Taiwanese march to back UN bid

[Sinosphere]

At least 100,000 people have marched in Taiwan in support of a government plan to hold a referendum on joining the UN under the name Taiwan.

The UN has rejected previous bids from the island to join the body under its official name, Republic of China.

The bids anger Beijing, which sees Taiwan as a breakaway province. China has vowed to use force if Taiwan took steps towards formal independence.

China's opposition means Taiwan's bids for a UN seat are certain to fail.

The march, in the southern city of Kaohsiung, attracted hundreds of thousands of people according to organisers, while police said 100,000 took part.

Switched recognition

Kaohsiung is a power base for the ruling Democratic Progressive Party's (DPP) presidential candidate Frank Hsieh.

The government intends to time the referendum with the presidential vote next March.

Analysts say the DPP hopes the referendum debate will shore up its support in the elections.

"Give Taiwan a chance to join the UN," Mr Hsieh told a crowd in Kaohsiung before the march.

Independence-leaning President Chen Shui-bian said Taiwan had "every right to be a full UN member, standing on equal footing with other member states".

The opposition Kuomintang (KMT) also favours a referendum on joining the UN, but under the island's official name Republic of China.

The KMT held a separate rally for the central city of Taichung attended by its presidential candidate Ma Ying-jeou which attracted an estimated 50,000 people.

The UN switched it recognition from Taiwan to mainland China in 1971.

China's President Hu Jintao has warned that the plan could result in a "possibly dangerous period" for the region.

The United States has also warned that the move is unnecessarily provocative and could heighten tensions in the region.

Most UN members have diplomatic ties with China and would not want to anger Beijing by backing Taiwan's UN application.

BBC News.

[Sinosphere]

This is an unfortunate step.

[retaxis]

the TIers need something better to do other then trying to get their homes blown up. America is doing a lot to prevent Taiwan Tiers from making an independent announcement but if Taiwan does not listen to America then America won't help Taiwan simple.

[Kiaar]

In the end if Taiwan does something to provoke China, I seriously doubt the US & Co. will risk a war over it, and Taiwan will be in serious trouble.

[Sinosphere]

In the end if Taiwan does something to provoke China, I seriously doubt the US & Co. will risk a war over it, and Taiwan will be in serious trouble.

I think this is not the will of the Taiwanese people.

I think it is more of a political ploy. The Taiwan Preseident is nearing the end of his term. He doesn't want to go down as a lame duck. Therefore, he initiated this referendum.

If he succeeds in doing this, which I doubt.

This would put Sino-US relations and possibly military on a collision course.

[Parmenides]

I think this is not the will of the Taiwanese people.

I think it is more of a political ploy. The Taiwan Preseident is nearing the end of his term. He doesn't want to go down as a lame duck. Therefore, he initiated this referendum.

If he succeeds in doing this, which I doubt.

This would put Sino-US relations and possibly military on a collision course.I disagree. I think the Taiwanese people would like freedom and recognition and independence like everyone else, but for a long time they were afraid from china. Becaus nothing happend for many years, the fear is lessoning, so they express their feelings.

Anyway, Taiwan is a democracy. If this is not the will of the Taiwanese people, they will show this come election time.

[Sinosphere]

I disagree. I think the Taiwanese people would like freedom and recognition and independence like everyone else, but for a long time they were afraid from china. Becaus nothing happend for many years, the fear is lessoning, so they express their feelings.

Anyway, Taiwan is a democracy. If this is not the will of the Taiwanese people, they will show this come election time.

Interesting, thanks for your view.

However, I think it won't succeed since Taiwan's main ally the US already expressed their views and are against this referendum.

[Vinay]

the TIers need something better to do other then trying to get their homes blown up. America is doing a lot to prevent Taiwan Tiers from making an independent announcement but if Taiwan does not listen to America then America won't help Taiwan simple.

Dont care what you think. you chinese are bloody arrogant that you can blow up people's homes if they dont listen to your dictators/presisidents/comrades.

Well guess what, we shall see who's house get's blown up. Taiwan is million times stonger than Red china and more advanced too.

They just need some help from the big bully which US is sure to provide.
So Retaxis, sweet dreams buddy, and good luck dodging those B2's tonite.

[not-now]

Dont care what you think. you chinese are bloody arrogant that you can blow up people's homes if they dont listen to your dictators/presisidents/comrades.

Well guess what, we shall see who's house get's blown up. Taiwan is million times stonger than Red china and more advanced too.

They just need some help from the big bully which US is sure to provide.
So Retaxis, sweet dreams buddy, and good luck dodging those B2's tonite.

bro you sound angry yes i agree I hope nobody's homes are blown up but I'm surprised I don't usually see these kind of aggressive posts from you we don't need another indo-china flame war :err2:
whatever happens lets just hope it's solved from peaceful means.:)

[Overseer]

Dont care what you think. you chinese are bloody arrogant that you can blow up people's homes if they dont listen to your dictators/presisidents/comrades.

Well guess what, we shall see who's house get's blown up. Taiwan is million times stonger than Red china and more advanced too.

They just need some help from the big bully which US is sure to provide.
So Retaxis, sweet dreams buddy, and good luck dodging those B2's tonite.

LOL, Wow, Vinay-the-racist strikes again.

Arrogant? Aren't you displaying arrogance yourself?? And you categorically pointing your finger at ALL CHINESE (which includes people in Taiwan, Singapore, Oversea Chinese, Mainland Chinese), as arrogant. WOW!! Excellent show of humility. And "You don't care what we think"... LOL....
:roflmao3::roflmao3:

Ofcourse, that's what the famous indian democracy teaches you. "You don't care what we think".... LOL.. I can imagine if one day you do come into position of power, what kind of leadership you will be shown.....Well....You are exactly like the arrogant dictator that you so despise.

retaxis is one man. He is one in 1.3 billion. For you to categorically said all Chinese as arrogant, shows your racist true color. Heh. All your excuse of "ohhh I am not racist.." seems to all fall flat. So what do you say Vinay??

And I don't see why you get so emotional over this issue, since this is none of your business. If anything, this is between Taiwan and China.

[Sinosphere]

you chinese are bloody arrogant


This is unfortunate.

[Overseer]

Interesting, thanks for your view.

However, I think it won't succeed since Taiwan's main ally the US already expressed their views and are against this referendum.


Sinosphere, the last time referendum was held, and it was defeated.
This coming election it is expected to be defeated again, and Pan Blue coalition is also expected to win.

[Sinosphere]

Sinosphere, the last time referendum was held, and it was defeated.
This coming election it is expected to be defeated again, and Pan Blue coalition is also expected to win.

I think if the KMT wins it would reduce the tension on the Taiwan Strait.

[Overseer]

the TIers need something better to do other then trying to get their homes blown up. America is doing a lot to prevent Taiwan Tiers from making an independent announcement but if Taiwan does not listen to America then America won't help Taiwan simple.


Retaxis, your attitude is not the way to go. I believe nobody wants war on both side of the strait. And peaceful reconcilliation is the only way to go for the eventual unification.

[Overseer]

After reading all your posts retaxis, I retract my previous quote to you, since you are NOT a chinese. Please stop pretending to be one. You are probably Vinay impersonating a Chinese.

[aryan]

LOL, Wow, Vinay-the-racist strikes again.

LOL overseer the ultra racist has struck

Arrogant? Aren't you displaying arrogance yourself?? And you categorically pointing your finger at ALL CHINESE (which includes people in Taiwan, Singapore, Oversea Chinese, Mainland Chinese), as arrogant. WOW!! Excellent show of humility. And "You don't care what we think"... LOL....
:roflmao3::roflmao3:

Well sir if you knew a bit of english u would have figured out he is not cursing the Chinese as an ethnic group but the chinese communists(aka govt and its servants)
"you chinese are bloody arrogant that you can blow up people's homes if they dont listen to your dictators/presisidents/comrades."

and I totally agree with that...

Ofcourse, that's what the famous indian democracy teaches you. "You don't care what we think".... LOL.. I can imagine if one day you do come into position of power, what kind of leadership you will be shown.....Well....You are exactly like the arrogant dictator that you so despise.

Duh he is not.. we are in democracy where even the communists and non atheist and non Indians can become heads of state.. for eg.. the current Head of Congress party is a roman catholic of Italian origin, Nehru was of Kashmiri origin(if you consider Kashmir not to be a part of India), Indira gandhi was of persian-Indian origion, 3 PMS incl the present ones are of West Punjab/Pakistani origin.. cheers..

He has ultra radical views against communists and I am empathetic to his POV.. he can say whatever he wants till it is not against the Supreme court of India, the Constitution of India and The national Symbols of India etc...
Cheers..

retaxis is one man. He is one in 1.3 billion. For you to categorically said all Chinese as arrogant, shows your racist true color.
He has called the Chinese govt and its servants(yes we use the word govt servant not offensive but for ur sake I shall use comrades) arrogants.. Learn english first..

Heh. All your excuse of "ohhh I am not racist.." seems to all fall flat. So what do you say Vinay??
Read above//

And I don't see why you get so emotional over this issue, since this is none of your business. If anything, this is between Taiwan and China.

It is his business as to what goes on in the world... it is his wish.. if he wishes to side with Taiwan over China his wish.. if he calls ur govt arrogant his wish.. he has the right to freedom of expression cheers...

[aryan]

This is unfortunate.

it is not he has called ur govt and its servants/comrades etc..arrogant and that his view shared by many.. It is unfortunate that you will have trouble understanding it because of your unacknowledged lack of understanding a foreign language and democratic setup... cheers

[aryan]

After reading all your posts retaxis, I retract my previous quote to you, since you are NOT a chinese. Please stop pretending to be one.
Retaxis, your attitude is not the way to go. I believe nobody wants war on both side of the strait. And peaceful reconcilliation is the only way to go for the eventual unification.

I have been saying teh same thing..

You are an idiot, you probably is Vinay impersonating a Chinese.

Please refrain from using insults I used the word dumb once for a Chinese member and that member complained to the mod and it resulted in an infraction I will not return the favour but ask you to exercise restraint and peaceful reconcillation..

cheers

[Overseer]

LOL overseer the ultra racist has struck



Wow, another racist comes along...!! What a surprise!!



