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worldleader
09-29-2007, 08:12 PM
what is the size of egyptian economy? has "peace" with "israel" helped at all? has america kept its promise? does egypt enjoy any good rewards for being on good terms with israel?

abu sulayman
09-29-2007, 09:03 PM
http://www.economist.com/countries/Egypt/profile.cfm?folder=Profile-Economic%20Structure

Peace with Israel gives Egypt $2.5 billion for it's military, plus access to US markets for it's products. The economy is doing well.

worldleader
09-30-2007, 05:24 PM
egypt with 70+mln shouldve 1.55 trn $. faring quite poorly now im afraid. any reasons?

kaiser_tr
10-01-2007, 06:09 AM
worldleader i guess you're an iranian right? since you've been joined the forum all you do is bashing turks&egyptians etc.. anyone but iranians:)

worldleader
10-01-2007, 04:31 PM
kaiser_turk, show me proof. can you?

retaxis
10-02-2007, 12:24 PM
I agree with kaiser you need to stop trash talking certain countries in a snide manner.

worldleader
10-02-2007, 05:22 PM
retaxis which countries did i trash talk in a snide manner?

worldleader
10-02-2007, 05:24 PM
saying egypt's economy hasn't got the kickstart it should've got IF american promises were true isn't a snide remark against any country. it shows american politicians zionists and extremists are deceptive use treachery and lies to lure gullible peoples into servitude serfdom and slavery.

not-now
10-05-2007, 06:22 PM
egypt is growing it's part of the N-11 group of countries set to have a significant impact on the world economy :)

worldleader
10-05-2007, 06:37 PM
N-11 by goldman scach? that's wishful thinking. after bric, they added n-11 with mostly third wolrd muslim countries (no offence). they estimated this based on population size nothing else. policy directives need to be taken too.

kaiser_tr
10-09-2007, 04:46 AM
ok..turkey-pakistan and now egypt...who is next worldleader? who you gonna bash next?

kaiser_tr
10-09-2007, 04:47 AM
btw i think goldman sachs's economists may know more than you.

mustavaris
10-09-2007, 05:57 AM
saying egypt's economy hasn't got the kickstart it should've got IF american promises were true isn't a snide remark against any country. it shows american politicians zionists and extremists are deceptive use treachery and lies to lure gullible peoples into servitude serfdom and slavery.


Maybe they cannot use the billions they get in efficient manner?
Maybe their government is corrupt and mismanaging their country?
Maybe their excessive population growth hinders their development?
Maybe the fact that they suppress their women who are far from getting equal chances while they make half of the population hinders their development?

Oh wait, no way.. it cannot be so. What a fool I am.

It must be the Zionists and the treacherous Americans who keep them down..

snc128
10-09-2007, 06:02 AM
Economic scales show Egyptian economy has been improving since they keep peace with Israel and vice versa.

mustavaris
10-09-2007, 06:04 AM
Economic scales show Egyptian economy has been improving since they keep peace with Israel and vice versa.

How the Egyptian economy fares when you compare it to other non-oil-geared entities in the region which have not made peace with the Evil Zs? Thatīs where the question is. Methinks that they have done rather well (now just telling my impression)

snc128
10-09-2007, 06:15 AM
How the Egyptian economy fares when you compare it to other non-oil-geared entities in the region which have not made peace with the Evil Zs? Thatīs where the question is. Methinks that they have done rather well (now just telling my impression)

as far as I understand you.you are right.besides, one should not ignore the other powers in the region other than Israel.one keeps peace with Israel,the other keeps peace with Russia,and the other keeps peace with Turkiye and improves relations...
stability is what the region needs unlike old,tired,tranquil Europe.

mustavaris
10-09-2007, 06:21 AM
stability is what the region needs unlike old,tired,tranquil Europe.

Definately right about ME. But we ainīt all that old, tired nor tranquil!

M Nabil
10-09-2007, 06:43 AM
Maybe their government is corrupt and mismanaging their country?

This is true.


Maybe the fact that they suppress their women who are far from getting equal chances while they make half of the population hinders their development?

This is not true, women in Egypt have equal rights with men, they get education, they have the right to vote, there are women ministers and judges.

We had women judges and scientists in the 30s.

