Uae Air Force

[UAE_CONDOR]

F-16 Block-60 Equipped with AESA Radar-The Best Jet fighter in all of the Middle East

http://www.defesanet.com.br/rv/le_bourget_05/imagens/F16E-F.jpg

http://www.acig.org/artman/uploads/uae_f16_23_37086b.jpg

http://www.flug-revue.rotor.com/FRTypen/FRfotmil/F-16UAE.jpg

Mirage-2000-9's

http://armoreddefense.com/v-web/gallery/albums/album38/Mirage_2000_UAE_0002.jpg

http://defence-data.com/paris99/mirage20009.jpg

mako

http://homepage.eircom.net/~steven/images/makouae.jpg


Hawk
http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/airshow05/alain/hawk100.jpg

http://homepage.eircom.net/~steven/images/hawkuae.jpg

http://armoreddefense.com/v-web/gallery/albums/album38/BAE_Hawk_UAE_0001.jpg

http://armoreddefense.com/v-web/gallery/albums/album38/MB_339A_UAE_0001.sized.jpg

AH-64 Apache

http://armoreddefense.com/v-web/gallery/albums/album38/AH_64_Apache_UAE_0001.jpg

http://homepage.eircom.net/~steven/images/uaeapche.jpg

SA342L Gazelle

http://homepage.eircom.net/~steven/images/uaegazellenew.jpg

AS532UC/SC Cougar
http://homepage.eircom.net/~steven/images/uae126.jpg

IAR/SA 330 Puma
http://homepage.eircom.net/~steven/images/as330puma.jpg

AB412EP
http://homepage.eircom.net/~steven/images/ab412uae.jpg

Black Hawk
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/black-hawk-10.jpg

[GER_Mark]

mako is dead and wil never become real

[stunnerzinc]

The F-16I is the best fighter in the M.E.

[Alex]

no the F-16 Block-60 Equipped with AESA Radar is much better.

[attitude]

When the Saudi Eurofighters arrive they will be the most superior aircraft in the middle east
I would give the Israeli F-16I the edge simply to pilot training
The aircraft are basically equal in capability
A F-16 Block 60 however could definetely take down the F-16I but the UAE pilots definetely need alot more training. They are heavily reliant on the US support in operating these jets

[UAE_CONDOR]

When the Saudi Eurofighters arrive they will be the most superior aircraft in the middle east
I would give the Israeli F-16I the edge simply to pilot training
The aircraft are basically equal in capability
A F-16 Block 60 however could definetely take down the F-16I but the UAE pilots definetely need alot more training. They are heavily reliant on the US support in operating these jets

IS Eurofighters Better F-16 ?

Add photos if possible

[GER_Mark]

if it wasnt for stealth the ef could compete with f22 easily

[PersianChico]

if it wasnt for stealth the ef could compete with f22 easily

big thx to admin ;)

[Tbagger]

The F-16I is the best fighter in the M.E.
The F-15I is the best.

[Tbagger]

The F-16I is the best fighter in the M.E.
The F-15I is the best. ;)

Anyway, the UAE should just ditch those Mirages and go for more F-16Es. :)

[UAE_CONDOR]

The F-15I is the best. ;)

Anyway, the UAE should just ditch those Mirages and go for more F-16Es. :)

Mirages owned by the UAE with special specifications

[Soroush]

F-16 Block-60 is definatley not the best right now, F-15I takes the crown because it can play as multi-fighter and generally it has much more better avoinics, a2a variablities and great agility.

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/aircraft/f-15i/f-15i_6.jpg

[UAE_CONDOR]

UAE armed air will get

MV-22 Osprey
http://www.bluejacket.com/usmc/images/mv22_osprey_lhd2_essex_direct-po3-lowe_po3-pylarinos.jpg
http://homepage.eircom.net/~helicopters/v22d.jpg

E-2C Hawkeye
http://www.jefflewis.net/graphics/aircraft/E-2C_Hawkeye2.jpg

[UAE_CONDOR]

UAE will get

F-117 in 2010
http://www.fredsboringpictures.com/images/Holloman%200405/images/058%20F-117.jpg

[stunnerzinc]

UAE will get

F-117 in 2010

In your dreams. U.A.E might get it, if America decides to remove the RAM. Besides, the F-117 is being phased out.

[UAE_CONDOR]

In your dreams. U.A.E might get it, if America decides to remove the RAM. Besides, the F-117 is being phased out.