Well sir if you knew a bit of english u would have figured out he is not cursing the Chinese as an ethnic group but the chinese communists(aka govt and its servants)
"you chinese are bloody arrogant that you can blow up people's homes if they dont listen to your dictators/presisidents/comrades."

and I totally agree with that...


:roflmao3::roflmao3:'
That statement is as clear as day that it is categorically racist.
Let me ask you if I was to swap out the word with Indian, I suppose you won't call it racist right?

"you Indians are bloody arrogant that you can blow up people's homes if they dont listen to your dictators/presisidents/comrades."

:roflmao3::roflmao3:



Duh he is not.. we are in democracy where even the communists and non atheist and non Indians can become heads of state.. for eg.. the current Head of Congress party is a roman catholic of Italian origin, Nehru was of Kashmiri origin(if you consider Kashmir not to be a part of India), Indira gandhi was of persian-Indian origion, 3 PMS incl the present ones are of West Punjab/Pakistani origin.. cheers..


Side stepping the question that he is an arrogant racist, while living in the "so called largest democracy", who "doesn't care what other thinks". I guess democrasy works in a mysterious way in India.
:roflmao3::roflmao3:



He has ultra radical views against communists and I am empathetic to his POV.. he can say whatever he wants till it is not against the Supreme court of India, the Constitution of India and The national Symbols of India etc...
Cheers..


Right..... oh I see, so not respecting other's view by categorically making racist remarks on all chinese is not violation of Indian constitution. Ofcourse it is not!!
:roflmao3::roflmao3:


He has called the Chinese govt and its servants(yes we use the word govt servant not offensive but for ur sake I shall use comrades) arrogants.. Learn english first..

Nope, he said "You chinese", He can said "retaxis", but since he is not making any effort to isolate to one person, he is making a blanket racist statement to ALL CHINESE, even if he is excluding everyone except mainland Chinese. That's 1.3 billion people you are talking about. A blanket and racist statement.



It is his business as to what goes on in the world... it is his wish.. if he wishes to side with Taiwan over China his wish.. if he calls ur govt arrogant his wish.. he has the right to freedom of expression cheers...


Ofcoure, and I am pointing out how arrogant it is to blanketly called all Chinese (even just mainlanders) as arrogant. But you defending him shows your exact racist view as him. I guess disparaging Chinese at any chance you get is what you feel your god given right correct?

[Overseer]

it is not he has called ur govt and its servants/comrades etc..arrogant and that his view shared by many.. It is unfortunate that you will have trouble understanding it because of your unacknowledged lack of understanding a foreign language and democratic setup... cheers

:roflmao3::roflmao3:
So you are the English language expert now? WOW!! Even more proclaimation from aryan!!!

Wow, not only are you a "morally superior" pro-slave ownership (slave master), you are an english language expert now too!

So we are all illterate who don't undddaastand "igolish" right?? :roflmao3:

Honestly, we didn't mistaken what he said, anyone who read his message would get his racist meaning. You defending him only shows you are in the same racist boat as him.

It's okay, you can continue to call us "names". Slander us whatever you like, it only reflects poorly on you.

[aryan]

Wow, another racist comes along...!! What a surprise!!

could nt you come up with something more creative I am disappointed in you my ??? friend(aka where are you from sure as hell you aint Indian lol)

:roflmao3::roflmao3:'
That statement is as clear as day that it is categorically racist.
Let me ask you if I was to swap out the word with Indian, I suppose you won't call it racist right?
"you Indians are bloody arrogant that you can blow up people's homes if they dont listen to your dictators/presisidents/comrades."

:roflmao3::roflmao3:


Well if you are too call my politicians that I have totally agree with you..
me and "Indianguy"( his id) were debating just that he told me how could you insult and abuse the political leaders of India...

So if we were followers of a dictator acting arbritrarily I suppose(I am a rational guy but sometimes am impulsive too, so I am writing suppose) I would have probably agreed with you on your views on Indian followers of dictators..

Side stepping the question that he is a arrogant little racist, while living in the "so called largest democracy", who "doesn't care what other thinks". I guess democrasy works in a mysterious way in India.
:roflmao3::roflmao3:

Well he can make his voice heard in a democracy like India by
a) exercising his adult franchise aka vote
b) going to the courts and filing PIL's
c) support of Media
d) by complaining to the commissions if his elected rep is an idiot
e) By filing questions to the elected reps..

Right..... oh I see, so not respecting other's view by categorically making racist remarks on all chinese is not violation of Indian constitution. Ofcourse it is not!!
:roflmao3::roflmao3:

well if a Chinese person comes and complains to the court and court finds his views against the law he will be penalised..
for eg 4 spectators in India v/s Australia cricket match held in India were fined for being racist against Australians.. cheers..

Nope, he said "You chinese", He can said "retaxis", but since he is not making any effort to isolate to one person, he is making a blanket racist statement to ALL CHINESE, even if he is excluding everyone except mainland Chinese. That's 1.3 billion people you are talking about. A blanket and racist statement.

Well sir I don't know what you infer but what I inferred from this statement was.. that he meant all the communists/comrades/govt servants...
You can ask a third party for another view.. ask Vinay for clarification but this is what I inferred and English is my primary language so I don't think I will be wrong but who knows...


Ofcoure, and I am pointing out how arrogant it is to blanketly called all Chinese (even just mainlanders) as arrogant. But you defending him shows your exact racist view as him. I guess disparaging Chinese at any chance you get is what you feel your god given right correct?

On the contrary I have always admired the Chinese people and my progress you may start digging up my posts... unlike Mr. Rextasis neo Chinese who bashes Indians even in my response to him you can see I have not been racist..

So in effect what I am saying is Vinay is ultra anti-Communists and I am anti-communism.. incl those of Indian, Chinese etc origin...

Cheers...

[Overseer]

could nt you come up with something more creative I am disappointed in you my ??? friend(aka where are you from sure as hell you aint Indian lol)

I am being specific. I don't do "creative slandering" like you.


Well if you are too call my politicians that I have totally agree with you..me and "Indianguy"( his id) were debating just that he told me how could you insult and abuse the political leaders of India...


I have my opinion of political leaders, that's opinion. I didn't slander a whole race like you and Vinay exhibit here. That is racist. If you can't differentiate the two issues, I suggest you check your "morally superior compass" again.


So if we were followers of a dictator acting arbritrarily I suppose(I am a rational guy but sometimes am impulsive too, so I am writing suppose) I would have probably agreed with you on your views on Indian followers of dictators..


So, why are you defending him?? Do you subscribe to his racist ideological view too?



Well he can make his voice heard in a democracy like India by
a) exercising his adult franchise aka vote
b) going to the courts and filing PIL's
c) support of Media
d) by complaining to the commissions if his elected rep is an idiot
e) By filing questions to the elected reps..



Nothing wrong with that, I am just calling out a racist when I see one.



well if a Chinese person comes and complains to the court and court finds his views against the law he will be penalised..
for eg 4 spectators in India v/s Australia cricket match held in India were fined for being racist against Australians.. cheers..


Well, I am not surprised, since racist bigots exist in every society.



Well sir I don't know what you infer but what I inferred from this statement was.. that he meant all the communists/comrades/govt servants...
You can ask a third party for another view.. ask Vinay for clarification but this is what I inferred and English is my primary language so I don't think I will be wrong but who knows...



English is my primary language too. And I have no doubt his statement is a blanket racist statement. If he has problem with retaxis's view, he should address it to retaxi. To call every single Chinese arrogant, is more than racist blanket statement. Like I say before, if you can't differentiate racist remark in Vinay's view of a singular person and make a blanket statement on whole race, I don't know where you learn your English from.


On the contrary I have always admired the Chinese people and my progress you may start digging up my posts... unlike Mr. Rextasis neo Chinese who bashes Indians even in my response to him you can see I have not been racist..


I get a feeling Retaxis is not Chinese, he is impersonating a chinese, with his grasp of chinese history seems shaky at best and his view at times seems anti-chinese to say the least, I think you should either address his remark singularly, or just ignore his remarks.





So in effect what I am saying is Vinay is ultra anti-Communists and I am anti-communism.. incl those of Indian, Chinese etc origin...

Cheers...

You and Vinay has always making it clear who you are bashing.. it is the "CHINESE" not the communists. Particularly, I found it troubling to see you disparaging Chinese everytime you get, even in threads that doesn't concern China.

Even if you have problem with so called "communists", I suggest you take it up with the Indian Communist in your own country first. To start slandering another nation pointlessly using political ideology as excuse because of your own bigot political view in your own country, doesn't carry any weight. Second of all, I never heard you or Vinay holding the same "yardstick" as much on North Korean, Cubans, East Germans, Vietnamese, Burmese etc if at all. It just shows by contrast, that your own racist ideology is pepetrating such hatre behind your veiled speeches. If you truely "hate" communists, you would do the same to all the aforementioned countries too right?? History in your comments shows otherwise.


If I was to hold the same yardstick as you and disparaging India using "communist India" as excuse to disparaging the whole of a nation, how would you feel? Ofcourse, you already know how you would feel, after our last encounter, you do know it doesn't feel good does it?

Like I have said to Vinay many times before...mind your own business, China and Taiwan is OUR OWN business (I am from Taiwan incase you wanna know, I have more rights than anyone to comment on this issue). You got enough on your own table to chew with. And I'll leave you a quote from a great man from your great country.

"satyam bruyat, asatyam na bruyat, priyam bruyat napriyam na bruyat"
-
"Speak the truth, stick to the pleasant, you don't need to dwell on unpleasant truths, nor articulate pleasant untruths." - ?????

I will let you guess who said it.

[Sinosphere]

it is not he has called ur govt and its servants/comrades etc..arrogant and that his view shared by many.. It is unfortunate that you will have trouble understanding it because of your unacknowledged lack of understanding a foreign language and democratic setup... cheers

So it is my understanding of language again, this is unfortunate.

[aryan]

I am being specific. I don't do "creative slandering" like you.

Creative slandering and specific slandering are after all Slandering!!

I have my opinion of political leaders, that's opinion. I didn't slander a whole race like you and Vinay exhibit here. That racist. If you can't differentiate the two issues, I suggest you check your "morally superior compass" again.

Well I have had many past engagements on this forum minus you where Vinay has been proChinese anti Chinese govt...

