urgent calling of their native land and will gather in New York City to once again reject the leader of the mullahs' tyrannical regime and its ideology of terror. ... Iran's UN seat belongs to the Iranian nation, and not to Tehran's terrorist president and his delegation.”

"They have invented a myth that Jews were massacred and place this above God, religions and the prophets."

"The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land. As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map."

"If the West does not support Israel, this regime will be toppled. As it has lost its raison d' tre, Israel will be annihilated."

"Israel is a tyrannical regime that will one day will be destroyed."

"Israel is a rotten, dried tree that will be annihilated in one storm."

"[There is] no significant need for the United States."

"Could [9/11] be planned and executed without coordination with intelligence and security services - or their extensive infiltration? Of course this is just an educated guess. Why have the various aspects of the attacks been kept secret? Why are we not told who botched their responsibilities? And, why aren't those responsible and the guilty parties identified and put on trial?"

"We believe that accurate dissemination of news and information is necessary for political growth and awareness as well as effective interaction among nations in today's world."

Now here is a comparison from quotes from Hitler....

"I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work." - Adolph Hitler, Reichstag speech in 1936

"....the personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living shape of the Jew." - Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf, Vol. 1, Chapter 11

"This infection of our blood, which hundreds of thousands of our people overlook as though blind, is, moreover, promoted systematically by the Jews today. Systematically these black parasites of the nations ravish our innocent young, blonde girls and thus destroy something that can never again be replaced in this world." - Adolf Hitler

"If only one country, for whatever reason, tolerates a Jewish family in it, that family will become the germ center for fresh sedition. If one little Jewish boy survives without any Jewish education, with no synagogue and no Hebrew school, it [Judaism] is in his soul. Even if there had never been a synagogue or a Jewish school or an Old Testament, the Jewish spirit would still exist and exert its influence. It has been there from the beginning and there is no Jew, not a single one, who does not personify it." - Adolf Hitler in a conversation with Croatian Foreign Minister General Kvaternik on 21 July 1941

"The internal expurgation of the Jewish spirit is not possible in any platonic way. For the Jewish spirit as the product of the Jewish person. Unless we expel the Jewish people. Unless we expel the Jewish people soon, they will have judaized our people within a very short time." - Adolf Hitler in a speech at Nuremberg, January 13, 1923

There are many more quotes of this nature by Hitler, who quite openly spoke about his hatred and distain for the Jewish people, years prior to the holocaust. But perhaps even Hitler wasn't as emboldened, defiant and openly brazen as Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is today. With Hezbollah, al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations doing Teheran's bidding, a large conventional military, a nuclear program marching down the road towards weaponization, and long-range ballistic missiles capable of deadly strikes, Ahmadinejad's Iran may pose a greater threat then Hitler did prior to September 1939.

Worth pointing out, as Jeff Kouba noted in a Security Watchtower briefing yesterday, is the fact that Iran's vision of hostility isn't exclusive towards Israel by any imagination.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1677691/posts

Kermanshah1
09-21-2007, 10:40 AM
Funny how I don't see any Israeli leaders or US leaders talking about wiping out Iran. However I do see Iranian leaders saying things like...

Because Israel is an ilegal state.

Iranian Guards
09-21-2007, 11:42 AM
what is israel? where was israel 60 years ago? :roflmao3:

Sokuy30
09-21-2007, 04:06 PM
what is israel? where was israel 60 years ago? :roflmao3:

I think we should ask them to repeat another 40 years of wondering in desert,
That will solve palestinan problem at last for 40 years.

Kermanshah1
09-22-2007, 12:38 PM
When do you guys think Israel will finaly come to an end? And will we see that day?

Sokuy30
09-22-2007, 09:10 PM
When do you guys think Israel will finaly come to an end? And will we see that day?
Pretty soon , Americans are fed up with that hell hole.
They have started almost every war.
Benjamin freedman.com
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/israel/freedman.htm

Kermanshah1
09-23-2007, 01:28 PM
Pretty soon , Americans are fed up with that hell hole.
They have started almost every war.
Benjamin freedman.com
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/israel/freedman.htm

I think in the next 50 years.

persis000
07-24-2008, 11:37 PM
Are you calling Jews cancerous tumors?

And no that is not what we want in Iran, we want first of all to destroy the Zionst entity wich is occupying Jerusalem and secondly we want the American empire to withdraw it's forces from the Muslim world.


This cancerous tumor as you called it is European and American peoples problem whom there nations are taken hostage by Zionist Jews not in Iran... so let them worry about it...IMO
Iran needs to worry about these back stabbing coward Arabs Shiks and then how to kick out the foreigners out of Persian Gulf... as once shah Abbas did to Portuguese, these are our priorities for now...
To do that Iran need at least another 10 to 20 years of peace and progress... in order to build up her scientific and industrial bases up to & beyond the modern standards of today...

RH53D_AMCM
07-25-2008, 07:08 PM
Actually, I sort of like what the Hellenes did to Xerxes on land and at sea. Sort of a fitting end....Perhaps the Spartans and other Greeks at Platea and Salamis were secretly Zionists?

Good for them.

Have a great weekend.

arri
07-25-2008, 08:40 PM
Actually, I sort of like what the Hellenes did to Xerxes on land and at sea. Sort of a fitting end....Perhaps the Spartans and other Greeks at Platea and Salamis were secretly Zionists?

Good for them.

Have a great weekend.

What would you call a US military operation that mopped up a heavily armed and exceptionally well fortified force of 300 supported by 700 cavalry and another 700 auxiliary in 3 days?

persis000
07-26-2008, 01:27 AM
When do you guys think Israel will finaly come to an end? And will we see that day?

Well...let see... the Kingdom of United Israel lasted from 1020-926 BCE
and centuries later Hasmonean Kingdom 164-104 BCE ...
if we look at the trend, considering 60 yrs has already come an gone... perhaps another 40 yrs the most...