I don't know why do you assume that it is a "fact" that women are suppressed in Egypt ?

mustavaris
10-09-2007, 07:15 AM
I don't know why do you assume that it is a "fact" that women are suppressed in Egypt ?

Due to reason that I know one Arab woman from Egypt.

Circumcisions are just part of the crap. Egypt is not as bad as many other countries in ME, and I do not deny for example educational rights but actual situation is such that the women have to choose between family OR work. In most cases they cannot have both. That is a burden for societyīs development.

M Nabil
10-09-2007, 07:32 AM
Due to reason that I know one Arab woman from Egypt.

Circumcisions are just part of the crap. Egypt is not as bad as many other countries in ME, and I do not deny for example educational rights but actual situation is such that the women have to choose between family OR work. In most cases they cannot have both. That is a burden for society´s development.

Circumcision is an ancient habit in Nile and African countries, like Ethiopia, Somalia, Sudan, and Egypt. It is a bad habit I agree but the government currently is trying to stop it, A recent law prohibits it, and media campaigns have been launched in recent years to make people aware that it is not right.

And about the choice between family and work, you're totally not right, The majority of women in Egypt are working women. Government and private establishments are just full of working women, anybody who has been to Egypt knows that. Most women in my family are working women, several of them are doctors, My own mother is a working woman.

Assad
10-09-2007, 10:29 AM
egypt is growing it's part of the N-11 group of countries set to have a significant impact on the world economy :)


I am sorry but this has to be a joke right? i mean come on...

Assad
10-09-2007, 10:34 AM
How the Egyptian economy fares when you compare it to other non-oil-geared entities in the region which have not made peace with the Evil Zs? Thatīs where the question is. Methinks that they have done rather well (now just telling my impression)

me thinks you are wrong on all counts. However i agree with you on your previous posting...it is corruption, mismanagement. ineffeciency etc that holds egypt back from a level of performance way over and above what it does now.

Assad
10-09-2007, 10:45 AM
... women have to choose between family OR work. In most cases they cannot have both. That is a burden for societyīs development.

actually that is a choice women make all over the world not only in egypt or the arab world. AND in reality it really is impossible to have both - and trying to have both is like having your cake and eating it ... in addition trying to have both implies reaching a compromise on both work and home and as all people know, a compromise is the worst of both worlds, something has to give ... it is illogical and plain stupid to be honest... and just because you practice it in the west does not mean its right either. It may work for you but it may not work for us and our values. another important point to raise is whether a woman works or not is a decision between herself and her husband i.e. a family decision that we have no business in.

In any case what right do you have to dictate your values on a society alien to yours? Egypt's society and social norms need to develop from within to solve their own unqiue problems according to thier own cultural values, idenitity and norms, at a rate at which society will be able to funcation normally... and not some sort of super imposed western goblidy gook arrogance.

not-now
10-09-2007, 11:58 AM
I am sorry but this has to be a joke right? i mean come on...

no it's not a joke

http://www.bankresearch.org/economicpolicyblog/2006/07/after_brics_gol.html

Assad
10-09-2007, 12:35 PM
no it's not a joke

http://www.bankresearch.org/economicpolicyblog/2006/07/after_brics_gol.html

I guess it is a joke...by 2050 man at the rate egypts economy is growing...thats nothing. I would not take that report too seriously...

not-now
10-09-2007, 12:46 PM
N-11 by goldman scach? that's wishful thinking. after bric, they added n-11 with mostly third wolrd muslim countries (no offence). they estimated this based on population size nothing else. policy directives need to be taken too.

yes thats one of the factors population can also count towards a bigger economy I.E india and china have a massive labour force and middle class.

Goldman Sachs used macroeconomic stability, political maturity, openness of trade and investment policies and quality of education as criteria

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_11

besides only 4 out of 11 -indonesia,pakistan,bangladesh and mexico have really big populations the rest of them aren't exactly population giants.
Anyway i don't see why you should put it down I usually look on the bright side I'm happy to see an unbiased and well known organisation to list many muslim countries as having a bright future for economic growth.:)

worldleader
10-09-2007, 07:00 PM
goldman sachs unbiased and well known since it says muslim countries are parts of n-11? lol. if it praised israel, the "jewish" investment bank would be in for lots of criticism.
it's not unbiased friend.