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Shafaq
09-10-2006, 04:02 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2006/09/10/MNGB8L2TAP1.DTL&type=politics

Video of Iran's test missile called fake

Julian E. Barnes, Los Angeles Times

Sunday, September 10, 2006

(09-10) 04:00 PDT Washington -- U.S. military intelligence has determined that a video released by the Iranian government purporting to show a test of a new submarine missile is bogus, three Pentagon officials confirmed.

The Iranians released the video Aug. 27, one of a series of steps the Tehran government has taken in recent months to display its military potency in the midst of a confrontation with the United States and other Western nations over its nuclear ambitions.

The test apparently was designed to intimidate Iran's neighbors in the Persian Gulf, including Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, which are U.S. allies and important oil-producing countries, regional experts said. The video showed what appeared to be a successful test of a submarine-fired missile that flies above the water's surface to attack ships.

But U.S. intelligence officers analyzed the plume of smoke from the missile and determined it matched a video of an earlier Chinese test.

"It's the identical launch," a Pentagon official said. "The plume, everything, is the same."

U.S. officials have been unable to confirm whether any test took place during the Iranian exercise. They say they are certain, however, that the video of the purported test is not of an Iranian sub in the Persian Gulf.

U.S. intelligence agencies have been closely tracking developments in Iran in an attempt to monitor Tehran's efforts to build up its nuclear capabilities as well as its conventional military capacity. The surveillance efforts are part of what experts see as a strategic contest of increasing complexity, with the two nations working to decipher each other's motivations and intentions.

The purported missile test, which was announced by Iran's official news agency a day before the video was released, was made public days before an Aug. 31 deadline set by the United Nations for Iran to halt its uranium enrichment.

The test video was broadcast on Iranian state television and picked up around the world, including by CNN and Fox News.

What has American military officers scratching their heads is why the Iranians would see the need to release a bogus video.

"They have enough things they can do to frighten people, I don't know why they would have to fake something," a senior defense official said. "They are frightening enough as it is without faking things."

Iran said it was conducting the missile test as part of a summer war games exercise in the Persian Gulf that began Aug. 19. U.S. military officials believe such exercises are aimed primarily at intimidating gulf countries.

"It is like when the missiles went through Red Square in front of the Politburo," a military official said. "Their MO is to put on a media blitz."

The officials asked that their names not be used because the Defense Department had decided not to publicize the discovery of the bogus test. Taking on the role of superpower tattletale could exacerbate already tense relations, or potentially provoke more, real tests.

Pentagon officials said Iran possessed several Russian Kilo-class submarines, the kind of sub shown in the Chinese video. Iran's growing naval capability is real, said the senior official, which is what made the use of bogus video seem particularly "clumsy."

"They do have a serious military capability," the official said. "They are a growing military problem."

:frown3:

Hawk_nr1
09-10-2006, 04:37 PM
Can someone find the video of submarine firing thanks :huh2:

"They do have a serious military capability," the official said. "They are a growing military ."

Hell yeah :biggrin1:

Soroush
09-10-2006, 04:45 PM
No one is saying the video was fake or any of that matter but the picture that was taken from the videos were almost the exact same as the one China had and they mistakened that, FARS news does sometimes put in any picture it wants to describe the events from Iran so I'm not sure if the picture they published was fake or real and I can assure you the live test of the missile is real and not a chinese one!.

Alex
09-10-2006, 05:03 PM
yeah the test was real. wich country does risk it's reputation. this is like a insult but then again i remember america said that irans torpedo was fake to.

Mr.Perfect
09-10-2006, 05:03 PM
maybe the missile was Chiny made or exported from china that’s why its was similar in lunch but one thing for sure i most agree with Flanker they are more evidence that the test took place never the less i don’t know if the missile was really made by Iran or not, maybe it was exported but the test took place no doubt. Once again US made fool of it self by state these BS, plus they were saying same for bin Laddan’s tapes for a while till someone declared the tapes are real. I think they got to ask those US warships captains that monitor every move that a fly make in Persian gulf but not bunch of stupid politicians who talks only for their benefits.

arteshi
09-13-2006, 06:06 PM
Can someone find the video of submarine firing thanks :huh2:

"They do have a serious military capability," the official said. "They are a growing military ."

Hell yeah :biggrin1:

they are a growing military problem, not a growing military. just a point of concern for USN, nothing more. Until Iranians get a modern fleet with modern weapons and radars, they would not scare even Omanies. If Iran get to cooperate with India or china they may start making up some of the time they lost. of course Chinese or Indian help would be good but best would be to send students to Italy or France and Germany. Or send them to UK or Japan, this to create a well organized and trained cadre of designers and skills needed for a military shipbuilding program ( i believe the shah was in the planning stage to send Iranians to learn modern shipbuilding in the USA), then Iranians could start with big projects like corvettes and light frigates, which would have Russian or chinese systems onboard.
after gaining experience the Iranians could in theory work on their own projects, but that would be in the long term future and too costly, Iran should jointly develope naval system and vessels with regional states.:)