I am not sure

But the reputation that the UAE will include F-117 to its air force in 2009 & 2010

With sophisticated equipment from the United States

News source some officers stressed to me the credibility of the news and some magazines were published in the news

Relations the United Arab Emirates and United States of America excellent Latestebaad credibility of the news

[UAE_CONDOR]

Relations the United Arab Emirates and United States of America excellent Latestebaad credibility of the news

[Tbagger]

Why does the UAE even need the stealth fighter? Their F-16E/Fs are the best Vipers out on the market today.

[Soroush]

Why does the UAE even need the stealth fighter? Their F-16E/Fs are the best Vipers out on the market today.

I don't think they are going for anything that has stealth technology, I mean are they planning to invade/attack a country with such small armed forces of their own?. They'll go for the falcons but eagles is very less likely because just like the ones saudis have it will be downgraded again.

[UAE_CONDOR]

Why does the UAE even need the stealth fighter? Their F-16E/Fs are the best Vipers out on the market today.

UAE Possess F-16E AND F-16F
I do not know but F-117 excellent

[Soroush]

UAE Possess F-16E AND F-16F
I do not know but F-117 excellent

no stealth bomber has ever been handed to any country, not even the UK has recieved anything too much technological advanced other than the JSF but what makes you think UAE will get it...

[UAE_CONDOR]

no stealth bomber has ever been handed to any country, not even the UK has recieved anything too much technological advanced other than the JSF but what makes you think UAE will get it...

I do not know

News source some officers stressed to me the credibility of the news and some magazines were published in the news

[Soroush]

I do not know

News source some officers stressed to me the credibility of the news and some magazines were published in the news

well just because they said it doesn't mean it's true. it doesn't make any sense either.

[Alex]

why doens't uae buy russian equipment i feels like us is pushing them to just buy american expensive equipment

[stunnerzinc]

Because American equipment owns Russian equipment.

[UAE_CONDOR]

no stealth bomber has ever been handed to any country, not even the UK has recieved anything too much technological advanced other than the JSF but what makes you think UAE will get it...


Why America approved the sale TO UAE F-16F Block 60 While Israel is not owned

I think in 2010 F-117 Will be old For TO American


There is competition between the Russian and American industry, French

[stunnerzinc]

Why America approved the sale TO UAE F-16F Block 60 While Israel is not owned
Isreal has the F-16I, which is a LOT better then the F-16 Block60. And no, UAE will NOT get the F-117.

[masguy]

UAE's Defence Force is amazing....:yes1:

[Pylyp Orlyk]

UAE's Defence Force is amazing....:yes1:

It certainly is, question is do they have the bodies and skills to man it?

[CallMeRussian]

Isreal has the F-16I, which is a LOT better then the F-16 Block60. And no, UAE will NOT get the F-117.

The Block-60 is only an F-16 in appearence,


Dont know where i read that, But its a good call,.

[MADali]

UAE having an army or not has no affect on its future.

[CallMeRussian]

UAE having an army or not has no affect on its future.

Why not, thats an extreamly odd thing to say. Please elaborate.

[MADali]

UAE cant defend itself against any country, without the support of other nations, nor can it attack any other country.

Its country is too small to pose a threat one way or the other.

[CallMeRussian]

UAE cant defend itself against any country, without the support of other nations, nor can it attack any other country.

Its country is too small to pose a threat one way or the other.

Its weappms are for devensive purposes hence its army dose mean somthing, They have one of the most extensive mixture of Anti-Air systems i have seen for a country that size, They have one of the best Fighter's in the region, A **** load of MLRS on the way, And good tanks,

Unless the whole region tryes attacking it , I think it can do pretty well holding its ground,

[javid khan]

its not the machine its the man inside the machine

[attitude]

Pointless for the UAE to get the F-117
It is fully detectable buy todays new modern radars and has already been comprimised in combat
Its a liability now in combat due to its lack of defensive armanents and slow speed and that its detectable

[CallMeRussian]

its not the machine its the man inside the machine


And what makes a tall skinny curry eating pakistani weapons operator better then a USA operator, Talk like you have some super race,

[Tallgeese]

The F-16E/F Block 60 was a waste of money. I think that the UAEAF should have opted for the Rafale or Typhoon which offers way more bang for buck than the F-16E/F Block 60. Besides, when you think about it, the F-16E/F Block 60 is a gross over-stretch of the F-16's development & one that was not warranted by virtue of the fact that baseline Rafale or Typhoon are way ahead of it in performance.