For another perspective have a look at this dialogue..


Originally Posted by Dolphin
Globetrotter - I hope you're referencing the US government and not its citizens in stating, "DOWN WITH USA!!"? The bulk of US citizens are soundly against the Bush/Cheney/Neocon agenda and policies (Bush's latest 24% approval rating is indicative).

When I reference any country, I am ONLY referring to its government. People are people...there is good and bad everywhere. I wish the best for the American people, but this US admin must be impeached and prosecuted...#

http://irandefence.net/showthread.php?t=22747&page=11


I hope that you understand that neither Me and I am sure Vinay wouldnt mind me saying this that we hope for nothing but the best of the Chinese citizens though not for the Chinese govt and or communists..
If this makes us anti-communists I happily welcome this adjective but to call me a racist is something I have a major grouse against...



So, why are you defending him?? Do you subscribe to his racist ideological view too?

From what I infer if he is anti-Communists I subscribe to his view but if he explicity calls himself Anti-Chinese people.. I will distance myself from this views of his....
PS: I have many Chinese friends.. and have visited your country too.. though at present half of my family is in Guangdong attending the fair.. cheers..


Nothing wrong with that, I am just calling out a racist when I see one.

well his post was not racist but anti-communists... so u r wrong..


Well, I am not surprised, since racist bigots exist in every society. English is my primary language too.

....


And I have no doubt his statement is a blanket racist statement.

I have no doubt that his statement was not...


If he has problem with retaxis's view, he should address it to retaxi.
cool.. but if acc. to you a non Chinese person is masquerading as a Chinese it makes sense to call him out for all.. like what you did right now..

To call every single Chinese arrogant, is more than racist blanket statement.

Well a calling every single Chinese Communist arrogant in my view is not racist...


Like I say before, if you can't differentiate racist remark in Vinay's view of a singular person and make a blanket statement on whole race, I don't know where you learn your English from.

Delhi Public School, Delhi, India
University of Sheffield, Sheffield, UK
University of Nottingham, Nottingham, UK

Cheers..


I get a feeling Retaxis is not Chinese, he is impersonating a chinese, with his grasp of chinese history seems shaky at best and his view at times seems anti-chinese to say the least, I think you should either address his remark singularly, or just ignore his remarks.

Cool


You and Vinay has always making it clear who you are bashing.. it is the "CHINESE" not the communists. Particularly, I found it troubling to see you disparaging Chinese everytime you get, even in threads that doesn't concern China.

Well point out my posts.. don't accuse.. put ur money where ur mouth is..
for everyone of ur post I Will post 10-20 where I have praised the Chinese.. cheers..

If I was to hold the same yardstick as you and disparaging India using "communist India" as excuse to disparaging the whole of a nation, how would you feel? Ofcourse, you already know how you would feel, after our last encounter, you do know it doesn't feel good does it?

Well in effect calling every chinese a communist, then calling every communist arrogant is not a very pleasant thing (though I know some peopel who consider being arrogant as a virtue.) but what he said was
""you chinese are bloody arrogant that you can blow up people's homes if they dont listen to your dictators/presisidents/comrades."

so I guess a normal Chinese or the overseas Chinese or any one of Chinese origin is not blowing up people's home nor is bloody arrogant and nor is on the payrolls of the govt hence they are exempt... aka non exempt are Communists and govt servants.. cheers..


Like I have said to Vinay many times before...mind your own business, China and Taiwan is OUR OWN business (I am from Taiwan incase you wanna know, I have more rights than anyone to comment on this issue). You got enough on your own table to chew on.

Mate from what I have observed from Chinese and Taiwanese people in my UNI... they don't get along.. not even hellos..

And I'll leave you a quote from a great man from your great country.
"satyam bruyat, asatyam na bruyat, priyam bruyat napriyam na bruyat"
-
"Speak the truth, stick to the pleasant, you don't need to dwell on unpleasant truths, nor articulate pleasant untruths." - ?????

I will let you guess who said it.

Well thanks I have no idea who said it though but makes sense..


I will leave a quote from a great Chinese person..

"India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border!"

Hu Shih, former Ambassador of China to USA

this is my legacy cheers..

[Nix Zion]

I think this is not the will of the Taiwanese people.


You think they would prefer to live under a communist dictatorship? Because, let's be honest, that's what China's government is.

Unfortunatley, the US would have to fight. Losing Taiwan would be the first step to the US getting kicked out of the Pacific. That would pretty much spell the end for Japan and Korea.

[Overseer]

Creative slandering and specific slandering are after all Slandering!!


Perhaps you don't understand the meaning of slandering.
I did not make up any of the fact I presented. Those things I said and presented about India, are indeed facts.



Well I have had many past engagements on this forum minus you where Vinay has been proChinese anti Chinese govt...

For another perspective have a look at this dialogue..

I hope that you understand that neither Me and I am sure Vinay wouldnt mind me saying this that we hope for nothing but the best of the Chinese citizens though not for the Chinese govt and or communists..
If this makes us anti-communists I happily welcome this adjective but to call me a racist is something I have a major grouse against...

Well, your actions seems to contradict your speech. If you "truely wishes" all the best for CHinese citizens, why are you so emotional and against peaceful resolution of Taiwan and China?? And isn't this a private issue between China and Taiwan? For Vinay to show emotional outburst at an issue COMPLETELY UNRELATED to him, seems disgenous at best. If you truely believe really believe Taiwan is an issue, why don't you recognize Kashmir as independent country first??? All of your actions just seems like seditionary speech.



From what I infer if he is anti-Communists I subscribe to his view but if he explicity calls himself Anti-Chinese people.. I will distance myself from this views of his....
PS: I have many Chinese friends.. and have visited your country too.. though at present half of my family is in Guangdong attending the fair.. cheers..


He has historically shows lack of respect to Chinese forum posters here. And his previous infractions and several (5 plus!??) bans should show you how shockingly ignorant he is. If it is Chinese issue, he is too happy to make slight remarks or making a topic here. But if one is to point out that India is the one commiting even bigger crime, he would not hesitate to abuse me or anyone who points it out, labelling us "Commies". It all comes down to his (and your) hypocritical racist view.


PS, Hah, I have many indian friend too, LOL. But having Chinese friend doesn't mean you are not a racist. Your shocking lack of understanding of China issue, language, and culture and the Chinese sensitivity shows you are probably just lying.




well his post was not racist but anti-communists... so u r wrong..

Meh, obviously, to a racist like you to blanketly slander every chinese and not see it any wrong. Even though two of us (Me, and Sinosphere) found it offensive and pointing it out to you. I would have hold you in higher esteem if you just admit the guilt and apologise on his behalf, but ofcourse, that is not going to happen. An Indian apologise to a Chinese?! LOL!

:roflmao3::roflmao3:


I have no doubt that his statement was not...

Even after I explained to you, that his remark is NOT targeted, and is obviously targeted at ALL of Chinese? Even after many Chinese here found it offensive?? Again, for a racist you would not see it wrong.


cool.. but if acc. to you a non Chinese person is masquerading as a Chinese it makes sense to call him out for all.. like what you did right now..


So, You are going to start doing that? LOL!:roflmao3:




Well a calling every single Chinese Communist arrogant in my view is not racist...

Wow, now, so you finally admit it. Even though I have pointed out to you that you don't seem to have any problem whatsoever with Cuban, Vietnamese, North Korean, etc. You single out Chinese Communist because your racist hatre. It is just abundently clear to everyone.



Delhi Public School, Delhi, India
University of Sheffield, Sheffield, UK
University of Nottingham, Nottingham, UK

Cheers..


Not bad, and I suppose you major in English? Got a PHD to show for it? Even though reading through your posts I found it hard to believe.


Well point out my posts.. don't accuse.. put ur money where ur mouth is..
for everyone of ur post I Will post 10-20 where I have praised the Chinese.. cheers..


Where? I didn't see any. LOL. :roflmao3: Its not like empty "praising" is going to make it alright. You and Vinay's INTENTION in trolling in this forum itself speaks louder than your suppose action.



Well in effect calling every chinese a communist, then calling every communist arrogant is not a very pleasant thing (though I know some peopel who consider being arrogant as a virtue.) but what he said was
""you chinese are bloody arrogant that you can blow up people's homes if they dont listen to your dictators/presisidents/comrades."

Again, I found it shocking you went to the aforemention universities, while you could read Vinay's message as no racist. "You Chinese" not "You communist Chinese", "listen to YOUR dictator". It is abundently clear it is a blanket term. The fact is only minority of Chinese in China are actually "communist". Research a bit and you will find less than 5% of Chinese population are actually holder of Communist membership. So what Vinay is saying is exactly what he meant, a blanket term. It shows his ignorant racist view.



so I guess a normal Chinese or the overseas Chinese or any one of Chinese origin is not blowing up people's home nor is bloody arrogant and nor is on the payrolls of the govt hence they are exempt... aka non exempt are Communists and govt servants.. cheers..


Again, let me repeat, there are 1.3 billion people in China, Vinay and you are holding the 5% as 100%. Vinay made it VERY CLEAR he didn't explain any of those in his short message. There is no need for you to make it up to defend him, it only makes you look like you are subscribing to his racist ideology hell bent on disparaging Chinese people.


Mate from what I have observed from Chinese and Taiwanese people in my UNI... they don't get along.. not even hellos..


Does that mean your singular observation, from a brief moment in ONE (okay, let's say two) university means it happens everywhere? Oh I get it, suddenly, you have become the all knowing all power ominpotent god itself.
:roflmao3: :roflmao3:

I will say that I have many mainlander Chinese friends, as much as I have my own Taiwanese friends. The relationship is amicable. To blanketly that all Chinese and Taiwanese doesn't get along, again, shows your ignorant view.


Well thanks I have no idea who said it though but makes sense..

Erm hem. I thought you would know.




I will leave a quote from a great Chinese person..

"India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border!"

Hu Shih, former Ambassador of China to USA

this is my legacy cheers..


That quote, now, that's an interesting quote. Why is it that you like to chose such quote?? Does the word "conquer" and "dominate" shows your true intention for China?? Ask yourself why you are attracted to such quote??

You do realize Hu Shih's original intention is to be conciliatory. For you to quote it shows how disgenous and your true intentions are. But it is not hard to understand since the language particularly stroke your racist/racial superiority ego.


