Whats the story on F-5 (Azaraksh), does Iran build it or just overhaul it?

[siamak]

I was reading Tom Cooper's story on IRIAF and he never mentioned anything about Iran 100% manufacturing F-5 Freedom Fighter. I've never seen a reputable source confirm that Iran is actually 100% build F-5 domestically.
Can anyone explain this?

[Soroush]

we have alot of threads about this. did you bother to use the search function at all:confused: .

[siamak]

we have alot of threads about this. did you bother to use the search function at all:confused: .

there were only 9 threads in airforce section and non of them explained this :confused:

[Soroush]

here you go:

http://www.irandefence.net/showthread.php?t=1947&page=3

[siamak]

here you go:

http://www.irandefence.net/showthread.php?t=1947&page=3

Yes, I know that many are saying that Iran is manufacturing F-5 I just want to see pictures and sources. Whats the evidence here, Has number of Iran's F-5s increased noticably?

[Soroush]

Yes, I know that many are saying that Iran is manufacturing F-5 I just want to see pictures and sources. Whats the evidence here, Has number of Iran's F-5s increased noticably?

There is not many pictures of it as I know and that's when it was making it's first flight while khameini made an appearance there. 30-60 are in service and we have stopped making them.

[Alex]

why did they stop making them and what will they make instead?

[Soroush]

why did they stop making them and what will they make instead?

there is no need, the numbers we have are quite good enough to serve for a long time to come. We have too many other things to focus on like F-14, Shafaq, BM's, and the nuclear issue which is the most important.

[siamak]

how do you know these Flanker, is it just your speculation or do you have a source?

[Soroush]

how do you know these Flanker, is it just your speculation or do you have a source?

I know alot of people that know these information and watch IRIB they tell you everything you need to know. Siamak, the F-5 with two fins your talking about is not called Azarkash. it was named Saeqeh-80, it is much different.

[siamak]

I know alot of people that know these information and watch IRIB they tell you everything you need to know. Siamak, the F-5 with two fins your talking about is not called Azarkash. it was named Saeqeh-80, it is much different.

Oh so Iran still manufactures Saeqeh-80? howmany do we have?
Btw I think you should take a look at Articles regarding Iran's military on Wikipedia, and correct the mistakes. The picture used for Azarakhsh article on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azarakhsh) is atually Saeqeh-80, and there is no article on Saeqeh-80 itself.

[Soroush]

Oh so Iran still manufactures Saeqeh-80? howmany do we have?
Btw I think you should take a look at Articles regarding Iran's military on Wikipedia, and correct the mistakes. The picture used for Azarakhsh article on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azarakhsh) is atually Saeqeh-80, and there is no article on Saeqeh-80 itself.

I think you got it all wrong, wikipedia notes it as Azarkash II but the orignal Azarkash was just an reverse engineered F-5 that later got converted into F-5B.

Just see for your self.


Saeqeh-80 / Owj
There are reports of the development of an indigenous fighter, variously called the Owj (Zenith) or Saeqeh-80.

There were reports in the late 1990s of the development of an indigenous fighter design called the Owj (Zenith), although this may reflect a nomenclature confusion with the IRIAF Owj Industrial Complex. Nothing has been heard in recent years of a project with this name.

In December 1998 Chancellor of Martyr Sattari University, Brigadier General Ali-Akbar Showqi told the President Mohammad Khatami that the fighter 'Sa'eqeh' (Lightning or Thunderbolt), then in the design phase, would do its experimental flight in the year 2001. In July 2004 Iran showed a video and pictures of the latest prototype fighter jet [after Azarakhsh and Shafagh], called Sa´eqeh, or Sa'eqeh-80.

It looks like an F-5 with canted vertical stabilizers.

Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei called for the armed forces to be boosted, as the Islamic republic unveiled the locally developed fighter jet. During his tour of the western city of Hamedan, Khamenei was shown the Sa'eqeh. The jet had been shown on state television making a test flight. No information about its operational capacity, technical specifications or production were given. In his address to a group of pilots and air force commanders, at the third air force base in Hamedan, Ayatollah Khamenei hailed the key role of the air force. The Supreme Leader said successful manufacture of Sa'eqeh (thunder) jet fighter by the Islamic republic army's air force and elevation of their combat readiness are the results of their faith, hard endeavors and strong will. The Sa'eqeh jet fighter made a successful test flight in the presence of the Supreme Leader during the ceremony.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iran/saeqeh.htm




Just see for your self.

Saeq’e Fighter Jet to Join Iran’s Air Force


TEHRAN (MNA) – Iran’s first fighter jet, the Saeq’e (lightning), will soon join the air fleet of the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force, the Air Force commander said on Wednesday.

The fighter has been designed and constructed by specialists and experts from Iran’s Air Force, IRIAF Commander Brigadier General Seyyed Reza Pardis told the Mehr News Agency.

“This fighter has various capabilities and will be used to boost defensive power,” he said.

Iran has great potential in specialized fields and can develop any kind of conventional defensive technology that we want, Pardis added.

Pardis went on to say that the Iranian Air Force is one of the most powerful air forces in the region.

“The IRIAF was the foremost air force in the region during the time of the Sacred Defense (the 1980-1988 Iraq-Iran war). Today, too, we have one of the mightiest air forces in the Middle East region,” he noted.

He added that the weapons and equipment that the IRIAF has designed, produced, and upgraded are comparable to and in many cases even more advanced than those utilized by the air forces of other regional countries. Referring to the IRIAF’s operational readiness, General Pardis asserted, “It does not make any difference for the IRIAF from where or when the threat might originate, we are prepared for defense at all times. We have made the necessary preparations in this regard.” RA/HL/HG

http://www.tehrantimes.com/Description.asp?Da=4/15/2004&Cat=2&Num=022


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http://www.khamenei.ir/Data/Media/Photo/83/04/18A/B/034.jpg
http://www.khamenei.ir/Data/Media/Photo/83/04/18A/B/039.jpg

[azaraksh]

There is not many pictures of it as I know and that's when it was making it's first flight while khameini made an appearance there. 30-60 are in service and we have stopped making them.

If there are 30-60 (that is quite a deviation) Azaraksh in service, then why are there no pictures of one. There is only one Saeqeh, but there are not only pictures, but also video footage.

[Janbaz]

There is this picture of Azarakhsh in Global Security, but I think it is not a correct picture.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iran/azarakhsh.htm

[Soroush]

If there are 30-60 (that is quite a deviation) Azaraksh in service, then why are there no pictures of one. There is only one Saeqeh, but there are not only pictures, but also video footage.

Because Iran is very secretive about it's military, just look at the Mirages, Su-22's and Mig-25's that ended up in Iran but we still don't show any pictures of them. It's better to keep things under cover so no intelligence agency gets the information of anything...

[Night]

lol, all an intelligence agency needs to do is bribe an official with money/sex and they can get any info they want.

[Soroush]

lol, all an intelligence agency needs to do is bribe an official with money/sex and they can get any info they want.

yeah I'm sure the CIA/FBI can get into Iran's hidden military bases and get access to their scientists/enigeers who are being watched 24/7 and protected by men with MP-5's strapped around their waist.

[Night]

We did it with the Soviet Union! We can certainly do it again to Iran! :D

[Persian Gulf]

is this a saegheh?
film (http://rapidshare.de/files/28828657/Saeghe.wmv.html)

[Alex]

Because Iran is very secretive about it's military, just look at the Mirages, Su-22's and Mig-25's that ended up in Iran but we still don't show any pictures of them. It's better to keep things under cover so no intelligence agency gets the information of anything...

about those su and migs it seems like iraq wants them back and iran i willing to give. i read it on iran military forum

[Reticula]

I was reading Tom Cooper's story on IRIAF and he never mentioned anything about Iran 100% manufacturing F-5 Freedom Fighter. I've never seen a reputable source confirm that Iran is actually 100% build F-5 domestically.
Can anyone explain this?Azarakhsh has already been produced it's the Azarakhsh that is in question.