I think that the UAEAF hasn't lost all, but it can replace the Mirage 2000-9 with the Rafale in future (an enhanced version) hence gaining some useful capability. As for the F-1-17A entering UAE service, well, I doubt that the Americans would allow that, not so much because they fear it will be used against Israel but because they don't want to trust the F-1-17A to any country period (except maybe the UK or Australia) as many have a bad habit of letting their potential rivals (i.e. Russians or Chinese) of gaining a look.

[Tallgeese]

UAEAF against IRIAF scenario isn't particularly favourable for both countries. If the UAE got E-767 MESA, LINK 16, KC-767 (for inflight refueling) both Boeing 767 airframes providing useful commonality & some S-300PU for the ground forces (to down incoming ballistic missiles) the UAEAF would then have something to brag about, & could take back its islands from Iran & undermine Iranian efforts. Only problem is the UAE needs a submarine force (so I'd buy six Scorpeane submarine from the French) problem solved. UAE needs to spend its defence bill more wisely.

[Missile]

UAE could also purchase F-18Es and F-15Cs and those good fighters are possible to be purchased only by being obey for USA like UAE for expamle but that won't foretell good.

[Tallgeese]

Few more F-16E/F would be wise at this stage, & the Rafale or Typhoon to replace the Mirage 2000-9 in the future would make a lot of sense. The F/A-18E/F & F-15C are too conventional.

[def]

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[sayenforever]

Tallgeese - the F-16 is the most beautiful plane in the world bar none. But the F-18 is better plane, and no middle eastern country should waste money on US inventory.

1) Countries should be self sufficient and / or have many different suppliers, so sanctions won't affect them too strongly.

2) The US hates arabs! So whats the point of buying their gear?

[Tallgeese]

Tallgeese - the F-16 is the most beautiful plane in the world bar none. But the F-18 is better plane, and no middle eastern country should waste money on US inventory.

1) Countries should be self sufficient and / or have many different suppliers, so sanctions won't affect them too strongly.

2) The US hates arabs! So whats the point of buying their gear?

I never supported the F-16 acquisition but the UAEAF may as well get more now that they have them. F/A-18 being better (I doubt that).

[KingoftheHill]

UAE having an army or not has no affect on its future.

Why?

Pretty wierd of you to say that? I think they can hold their own atm.

[V.I.P]

uae is 3th in GCC

[Request 1]

its not the machine its the man inside the machine

Exactly right.

[Request 1]

And what makes a tall skinny curry eating pakistani weapons operator better then a USA operator, Talk like you have some super race,

Well we tall skinny curry eating pakistani weapons operators kicked your stinking Russian asses every time you violated our Airspace back in the 80's along with your Afghan puppets. not only that but we had a hell of a lot of fun shooting down Indian MiGs' durring 65, 71, and Kargil. Is that enough to make you shut the hell up? We're not a master race, and nobody is. Don't know what makes you think that but what that other guy said is very true. Don't make fun of my country, and I won't make fun of yours.

[sayenforever]

uae is 3th in GCC

GCC is last in planet

I'm kidding they're now quite powerful, especially Saudi's air force.

[sayenforever]

"Pakistan Air Force, best Air Force in the World"

La Illaha IllAllah Muhammad ur Rasoollullah

What world is that? Can't be Earth.

Does the Shahada rubber stamp that claim?

[Request 1]

What world is that? Can't be Earth.

Does the Shahada rubber stamp that claim?


Not a fact, an opinion.

Do not start with me. I did absolutely nothing to you in which you had to insult me.

[Tallgeese]

UAEAF now needs an AEW&C aircraft. It's probable that they'll look at some surplus E-2C-2000 (possibly an AESA type radar) with secure datalinking. However, the problem remains lack of LO features & it's likely that they'll be detected (whether their enemies can figure out what their intentions are is something else).

[Sokuy30]

why doens't uae buy russian equipment i feels like us is pushing them to just buy american expensive equipment

They only shop at walmart & Kmart
they have to keep masters happy.

[Sokuy30]

its not the machine its the man inside the machine
Only way they can win is to have nuclear tip on all their missiles, I just have seen in the past they have problems
in military instructions.

[PARSI PRIDE]

IS Eurofighters Better F-16 ?