To me, I like to believe that China and India could cooperate peacefully on a more closer level, as "Chindia". But so far, I have only see you, and Vinay, asserting your arrogant militant racist belief on various forums. The wording and the choosing of such quote seems to me as a confirmation of such naked ambition. And I don't believe that's going to make any of our countries to come any closer, particularly for you to profess such shallow racist views.

[Overseer]

You think they would prefer to live under a communist dictatorship? Because, let's be honest, that's what China's government is.

Unfortunatley, the US would have to fight. Losing Taiwan would be the first step to the US getting kicked out of the Pacific. That would pretty much spell the end for Japan and Korea.


I think US has absolutely no interest in Taiwan other than its own interest. It couldn't careless about its own people, why would it care about Taiwan?

As for living under communist dictatorship, who says that?? The current communist party has repeat that it will tolerate Taiwan as apart as long as it will unify eventually, at the time that suits Taiwan. The current status is to keep the status quo, which is exactly what majority (80%) of Taiwanese wants. We ain't idiots, we aren't going to just give up our freedom. China also does not want to attack Taiwan, unless the status quo is disturbed. So when China become democratic, Taiwan also wants to be part of it. The question is, why is India and America so keen to keep both countries apart? Why not break up East Germany and West Germany again? or categorically stop any peace negociation with North and South Korea?

[Nix Zion]

So when China become democratic, Taiwan also wants to be part of it.

Who knows when, if ever, that will be. China is a very long way from being Democratic as it stand today.

[QQ阿]

LOL overseer the ultra racist has struck

Well sir if you knew a bit of english u would have figured out he is not cursing the Chinese as an ethnic group but the chinese communists(aka govt and its servants)
"you chinese are bloody arrogant that you can blow up people's homes if they dont listen to your dictators/presisidents/comrades."

and I totally agree with that...


This is totally Indian ignorance, it is blatant that Vinay was talking about the Chinese ethnic group.

"you chinese are bloody arrogant that you can blow up people's homes if they dont listen to your dictators/presisidents/comrades."

You Chinese = He was obvious referring to Retaxis and Chinese ethinic groups and not the government because the second key phrase is...

to your dictators/presisidents/comrades."

"To Your" is the key here, because "dictators/presisidents/comrades." already represents the government. Therefore the "To your" before it represents Retaxis and Chinese in general.

[aryan]

So it is my understanding of language again, this is unfortunate.

well yes unfortunately some people will never be proficient as others in a language

[aryan]

This is totally Indian ignorance, it is blatant that Vinay was talking about the Chinese ethnic group.

lets cut 2 d chase..

"you chinese are bloody arrogant that you can blow up people's homes if they dont listen to your dictators/presisidents/comrades."

!!the bone of contention!!

You Chinese = He was obvious referring to Retaxis and Chinese ethinic groups and not the governmentbecause the second key phrase is...


at this particular refers to all the chinese.. irresp of whether dead, alive, man, woman etc..

Now mr. QQ... here u r avoiding something innit?

are bloody arrogant that you can blow up people's homes if they dont listen

Know which good Chinese will go and blow peoples home?? irresp whether is lawful or against the law

Let me list the options(very subjective but u shall soon realize why)

a) terrorists
b) armymen
c) policemen
d) govt officials
e) crazy people

to your dictators/presisidents/comrades."

"To Your" is the key here,

thank you..
to your here implies all the Chinese who are under the orders of dictators, presidents and their comrades..

aka the Chinese

because "dictators/presisidents/comrades." already represents the government.

well okay lets use our brains and throw the laws of language outside..

you listen to your family..

here family means a family.. then what are you part of a family right???

so you chinese ... your dictator

here dictator means then what are you chinese??? those who are part of the govt...

I shall now take a mock internet bow..


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thank you thank you...

if this doesnot convince you I dont know what will!!

Therefore the "To your" before it represents Retaxis and Chinese in general.

read above and if you have an iota of intelligence.. you will acknowledge that I am correct...

[aryan]

:biggrin1: :biggrin1: Perhaps you don't understand the meaning of slandering.
well I do, you piece of $$%$ .. umm this is slandering right??
LOL

I did not make up any of the fact I presented. Those things I said and presented about India, are indeed facts.

WTf.. what facts?

Well, your actions seems to contradict your speech.

I dont think so....

If you "truely wishes" all the best for CHinese citizens,

I truly wish the best for the whole world..

why are you so emotional and against peaceful resolution of Taiwan and China??

Well sir where teh eff have I said anything against peaceful resolution of Taiwan and China.. I cldnt be bothered about you two.. make peace or war.. ur business... I dont care.. I just stepped in to defend a person who was being wrongly accused of something which he didnt say.. and guess what he happened to be my countryman and a fellah commie hater(he is the more intolerant and radical one ;-) ).. and now you have adopted an anti-India/Indian stance..

dnt be so narrow minded mate...

Though I believe that communism all over the world needs to be finished... but it would take time and effort...


And isn't this a private issue between China and Taiwan?

well for the govts it is.. though it can never be a bilateral issue realistically US has a habit of butting in...

For Vinay to show emotional outburst at an issue COMPLETELY UNRELATED to him, seems disgenous at best.


Offtopic: Nice try with the vocab but u got the spelling horribly wrong IMO.. THOUGH I still consider my English skills superior LOL


well that was his personal choice..I cant take responsibilty for him.. He is from a free country like urs.. I am supporting him only to the comment you chinese.. your dictator
simply because from what I infer this was in ref to commies...
and if u would have read my previous posts if he says he is antiChinese then I will disagree with him yet I will still think -vely about Chinese Commies..

If you truely believe really believe Taiwan is an issue, why don't you recognize Kashmir as independent country first??? All of your actions just seems like seditionary speech.

Taiwan is a non issue for me and my country and my countrymen ... do whatever u want .. though again nice try with the vocab mate.. frankly I dnt give a rats *** about "Kashmir Valley" .. you want it take it.. It is a cancer man.. rest of the states.. be prepared to face an army of 1 billion..Cheers..

He has historically shows lack of respect to Chinese forum posters here.

I dont follow/troll him so wouldnt know... but from what I infer as from our discussions.. he rather see all Communists dead.. (BTW if you are not aware Communist Party of India represents 10% of the seats in the Indian Parliament and is a major pain in the backside of Indians and they are the ones effing the nuke deal)

and if he has been good for him so has rextasis been because of 1 idiot Chinese I wouldnt change my opinion on Chinese esp women they are friggin Hot...

And his previous infractions and several (5 plus!??) bans should show you how shockingly ignorant he is.

Well I have had 3. all for slandering.. LOL...incl 1 for calling a person dumb..

If it is Chinese issue, he is too happy to make slight remarks or making a topic here. But if one is to point out that India is the one commiting even bigger crime, he would not hesitate to abuse me or anyone who points it out, labelling us "Commies". It all comes down to his (and your) hypocritical racist view.

Well he is patriotic and sensitive when it comes to his people like the way you are behaving + if you are a radical commie hater.. then you are a mirror image of Vinay for Taiwan... that is all I can say.. I could be wrong too..

PS, Hah, I have many indian friend too, LOL.

I dont think there are many Indians iN taipei... and u r probs lying.. :tired1_24:

But having Chinese friend doesn't mean you are not a racist.
okay.. then what the eff does it mean?? I am racist.. I have many Pakistani friends.. Muslim friends.. oh that means I am a Muslim hater.. LOL.. cut the crap mate.. :roflmao3:


Your shocking lack of understanding of China issue, language, and culture and the Chinese sensitivity shows you are probably just lying.

You being shocked because of the above is even more shocking!!!! go to america u shall be so shocked u ll forget to walk... :roflmao3: :roflmao3: :roflmao3:


Meh, obviously, to a racist like you to blanketly slander every chinese and not see it any wrong.

I categorically deny slandering any Chinese and if Vinay says that he was indeeed slandering all chinese then I shall distance from his stance yet still say that I think all the CHINESE COMMIES ARE BLOODY IGNORANT..

Even though two of us (Me, and Sinosphere) found it offensive and pointing it out to you.

unfortunately,I have no faith in Sinospheres English language skills.. sorry.. though she seems to be a very nice person... and after my explanation the fact that you also didnt understand lowers your rep in my eyes cheers,,
READ AGAIN>> from what I infer he is anti Chinese Commies if he is anti Chinese then I disagree avec him capisce???

I would have hold you in higher esteem if you just admit the guilt and apologise on his behalf,

I'd rather die than apologise for something that I didnt do.. Sikh Pride mate... you wouldnt understand...

but ofcourse, that is not going to happen. An Indian apologise to a Chinese?! LOL! :roflmao3::roflmao3:

guess sir you are being racist now... just what the hell do you mean by this?? are we arrogant!!! you have insulted all Indians and people of Indian origin here.. be careful with ur words... I shall let this transgression pass. u hear me?? I would hold u in higher esteem if u apologise and take back ur words...

Even after I explained to you, that his remark is NOT targeted, and is obviously targeted at ALL of Chinese?

Nope it is not.. before jumping to conclusiosn.. hang on will yaa... hear the other guy out.. then put ur money where ur mouth is..


Even after many Chinese here found it offensive??

couldnt care less what your Chinese friend found it out to be.. go ask a mod what the hell did it meant then I shall debate it with the mods.. and if it is antichinois I will distance myself from it though i will still say nasty things about ur Commies.. :biggrin1: :biggrin1: :biggrin1:

Again, for a racist you would not see it wrong

please mr, overseer stop abusing and insulting me.. Please stop this right away..

stop bashing India what have we done.. we are so scared... please stop it... :roflmao3: :roflmao3: :roflmao3:

Now, now, so you finally admit it. Even though I have pointed out to you that you don't seem to have any problem whatsoever with Cuban, Vietnamese, North Korean, etc. You single out Chinese Communist because your racist hatre. It is just abundently clear to everyone.

yes I hate Chinese commies more than anyother.. though I dont hate the Chinese people unless they are not commies.. simply because Chinese commies have the real power to eff .. and the Indian commies look for directions from their masters in beijing.. Cheers..

Not bad, and I suppose you major in English? Got a PHD to show for it? Even though reading through your posts I found it hard to believe.

