The First Human To Fly Was A Muslim

[JF-17 Thunder]

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JF-17 Thunder

[SOMALI_SOULJA]

i know that muslims brought new things in the world, while europians lived in an cave, they stole evrything of africa, and they colinzed us muslims and used divide and rule strategy and, they controlled medias, like after 9/11 that muslims are terrorists, but we can show them that we are wrong, and you know what they say history repeats itself, today zionists are losing power, and for the first time ppl all over the world are united against zionism, it was just an test of allah, but we forgot who were, we had forgotten what god told us, just like jews had forgotten their roots, its an new day new time, with other words an new revolution is born, the q is would you like to join it ore would you like to sleep, open ur eyes brothers

[NEWUSER]

Thunder, please post the source; would like to read more.

[Amil]

while europians lived in an cave, they stole evrything of africa,


Agreed:) :) :)

[azad]

well actually the only written source about the event is evliya celebi's seyahatname.. (a turkish traveller that lived in the 17th century)

yet the problem with evliya celebi is he is a rather sarcastic person, and loves making up stories..

if we take everything he says seriously, we'll have to believe that erzurum (a turkish province) is so cold that cats freeze on the sky while jumping from one roof to another..

another of his most famous stories is about a man named lagari hasan celebi..

lagari allegedly made the first rocket and had the intention to land on the moon..

according to evliya celebi, he actually succeeded in taking off during a demonstration, and hovered for at least 250 meters..

the funniest thing about the story is lagari was expecting to meet jesus in the skies, and he was ordered by the sultan to deliver his 'as-salamu alaykum'..

here is more of him in wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagari_Hasan_%C3%87elebi

[Kardash]

well actually the only written source about the event is evliya celebi's seyahatname.. (a turkish traveller that lived in the 17th century)

yet the problem with evliya celebi is he is a rather sarcastic person, and loves making up stories..

if we take everything he says seriously, we'll have to believe that erzurum (a turkish province) is so cold that cats freeze on the sky while jumping from one roof to another..

another of his most famous stories is about a man named lagari hasan celebi..

lagari allegedly made the first rocket and had the intention to land on the moon..

according to evliya celebi, he actually succeeded in taking off during a demonstration, and hovered for at least 250 meters..

the funniest thing about the story is lagari was expecting to meet jesus in the skies, and he was ordered by the sultan to deliver his 'as-salamu alaykum'..

here is more of him in wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagari_Hasan_%C3%87elebi

he doesnt "some up" things maybe only exaggerates it, he has wright about how it can be cold in Erzurum (somethimes above -20).

the funniest thing about the story is lagari was expecting to meet jesus in the skies, and he was ordered by the sultan to deliver his 'as-salamu alaykum'..

that whas a sarcastic act of the Sultan :D Ofcourse he knows it isnt possible todo so :)

[azad]

he doesnt "some up" things maybe only exaggerates it, he has wright about how it can be cold in Erzurum (somethimes above -20).

well actually he does, like women giving birth to elephants, caves prophesying about the future events or physicians who cure incurable diseases and etc..

he is a perfect story teller, someone that would surely be a nobel nominee if he had lived in the 20th or 21st century, yet his historical accuracy is something questionable..

I think there is an airport named after 'Herazfen Ahmet Celebi' in Turkey and some other things. So no, it's not some made up story.

turks actually believe both hezarfen and lagari were actual people.. both throughout time have become important elements in the turkish culture..

on the other hand historians regard the event as a legend, the main reason being that it was only recorded in a single source, although the 17th century ottomans were the most bureaucratic people that ever existed, and literally wrote down every single thing that ever happened..

actually the most prominent experts on ottoman history have stated that as long as a second source is not found/discovered, the stories about hezarfen and lagari can only be viewed as legends..

to name a couple of these experts;

Prof. Dr. Ekmeleddin İhsanoğlu - the Secretary General of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC)
Prof. Dr. Yusuf Halaçoğlu - the president of TDK - Türk Tarih Kurumu (Turkish History Society)
Prof. Dr. İlber Ortaylı - the director of the Topkapı Palace Museum..

moreover, no aviation association in the world accepts that hezarfen was the first person to fly..

more info is available on the subject for the turkish speakers:
http://www.aksiyon.com.tr/yazdir.php?id=11822

[Da Sha]

Fake. No substantial evidence. If Muslims were the first to fly then why still use your hand to wipe your ***?

[PJPM]

doesn't matter what religion was the first man to fly it's a matter of which first human to fly. so don't say the first muslism cause ppl aren't going to accept that say the first man to fly was this guy and this date. don't go into a religious war.

[GunnySmith]

Yes, even if he did, what good came of it? No-one started buiding aircraft for useful purposes until the early 20th century.

[Pylyp Orlyk]

I thought first person to fly was in a balloon in France...

[GunnySmith]

I think the first person to fly was that guy who jumped out of the coconut tree, it didn't last for very long, but he sure did go fast!