Add photos if possible


are those actually UAE planes or just photo shop photos of US fighters?

[shiker]

uae airforce is pretty strong in the middle east , because it consists of advanced aircrafts .. there is a program which started 2 years ago to train uae nationals to become airforce pilots and they give them alot of cash . starting from 8000$ a month. its a good program i guess :)
uae wants its nationals to become pilots to get rid of the pakistanis ..

[Sokuy30]

uae airforce is pretty strong in the middle east , because it consists of advanced aircrafts .. there is a program which started 2 years ago to train uae nationals to become airforce pilots and they give them alot of cash . starting from 8000$ a month. its a good program i guess :)
uae wants its nationals to become pilots to get rid of the pakistanis ..
What a sad state of afair , they don't have their own pilots?
How in the world you are going to defend yourselves?
Pakistanies are not going to dies for you for $10.00 a day.
That's what i always say minimum square miles required to be a country , maybe at least populations of 10 million people. Please don't

[KingoftheHill]

They only shop at walmart & Kmart
they have to keep masters happy.

Not at all, you must not know about the BMP-3, BM-30 Smerch and other Russian goodies in UAE service.

[shiker]

yes we have good military , but small population .

[Musa a.s.]

Why are "supposed" Muslims so G-d damned racist?

[Dolphin]

IS Eurofighters Better F-16 ?

Add photos if possible

From what I've read, the Eurofighter is a pretty splendid fighter. The Block 60 F-16 ought to be a more capable ground attack plane. Then again, pilot training and experience are great equalizers.

[Dolphin]

are those actually UAE planes or just photo shop photos of US fighters?

They appear to be UAE F-16's. I've seen the same photos elsewhere. Here's a link to a website with pretty complete F-16 info for you. They have an extensive database and frequently have input from F-16 drivers world wide as well as other pilots. It's a nice, educational site that's pretty politics free. You'll just have to decipher what I tell you because I don't have enough postings to write a link. Just go to

f-16 dot net

Enjoy!:-)

[Sokuy30]

Stop, you've been completely invalidated, why don't you do some research on the place before making another ill-fated diss. BTW Bahamia doesn't exist!! :roflmao3::roflmao3:


what's CA? California? What are YOU doing here? :huh2:
When a patient says I am sick I accept it, maybe bahamia
exist in your head and you don't know it,
Recently , I have seen some sh.. holes call themselves country but they don't even make one city in Afghanistan in their size .
If I was there it would be baseball bat policy, same thing i do in California , wackthemall ...
anyone who sleeps with spewing camel is a camel.

[worldleader]

well then what does europe have to counter the f22 or f35? any plans on the poipeline?

[Chiloe]

Thread stickied.

[RH53D_AMCM]

Although an American, I believe that the UAE and other nations with whom we do business are well-served when they purchase non-US systems. When a nation such as the UAE has the money to buy excellent weapon systems, spares, maintenance support, training, indigenous infrastructure to achieve independence, and the necessary interfaces to match up Western, Russian, and "neutral" systems -- GO FOR IT. It benefits the customer country which is the key goal. Additionally, we have all seen the vagaries of international politics and how that can affect adversely the sources of supply, maintenance, and training for existing weapon systems.

DIVERSIFICATION IS PARAMOUNT.

Want good air defense systems? Buy Russian.
Diesel-electric submarines? Buy German or French.
Medium-sized warships? Buy Dutch, Spanish, or German.
Smaller combatants like PGGs and PTGs? Buy German, French, or Russian.

Training: Buy American or British.



Just some examples...

[Musa a.s.]

The Eurofighter is it's own enemy. Too darn expensive to buy, and upkeep. I wouldn't blame the jet itself though. It's creators are responsible for that. Sometimes you got to give a little to recieve. Look at the best Russia made?

[Nationstates]

2) The US hates arabs! So whats the point of buying their gear?

Eh? I most certainly do not hate Arabs.

[Nationstates]

DIVERSIFICATION IS PARAMOUNT.



Diversification equals horrible combat interoperability and a general MASSIVE lack of unit cohesion resulting from using different weapon systems from different countries, with India serving as a prime example. Supplying conflicting weapon systems from two different countries is by no means "good" for the UAE.

[cedar]

They have know choice theres no thing as a reliable allie these days so diversification is compulsory. israel had a variety of french and american fighters and it handled them ok so i think its a myth that u cant operate different products for a defence force.