I knew you would say that.. Fortunately none of my courses were on English but were in English... :roflmao3: :roflmao3:


Where? I didn't see any. LOL. :roflmao3: Its not like empty "praising" is going to make it alright.

You and Vinay's INTENTION in trolling in this forum itself speaks louder than your suppose action.

now this is a serious allegation mate.. I wouldnt accuse someone without proof..

stop insulting, calling names and being a racist.. please stop it...
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Again, I found it shocking you went to the aforemention universities, while you could read Vinay's message as no racist.

I found ur posts very racist and antagonistic towards me, my people and my country.. stop 'em or...

Continuing posting them.. couldnt be bothered.. LOL :roflmao3: :roflmao3:


"You Chinese" not "You communist Chinese", "listen to YOUR dictator".It is abundently clear it is a blanket term. The fact is only minority of Chinese in China are actually "communist". Research a bit and you will find less than 5% of Chinese population are actually holder of Communist membership. So what Vinay is saying is exactly what he meant, a blanket term. It shows his ignorant racist view.

Kid.. read my reply to QQ...http://irandefence.net/showpost.php?p=262592&postcount=31
shall I take another bow???


LOL

Again, let me repeat, there are 1.3 billion people in China, Vinay and you are holding the 5% as 100%.

well there may be 1.5bn+ when you add people of Chinese origin... I am calling all the chinese commies bloody arrogant and as per my guesstimate they may not number more than 2 million...

Vinay made it VERY CLEAR he didn't explain any of those in his short message.

I think the forum rule should read all posts should be in "simple" english so that people who have trouble understanding even slightly complex statements don't end up reading too much between the lines..

though if vinay effs up I am gonna be in deep ****.. LOL :roflmao3: :roflmao3: :roflmao3: :roflmao3:

another case of foot in mouth ahhahahaha...

There is no need for you to make it up to defend him, it only makes you look like you are subscribing to his racist ideology hell bent on disparaging Chinese people.

This reminds of my discussion with Sinosphere.. I dont know why I take pleasure in such sadisitc futile pursuits...

once and for all from what I interpret and from my previous knowledge of Vinays psyche, he meant to say eff off to all the Chinese communists...

Wait for him to post then you can pester him...



Does that mean your singular observation, from a brief moment in ONE (okay, let's say two) university means it happens everywhere?

okay 4 years means brief moments.. reality check nope it doesnt mean that..

Oh I get it, suddenly, you have become the all knowing all power ominpotent god itself.:roflmao3: :roflmao3:

Now u r comparing me to Allah...
LOL LOL LOL.. may Allah have mercy on thee..


I will say that I have many mainlander Chinese friends, as much as I have my own Taiwanese friends. The relationship is amicable. To blanketly that all Chinese and Taiwanese doesn't get along, again, shows your ignorant view.

Well I rather trust my own eyes, I speak the truth as God as my witness..why should I trust you a fellah who abuses me and is racist towards Indians...

Erm hem. I thought you would know.

no i dont, care telling me who it is??
It is in sanskrit a language which i dont understand and by a Hindu/Buddhist but I am a Sikh so I wouldnt really be too familiar...


That quote, now, that's an interesting quote. Why is it that you like to chose such quote?? Does the word "conquer" and "dominate" shows your true intention for China?? Ask yourself why you are attracted to such quote??

hahahaha man you sure are funny..this is a quote I lifted from the first result on " chinese quotes on India" search string.. LOL..
Man u would make a good conspiracy theorist.. LOL

http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&hl=en-GB&ie=UTF-8&rls=GFRG,GFRG:2007-12,GFRG:en-GB&q=chinese+quotes+on+India

:roflmao3: :roflmao3: :roflmao3:

You do realize Hu Shih's original intention is to be conciliatory. For you to quote it shows how disgenous and your true intentions are. But it is not hard to understand since the language particularly stroke your racist/racial superiority ego.

hahahaha... stroke my ego.. hahahhaha... read above.. :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :roflmao3: :roflmao3:

To me, I like to believe that China and India could cooperate peacefully on a more closer level, as "Chindia".

search for site:dbresearch.com filetype:pdf china india compete.. It makes sense for us to compete "in a friendly manner" in some industries as this will give both the countries impetus to perform better though in some fields we should def co-operate...

But so far, I have only see you, and Vinay, asserting your arrogant militant racist belief on various forums.

now u r calling us Militants.. LOL.. carry on slandering kiddo...

The wording and the choosing of such quote seems to me as a confirmation of such naked ambition.:roflmao3: :roflmao3:

Naked ambitions hahahahahh hahaha :roflmao3: :roflmao3: :roflmao3: :roflmao3:

Naked ambition hahahaha.. funniest thing I have heard in a long long time.. . LOL


And I don't believe that's going to make any of our countries to come any closer, particularly for you to profess such shallow racist views.

let the govts and the millions others decide.. Though the Guangdong fair was excellent.. My dad nd uncles just came back from it yesterday night...

Have u ever been to Tsingtao?? the brewery?? one of my closest friend is from there...cheers...






kid stop posting BS.. no one is apologising for calling communist bloody arrogant.. and esp after the inflammatory post u wrote above.. because of the forum rules I cant creatively express my love for the commies. if u know what I mean.. anyways.. if you cant understand what Vinay go complain to the mods and if Vinay posts otherwise I COULDNT CARE LESS, TO ME Chinese commies are bloody arrogant..for the reasons extolled above..
anyways From what I infer if he is anti-Communists I subscribe to his view but if he explicity calls himself Anti-Chinese people.. I will distance myself from this views of his....

anyways here are some of ur derogatory comments



Ofcourse, that's what the famous indian democracy teaches you.

Side stepping the question that he is an arrogant racist, while living in the "so called largest democracy", who "doesn't care what other thinks". I guess democrasy works in a mysterious way in India.

So you are the English language expert now? WOW!! Even more proclaimation from aryan!!!

Wow, not only are you a "morally superior" pro-slave ownership (slave master), you are an english language expert now too!

him shows your exact racist view as him. I guess disparaging Chinese at any chance you get is what you feel your god given right correct?


You defending him only shows you are in the same racist boat as him


I wish all racists %££$% burn in helll...

Clean up ur act before asking others too... :xmas_emot3:

[aryan]

You think they would prefer to live under a communist dictatorship? Because, let's be honest, that's what China's government is.
Unfortunatley, the US would have to fight. Losing Taiwan would be the first step to the US getting kicked out of the Pacific. That would pretty much spell the end for Japan and Korea.

I completely agree..

I think US has absolutely no interest in Taiwan other than its own interest. It couldn't careless about its own people,
Absolutely
why would it care about Taiwan?

To keep China in check THEY have a presence in South China Sea.. and fight Communist after all this was what the cold war was all about duh..

As for living under communist dictatorship, who says that??

yep who says that .. LOL..

The current communist party has repeat that it will tolerate Taiwan as apart as long as it will unify eventually, at the time that suits Taiwan.

And the world is gonna believe that...


The current status is to keep the status quo, which is exactly what majority (80%) of Taiwanese wants. We ain't idiots, we aren't going to just give up our freedom. China also does not want to attack Taiwan, unless the status quo is disturbed. So when China become democratic, Taiwan also wants to be part of it.

a very wise thing to do

The question is, why is India

LOL.. India doesnt giv a f about Taiwan.. though they give a major f about what China is doing in its sphere of influence.. other than that as for if tomorrow China invades Taiwan nothing will happen in India.. if Taiwan gives the middle finger to China guess what is gonna happen in India nada nothing...
I am surprised that you have actually mentioned India.. I hope you are not a vindictive man...

and America so keen to keep both countries apart?

a) US is opposed to communism
b) Maintain sphere of influence in the South China Sea
c) Show of strength.. China cannot invade a territory it calls its own , guess why?? US is there...

apart from these 3.. if you have any most welcome 2 add to these 3

Why not break up East Germany and West Germany again? or categorically stop any peace negociation with North and South Korea?

because of communism has been routed in Germany...

Peace negotiation in Korea are an eyewash till the N.Korean dictator and his brand of communism is alive nothing concrete and peaceful is gonna happen...

Who knows when, if ever, that will be. China is a very long way from being Democratic as it stand today.

absolutely

[Overseer]

well yes unfortunately some people will never be proficient as others in a language


:roflmao3::roflmao3:

Wow, more racist ignorance shown in broad daylight.
I don't believe you speak particularly good english yourself, and I found it particularly arrogant of you to judge others when yourself is pretty lacking in the English skill.

[Overseer]

lets cut 2 d chase..



!!the bone of contention!!


at this particular refers to all the chinese.. irresp of whether dead, alive, man, woman etc..

Now mr. QQ... here u r avoiding something innit?



Know which good Chinese will go and blow peoples home?? irresp whether is lawful or against the law

Let me list the options(very subjective but u shall soon realize why)

a) terrorists
b) armymen
c) policemen
d) govt officials
e) crazy people



thank you..
to your here implies all the Chinese who are under the orders of dictators, presidents and their comrades..

aka the Chinese



well okay lets use our brains and throw the laws of language outside..

you listen to your family..

here family means a family.. then what are you part of a family right???

so you chinese ... your dictator

here dictator means then what are you chinese??? those who are part of the govt...

I shall now take a mock internet bow..


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thank you thank you...

if this doesnot convince you I dont know what will!!



read above and if you have an iota of intelligence.. you will acknowledge that I am correct...


:roflmao3::roflmao3:
Forget it, QQ, Sinosphere, that's three of us who thinks you (aryan) is a racist. To a ignorant racist like you, ofcourse, you do not see it that way.

:roflmao3::roflmao3:

Ofcourse, for someone who is as ignorant as you, who so called have a "university education", doesn't seem to understand a single word QQ is saying. China, as you love to called "under a dictatorship regime", is after all, RUN BY A DICTATOR WITH ARMY. The government, is NOT the representation of the people, contrary to the democratic principles.

So, for you to show your true color and now outright point out your igorant believe and blanketly equate CHINESE PEOPLE as Chinese government, shows exactly how much of an igorant racist you are.

Let me show you evidence of your own jumbled wording (for someone who "goes to British universities" and yet speaks with such confused and jumbled line of thoughts, I found it pretty hard to believe, but again, you are someone who loves to "proclaim" a lot of things.. LOL!!)


here family means a family.. then what are you part of a family right???
so you chinese ... your dictator
here dictator means then what are you chinese??? those who are part of the govt...



Again, perhaps your education is lacking quite a bit, let me repeat again, is China a democracy? Is the government a representation of the people??
Now, unlike China, India is a "democracy", A DEMOCRACY THAT IS A REPRESENTATION OF THE PEOPLE, A DEMOCRACY THAT IS ACTIVELY TORTURING, COMMITING GENOCIDE ON KASHMIRI PEOPLE. What do you have to say to yourself? Wouldn't you agree all indians are responsible for the death and genocide of Kashmir.



Again, thank you for clarifying where you stand, it seems your hypocritical, and igorant racist view is shown to everyone once again.

[Vinay]

I got some clrifications to make.

1) By you chinese, i dint mean the 1.3 billion Chinese living in China.
I meant Dictator Hu and the likes and his slaves like Overseer.
For the other chinese here, please forgive me if i was not clear enuf.

2) Taiwan and Tibet and all countries tortured and harassed by the bullies in beijing, it is my right to write about them. How do you know i am not of Tibetian origin?

As for people who dont like it ( i know the slave of hu wont ), they just have to learn to accept diff views. I know they sing mao's revolutionary song in boot camps, but this aint their country. I live in a free country and i can write WHATEVER i want and i dont care whether the commie slaves like it.

3) Overseer, writing in bold is not gonna make you the moderator of this forum

[Vinay]

Like I have said to Vinay many times before...mind your own business, China and Taiwan is OUR OWN business

I so damn will not, as long as Taiwan, Tibet, "Uighurland", and the countries that the PLA has occupied under orders from the beijing barbarians are not free and Japan, India and the US and other neighbors dont get justice.

[Vinay]

Sino is a gurl??

did i forget to mention that Chinese women are hot? all of them.

[Vladimir80]

Sino is a gurl??

did i forget to mention that Chinese women are hot? all of them.

I have seen quite a few uglies in my travels, they are much more apt to chubby compared to Japanese.

[Overseer]

:biggrin1: :biggrin1:
well I do, you piece of $$%$ .. umm this is slandering right??
LOL


:roflmao3: :roflmao3: !!!

Let me quote your own word :

Please refrain from using insults I used the word dumb once for a Chinese member and that member complained to the mod and it resulted in an infraction I will not return the favour but ask you to exercise restraint and peaceful reconcillation..
cheers

Now, I vividly remember you proclaimed to be riding on a moral high horse yourself... Now now, wow, what changed? Suddenly it is personal insult now??

:roflmao3:

Perhaps, for someone like you who preach "sayer of truth, with superior moral compass", is nothing but a sham.





WTf.. what facts?
I dont think so....


Yada yada yada, looks like all your proclaimation of unversity studies are for nothing. If you can't read, it is okay, there is a thing call "books", in a place called "library" !!

:roflmao3:



I truly wish the best for the whole world..

Really? I don't see your language is going to bring any world peace.
:roflmao3::roflmao3:

What you have said here, only brings anger, racist hatred, and ignorant bigotry. Everyone one of your "proclamation" seems to be contrary to your action.



Well sir where teh eff have I said anything against peaceful resolution of Taiwan and China.. I cldnt be bothered about you two.. make peace or war.. ur business... I dont care.. I just stepped in to defend a person who was being wrongly accused of something which he didnt say.. and guess what he happened to be my countryman and a fellah commie hater(he is the more intolerant and radical one ;-) ).. and now you have adopted an anti-India/Indian stance..



Oh you didn't, because you really don't want a "peaceful ersolution of Taiwan and China". That is exactly what you don't want to happen. It is clear as day, and your next sentence says it... "I cldnt be bothered about you two.. make peace or war.. ur business... I dont care". Well, since you don't care, why do you come in here? You have NOTHING positive to contribute here besides perpetrating your racist belief and inflamming more Chinese people. If that's what you want to achieve, congradulation!! You did achieve your objective.



As for Vinay? he is not a communist hater, he is a CHINESE HATER. He would go so far as to start differentiating different races, now singling out "Han" or "Manchu" or "Uyghur". He would make blanket statement on particular "race" of chinese. What does this has to do with Chinese communist government?? Nothing, besides he just identifed himself as a racist. So for you to defend a known racist, just shows you identified yourself as part of the group.




dnt be so narrow minded mate...
Though I believe that communism all over the world needs to be finished... but it would take time and effort...




Another golden verbal gem from Aryan.
:roflmao3::roflmao3:
Please, just stop embrassing youself. The more you talk the more it reveals how much of a uneducated, ignorant racist you are. You (and Vinay) proclaimed to hate "communists", and particularly "Chinese communists". But you failed to realize that CHINA IS NOT a COMMUNIST COUNTRY FOR A LONG TIME. Ever since 1980 Deng Xiao-Ping open up China, China is essentially a capitalist country far more than most of the western countries. That's what made China having such vibrant economy.

So that brings to the question. If you (and Vinay) just hate "communist" as you said you are, and China is NOT a communist country, that leaves only one conclusion, YOU HATE CHINESE. Well, isn't that pretty clear?
You know, looking at your own nickname "Aryan", maybe starting a Neo-Nazi group in India isn't such a bad idea after all. You know you already got a loyal member, Vinay!

:roflmao3::roflmao3:




Offtopic: Nice try with the vocab but u got the spelling horribly wrong IMO.. THOUGH I still consider my English skills superior LOL

:roflmao3::roflmao3:
More arrogant proclaimation! :)
And thanks for pointing out the so called "mistake" but you don't seem to know the proper spelling either. LOL!! So where is your "superior" English??

I don't like to point out people's spelling mistakes and typos, and I see you commit a lot more grammatical jibberish in your comments, but I guess arrogance seems to be a virtue in your own eyes.

Seriously, do you think your sub-standard English is going to convince anyone your english is better than mine? Looking at your sentence structure, and word use, your level of English doesn't even pass high school English. Isn't it pretty "disingenuous" for you to point out others when yourself is main offender of said mistakes?



well that was his personal choice..I cant take responsibilty for him.. He is from a free country like urs.. I am supporting him only to the comment you chinese.. your dictator
simply because from what I infer this was in ref to commies...
and if u would have read my previous posts if he says he is antiChinese then I will disagree with him yet I will still think -vely about Chinese Commies..[/b]


Well, like I have said before, you defending him makes you in the same camp as him, at the SAME TIME, you have said the similar racist remarks as him.
China is no longer communist, that makes you and Vinay's comment invalid, and can only point to the same conclusion as before, you are a racist and hates Chinese only. It doesn't matter if China is democratic or communist.



Taiwan is a non issue for me and my country and my countrymen ... do whatever u want .. though again nice try with the vocab mate.. frankly I dnt give a rats *** about "Kashmir Valley" .. you want it take it.. It is a cancer man.. rest of the states.. be prepared to face an army of 1 billion..Cheers..


Oh? really, so I made another spelling mistake with my "vocab" again? Perhaps you could enlighten us as to which word I have made such mistake in this particularly sentence you quoted?

If you have trouble talking or understanding collegiate level of English, it shows your lack of education when you proclaimed to have unversity education in UK. Pretty dishonest of you don't you think?



I dont follow/troll him so wouldnt know... but from what I infer as from our discussions.. he rather see all Communists dead.. (BTW if you are not aware Communist Party of India represents 10% of the seats in the Indian Parliament and is a major pain in the backside of Indians and they are the ones effing the nuke deal)


:roflmao3:
I didn't follow him, he came to our forum to troll like you do here, it strikes me as peculiar that you and Vinay would have the time to come here to troll. Perhaps you have no life? This forum is about CHINA. I found it pretty funny to see you (and Vinay) to come here to point at Chinese's own problem, when your own country is in a much bigger mess.

:roflmao3:

As for Communist India, I am aware of their standing in the government and to their own constituents, and since they are freely elected to the government, I found it funny you be angry at them. Don't they represent 10% of the will of YOUR PEOPLE? Or are you disregarding these people's who they represents??

:roflmao3::roflmao3:


and if he has been good for him so has rextasis been because of 1 idiot Chinese I wouldnt change my opinion on Chinese esp women they are friggin Hot...

LOL, hey, I wouldn't change my opinion of Indians either, since my favourite food is curry and Tandoori chicken, and I am like Indian ladies too....



Well I have had 3. all for slandering.. LOL...incl 1 for calling a person dumb..

........




Well he is patriotic and sensitive when it comes to his people like the way you are behaving + if you are a radical commie hater.. then you are a mirror image of Vinay for Taiwan... that is all I can say.. I could be wrong too..


Again, let me repeat, China is NOT a communist country anymore, and for a long time too. It is only "communist in name" only. If you want to be specific in your critique of China, you should say China is still under a dictatorship regime.

As for Vinay, he is a racist, as much as you. I don't proactively go out of my way to goto Indian forums to troll and offend Indian sensitivity do I?? I have done that in the past, only after Vinay has repeatly troll in China's forum.

I don't mind if Vinay or you being patriotic, that's all fine by me, But I do have problem when you are patriotic at the expense of China or Chinese, by slandering us. I welcome you to be positively patriotic about your own country, but not at the expense of offensive remarks relating to China. India, is Indian's own problem, China, is Chinese's own problem. You don't need to come here to tell us about our problem. It is NOT your problem. And in threads that doesn't even involve China, or even if it does, I don't see you are qualify to comment on anything relate to China, since you have shown to have pretty superficial understanding of China at best.


I dont think there are many Indians iN taipei... and u r probs lying.. :tired1_24:



There aren't many indians in Taiwan, but then again, I am not living in Taipei right now am I? Is that the level of your intelligence?? You can't even imagine I live abroad with an advanced degree? Ofcourse not, only YOU would be able to do that.....
:roflmao3::roflmao3:




okay.. then what the eff does it mean?? I am racist.. I have many Pakistani friends.. Muslim friends.. oh that means I am a Muslim hater.. LOL.. cut the crap mate.. :roflmao3:

I highly doubt you have any friend at all. :roflmao3:
With your intolerant prejudice views and arrogant attitude, HAHAHA. Sure mate. Sure.
:roflmao3::roflmao3:




You being shocked because of the above is even more shocking!!!! go to america u shall be so shocked u ll forget to walk... :roflmao3: :roflmao3: :roflmao3:

Again, you seem to believe I am living in Taiwan and never been outside of Taiwan. :roflmao3::roflmao3:

I am acutely aware of racism in western countries, I have live in several of them for decades.

But it seems you believe that just because everyone is racist, it is okay for you to be a racist? That line of thought can only be attributed to a racist like you.


I categorically deny slandering any Chinese and if Vinay says that he was indeeed slandering all chinese then I shall distance from his stance yet still say that I think all the CHINESE COMMIES ARE BLOODY IGNORANT..


Chinese communist party, whether they do good or bad, is a problem for Chinese to deal with. You have your own Indian Communist party to deal with. For you to comment on another country's party system, is disingenuous.
To be honest, for much of he failings of Chinese Communist party, it still does a pretty good job in pulling 400 million people out of desperate poverty and into middle class, and advanced China tremendously for the past 2 decades. Now, I don't like comparison, but since you are here in Chinese forum to point your guilty finger at China, perhaps you should take a GOOD LOOK at your own government, who does a much worse job than Chinese communist party at managing your own country, who makes India lag behind China by a good 20 years atleast, who still perpentrating genocide on Kashmiri people.

So to called "CHINESE COMMIES ARE BLOODY IGNORANT", I think you need to look yourself in the mirror before you say that.

:roflmao3: (honestly, this one got me the most LOL!)




unfortunately,I have no faith in Sinospheres English language skills.. sorry.. though she seems to be a very nice person... and after my explanation the fact that you also didnt understand lowers your rep in my eyes cheers,,
READ AGAIN>> from what I infer he is anti Chinese Commies if he is anti Chinese then I disagree avec him capisce???


There is not misunderstanding, and there is no point in degrading sinosphere, or QQ or my english skill. Your own language skill is lacking and pretty clear to everyone and due to your own arrogance you don't seem to see it.

Just ilke your previous proclamation, you believe you are sitting pretty on a moral high horse above us. Surely, that is your whole argument right? That you are the expert, and we are not...

:roflmao3::roflmao3:

To be honest, after my many clear explainations (and other chinese posters), your lack of english understanding and sensitivity to racism issues, does not lower you in my eyes. Because it can't get any lower...LOL.






I'd rather die than apologise for something that I didnt do.. Sikh Pride mate... you wouldnt understand...



Right, in other word, pure arrogance speaking.
:roflmao3::roflmao3:



guess sir you are being racist now... just what the hell do you mean by this?? are we arrogant!!! you have insulted all Indians and people of Indian origin here.. be careful with ur words... I shall let this transgression pass. u hear me?? I would hold u in higher esteem if u apologise and take back ur words...

What did I say? Your shocking understanding of English continue to amaze me. And you are even confused by my meaning??
:roflmao3::roflmao3:

You, and Vinay, who makes racist remarks here, the one who commited the transgression, should be apologising. I am merely asking VINAY to apologise, (note the word "an Indian, not ALL indian") but instead, you ask the victim to apologise to the transgressor? LOL!!
Brilliant logic mate!

What next? Perhaps you should apologise to the British for enslaving you right?? HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!

:roflmao3::roflmao3:


Nope it is not.. before jumping to conclusiosn.. hang on will yaa... hear the other guy out.. then put ur money where ur mouth is..




Righttttt, so Vinay can retract what he previously said, and invent more excuses.



couldnt care less what your Chinese friend found it out to be.. go ask a mod what the hell did it meant then I shall debate it with the mods.. and if it is antichinois I will distance myself from it though i will still say nasty things about ur Commies.. :biggrin1: :biggrin1: :biggrin1:



Right...... with this kind of attitude, need I say more??
Your racist attitude is clear to everyone, you don't care and you don't respect any of us here.



please mr, overseer stop abusing and insulting me.. Please stop this right away..

stop bashing India what have we done.. we are so scared... please stop it... :roflmao3: :roflmao3: :roflmao3:



I am not abusing you, I am just calling out a racist when I see one. Perhaps you really need to open your own eyes and see why many of us here found you offensive.


Oh, so I am "bashing India" now? WOWWWW!!!
So it is okay for you to bash China and Chinese, but not okay for me to comment on your racist behaviour and point out your own even bigger failing??


What kind of hypocrite are you?



yes I hate Chinese commies more than anyother.. though I dont hate the Chinese people unless they are not commies.. simply because Chinese commies have the real power to eff .. and the Indian commies look for directions from their masters in beijing.. Cheers..


Righhhttt. Wow, I don't know what to say. Your lack of education clearly shows in this paragraph. let me ask you, do you have any evidence that Indian Communists are reporting to Chinese Communist party?!!

And "commies" is fairly fluid term, and it is fairly easy for you to label anyone "chinese communist". Vinay consistently do that in the past, anyone who disagree with his opinion, he would call me, or anyone "Chinese commies". LOL. Isn't it exactly the same disgusting behavior as the American now do with Islamic people? Those who doesn't agree with American brand of ideology would be label "terrorist". Since you said you live in UK, I thought you would understand this kind of racist behavior. (and probably encounter some in the past)



I knew you would say that.. Fortunately none of my courses were on English but were in English... :roflmao3: :roflmao3:


So, that makes you expert in English linguistics???
:roflmao3::roflmao3:

Honestly, you have no authority to tell sinosphere, QQ, or me the intepretation of what Vinay said. For all you know, QQ or Sinosphere could also have gotten advanced degree in UK. Who knows. I have advanced degree in Australia. So I don't particularly believe your pathetic level of English is going to convince me you are master of English language.



now this is a serious allegation mate.. I wouldnt accuse someone without proof..

stop insulting, calling names and being a racist.. please stop it...
:(



Without proof? Vinay and you just gave us the proof, it is evident you are trolling in this forum looking for ways to degrade us Chinese anyway you can.
Perhaps you need to re-read my posts and does a little reflection. What is it to you to come to Chinese part of forum to troll??


I found ur posts very racist and antagonistic towards me, my people and my country.. stop 'em or...

Continuing posting them.. couldnt be bothered.. LOL :roflmao3: :roflmao3:





Oh really? Pot calling kettle black!!! WOW, finally you get my lesson!!! LOL!!
I wasn't the one doing it first am I? You are, and Vinay is. You dont' seem to see the error of India's way, but has to consistently come here to troll in this forum, so I merely return the favour to point out the error of YOUR WAY.

So, you don't seem to get it do you?? If you found it offensive I show you how backward, how barbaric India is (and that's a fact), you get offended, why do you want to do the same to Chinese people in various threads and HERE in the FIRST PLACE??



Kid.. read my reply to QQ...http://irandefence.net/showpost.php?p=262592&postcount=31
shall I take another bow???
LOL


Taking another bow? In asian culture, to bow means to apologize.
I think at this stage, you need to kill yourself. As you said before, you would rather die than apologize. Well, here is your chance to proof your point! ;)

:roflmao3::roflmao3:



well there may be 1.5bn+ when you add people of Chinese origin... I am calling all the chinese commies bloody arrogant and as per my guesstimate they may not number more than 2 million...



Right, you forgot your own principal, that you hate "ALL COMMIES". So whatever happen to Vietnamese Commies, Russian Commies, North Korean, Cubans commies..etc etc...

Ohhhhhh I forgot, you rather single out "CHINESE COMMIES" because it is CHINESE !!!!

:roflmao3::roflmao3:

Well, what can I say, a racist like you would just use "commies" as excuse.




I think the forum rule should read all posts should be in "simple" english so that people who have trouble understanding even slightly complex statements don't end up reading too much between the lines..


Vinay isn't making any complex English sentence or prose here, :roflmao3::roflmao3:

His message is as simple and as clear as it can get. It is racist.



though if vinay effs up I am gonna be in deep ****.. LOL :roflmao3: :roflmao3: :roflmao3: :roflmao3:

another case of foot in mouth ahhahahaha...



I don't think you need to worry about Vinay, you only need to check your own attitude.



okay 4 years means brief moments.. reality check nope it doesnt mean that..



LOL, perception of time varies for everyone, even same person. In history of human race, 4 years is nothing.


Now u r comparing me to Allah...
LOL LOL LOL.. may Allah have mercy on thee..

Well, since you seem to arrogantly asserting that your singular observation is what's happening everywhere. I made the comment to show how ridiculous you are, but obviously it escapes your "superior intelligence".
:roflmao3::roflmao3:


Well I rather trust my own eyes, I speak the truth as God as my witness..why should I trust you a fellah who abuses me and is racist towards Indians...


HAHA, so, your local observation is the only one you trust? Why not discard books, since you never experienced or to proof any of the fact you learn in books?!?


As for racist, you are calling yourself right? I am not the one to coming here first to be racist to everyone here, YOU ARE.


hahahaha man you sure are funny..this is a quote I lifted from the first result on " chinese quotes on India" search string.. LOL..
Man u would make a good conspiracy theorist.. LOL

hahahaha... stroke my ego.. hahahhaha... read above.. :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :roflmao3: :roflmao3:
[/QUOTE]


Well, the fact that you chose such quote, means you at some level agree to it. That quote fits perfectly of your racist ideology, that the word "conquer" and "dominate" seems to stroke your ego tremendously.



now u r calling us Militants.. LOL.. carry on slandering kiddo...


Is it not true that you chose such quote? That the quote contain words that are "dominate", "Conquer", and for you to chose such quote shows exactly your racist ideology?? Doesn't the word "conquer" and dominate" the words of militants??


Naked ambitions hahahahahh hahaha :roflmao3: :roflmao3: :roflmao3: :roflmao3:

Naked ambition hahahaha.. funniest thing I have heard in a long long time.. . LOL


I didn't choose the quote, you did. The fact of matter is, you chose to fit your belief system.


kid stop posting BS.. no one is apologising for calling communist bloody arrogant.. and esp after the inflammatory post u wrote above.. because of the forum rules I cant creatively express my love for the commies. if u know what I mean.. anyways.. if you cant understand what Vinay go complain to the mods and if Vinay posts otherwise I COULDNT CARE LESS, TO ME Chinese commies are bloody arrogant..for the reasons extolled above..
anyways From what I infer if he is anti-Communists I subscribe to his view but if he explicity calls himself Anti-Chinese people.. I will distance myself from this views of his....



LOL, obviously you don't see the error of your own way.
:roflmao3::roflmao3:

And I am glad you found my posts inflammatory, because that is exactly you and Vinay do here, PROACTIVELY. IN CHINA FORUM.
Should I do the same as you did here, and start posting those in INDIA part of the forum???



anyways here are some of ur derogatory comments



Oh? so these are derogotory? How so?? Aren't you making the same kind of remark yourself?? And isn't it you who started to troll here FIRST?



I wish all racists %££$% burn in helll...


Haha, My thought exactly, and I guess you should burn in hell for a long time.



Clean up ur act before asking others too... :xmas_emot3:

Why should I? You are the one who commiting the crime IN HERE, FIRST!!

[Overseer]

I got some clrifications to make.

1) By you chinese, i dint mean the 1.3 billion Chinese living in China.
I meant Dictator Hu and the likes and his slaves like Overseer.
For the other chinese here, please forgive me if i was not clear enuf.



Bang! see? Right here, just when I thought Vinay wouldn't show up, and he did!! LOL!!
:roflmao3::roflmao3:

Like I say, "commie" is a fluid slandering term, and even though I never live in China, and I am from Taiwan. He would find an excuse to label me one. Isn't it pretty racist?? I suppose if I was to use Vinay's logic, I could labelling Vinay and Aryan as "terrorist", simply because you don't agree with me .....
:roflmao3::roflmao3:



2) Taiwan and Tibet and all countries tortured and harassed by the bullies in beijing, it is my right to write about them. How do you know i am not of Tibetian origin?

Hahaha, now that's a new one Vinay. :roflmao3::roflmao3:
Oh really, you are a Tibetan now?! I thought you are a Hindu.
:roflmao3::roflmao3:

Now, Taiwan being tortured by China, I should know. Nope, I don't see I being torture in anyway or form. So I guess you know more about this than me.
:roflmao3::roflmao3:

If Taiwan is to be harrassed by Beijing bully, how is it your business??
:roflmao3:


I think you should write more about your own country, that Indian government to consistently "bullying" its neighbours, and commiting genocide on Kashmir. I guess hypocrisy runs in your blood right Vinay?



As for people who dont like it ( i know the slave of hu wont ), they just have to learn to accept diff views. I know they sing mao's revolutionary song in boot camps, but this aint their country. I live in a free country and i can write WHATEVER i want and i dont care whether the commie slaves like it.


HAHA, glad you ascribe to such brand of "freedom". Hey I don't blame India for producing such dim-witted person, with little to no understanding of current China.

:roflmao3::roflmao3:

Mao's revoluntionary song?
:roflmao3::roflmao3:

Dude, goto China. Look.
China is NOT communist for a long time. It is far more capitalist than most western countries.
So your "beef" with Chinese Communist party, you can only attribute to them being "fake commies" and being "dictators". Since they are dictators, why would it matter what I think, since they going to do it their way anyway?? And labelling me as "commies" isn't going to make "Hu" less powerful. LOL!!
Remember? They aren't a democracy. And strange that you have such hatre for Communist, since China is no longer communist, and you don't seem to hate North Korean, you don't have problem with Cuban, or the Vietnamese communists. That means, you only hate "Chinese Communist" because simply, it is "Chinese". Well what can I say, Vinay, please examine your own racist belief. Think.







3) Overseer, writing in bold is not gonna make you the moderator of this forum


I just highlight these sentences, just so to make it easier for you to understand, since you seem to have particularly deficiency in understanding English.

[Overseer]

I so damn will not, as long as Taiwan, Tibet, "Uighurland", and the countries that the PLA has occupied under orders from the beijing barbarians are not free and Japan, India and the US and other neighbors dont get justice.

HAAHAHA! HAHAHAHA, HAHAHAHA!!!
:roflmao3::roflmao3:

Riiiiiiight !!!!

So, how about the Kashmiri people?? Do they get justice?


Ofcourse, how convenient for you to forget to mention them in the same sentence. I guess in your eyes, Kashmiris are not people.

[aryan]

:roflmao3::roflmao3:

Wow, more racist ignorance shown in broad daylight.

okay calling that somepeople will never master a foreign language is being racist ohkay..
I see how you work...
thanks


I don't believe you speak particularly good english yourself, and I found it particularly arrogant of you to judge others when yourself is pretty lacking in the English skill.

Buddy that is ur opinion.. u r entitled to it..

[aryan]

:roflmao3::roflmao3:

carry on laughing mate..

Forget it, QQ, Sinosphere, that's three of us who thinks you (aryan) is a racist. To a ignorant racist like you, ofcourse, you do not see it that way.

Who knows u maybe the same person with 3 different Ids...
By ur thinking I will not become one...


:roflmao3::roflmao3:


carry on laughing mate..

Ofcourse, for someone who is as ignorant as you, who so called have a "university education", doesn't seem to understand a single word QQ is saying.

Okay I am ignorant happy??


China, as you love to called "under a dictatorship regime", is after all, RUN BY A DICTATOR WITH ARMY. The government, is NOT the representation of the people, contrary to the democratic principles.


I hate commied may they all be executed in the next 25.6 seconds...

So, for you to show your true color and now outright point out your igorant believe and blanketly equate CHINESE PEOPLE as Chinese government, shows exactly how much of an igorant racist you are.


Now u r really testing my patience... but let me again put it..
VINAY HAS CLARIFIED HE WAS NAMECALLING THE COMMIES NOT THE CHINESE.. why dont you get it..
Okay urs QQ's and Sinosphere's english is better than Indians,,. he was MISQUOTED and he has clarified...
happy??

Let me show you evidence of your own jumbled wording (for someone who "goes to British universities" and yet speaks with such confused and jumbled line of thoughts, I found it pretty hard to believe, but again, you are someone who loves to "proclaim" a lot of things.. LOL!!)

Sorry sir next time I shall try to endeavour to write properly with correct grammar and spell check so that you are not offended.. NOT..

Again, perhaps your education is lacking quite a bit, let me repeat again, is China a democracy? Is the government a representation of the people??

China is a communist regime... and no the govt is not elected by means of an adult franchise to call it a democracy means u r a pathetic individual.

Now, unlike China, India is a "democracy", A DEMOCRACY THAT IS A REPRESENTATION OF THE PEOPLE, A DEMOCRACY THAT IS ACTIVELY TORTURING, COMMITING GENOCIDE ON KASHMIRI PEOPLE. What do you have to say to yourself?

I disagree it is not.. but ur opinion again..


Wouldn't you agree all indians are responsible for the death and genocide of Kashmir.

Nope... in the same way arent all Chinese responsible for the death and genocide of Tibetans and Uighurs???


Again, thank you for clarifying where you stand, it seems your hypocritical, and igorant racist view is shown to everyone once again.

Nope only u to you, Sino and QQ.. cheers..

[aryan]

I got some clrifications to make.

dude forget it.. this OVerseer fellah is just in it for flaming...

1) By you chinese, i dint mean the 1.3 billion Chinese living in China.
I meant Dictator Hu and the likes and his slaves like Overseer.
For the other chinese here, please forgive me if i was not clear enuf.


What the hell was saying Overseer?? I am sorry we Indians have poor English skills..unlike ... :laugh4:

2) Taiwan and Tibet and all countries tortured and harassed by the bullies in beijing, it is my right to write about them. How do you know i am not of Tibetian origin?

Well said..

As for people who dont like it ( i know the slave of hu wont ), they just have to learn to accept diff views. I know they sing mao's revolutionary song in boot camps, but this aint their country. I live in a free country and i can write WHATEVER i want and i dont care whether the commie slaves like it.

Mera Bharat Mahaan..

3) Overseer, writing in bold is not gonna make you the moderator of this forum

Oh really I though he is a ........ :xmas_emot3:

[aryan]

I have seen quite a few uglies in my travels, they are much more apt to chubby compared to Japanese.


nah mate I love 'em in all shapes and sizes... though the Chinese guys think Japanese are cuter..

[aryan]

I so damn will not, as long as Taiwan, Tibet, "Uighurland", and the countries that the PLA has occupied under orders from the beijing barbarians are not free and Japan, India and the US and other neighbors dont get justice.

Well said Vinay again...

[Vladimir80]

nah mate I love 'em in all shapes and sizes... though the Chinese guys think Japanese are cuter..

Don't get me wrong, I like curves but not rolls. I have seen plenty of hot Chinese. They just eat more than Japanese do ... on the averages.

[Vinay]

What you have said here, only brings anger, racist hatred, and ignorant bigotry. Everyone one of your "proclamation" seems to be contrary to your action

So let me get this stait.

When the beijing crooks protest an award to the DL, you are being spiritual about it??? right?????

I could labelling Vinay and Aryan as "terrorist", simply because you don't agree with me .....


Call us that, and make sure the two members of your audience are listening

Oh really, you are a Tibetan now?! I thought you are a Hindu

No, i am not a hindu, tibetian, muslim, christian, sikh or such.

I am a human.

So I guess you know more about this than me.


Yes, what can i do if you are brainwashed. Even my sis knows better than you.

It is far more capitalist than most western countries.

Have you been taking some dirty pills?

So, how about the Kashmiri people?? Do they get justice?

No, they should though. They should be allowed to do what they like.

VINAY HAS CLARIFIED HE WAS NAMECALLING THE COMMIES NOT THE CHINESE..

Absolutely true. I will say it twice, all sensible chinese please excuse the mad ,ravaging, rabid,frothing countryman called Overseer.

Another one, Overseer, another thread. Put it up on your mantleplace.

[Sinosphere]

it is not he has called ur govt and its servants/comrades etc..arrogant

If he's not, then please tell me who is calling the government arrogant.

[Vinay]

If he's not, then please tell me who is calling the government arrogant.


Please friend, relax, dont take this this in a wrong way.

Your govt unfortunately is arrogant and you cant deny it.

By govt, i dont mean people, mr overseer- claim-to-be-a taiwanese. I hope, you have learnt that much english in your red neck town.

[Amir]

Dont care what you think. you chinese are bloody arrogant

You cannot make such a comments in this forum