Iran-Made PT Boat Launches Mission

[Mr.Perfect]

TEHRAN (Fars News Agency)- Iran-made PT boat named 'Joshan' joined Iranian navy Wednesday morning in the presence of the Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei.



http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8506290496

[Good Guy 2]

nice...... : D

[Alex]

very nice but what is a PT boat. what does PT stand for?

[shaan_haider]

very nice but what is a PT boat. what does PT stand for?

Patrol Torpedo (PT) Boats. These boats are real and strategic need of IRAN Navy and should be produced as much as possible before a confrontation with US Navy.

In combat operations these boats change their position very fast and can prove to be a real headache and destructive for the Gaint American Ships in the Gulf and as mentioned these are fitted with all kinds of Missiles capable to strike even upto or more than 100 kms.

Good IRAN.

[The_Kingdom]

Good boat!

[Wheellug]

Should make for a good patrol boat, gun boat, or coastal patrol.
PT is an older term for Patrol-Torpedo.
PT boats came about during WW1/WW2 with several variations around the world.

[Janbaz]

Any one have the picture of the New Iranian FAJR (yes another FAJR name) Cannon?
The news was announced three days ago.

[Capricorn Edge]

Very good news!!:biggrin1: Under the current security condition in the Persian Gulf, i hope Iran's military has more than 30 of these boats by 2008.

[HarrierGR9]

Call that a patrol boat!!

That is more like a glorified fishing tug!

In any confrontation with the US or Royal Navy, that 'thing' ain’t going to last a minute. One Harpoon SSM, and it's sunk.

Sorry, but if that is the best Iran can build there is not much point even trying.

[DehdaR]

Call that a patrol boat!!

That is more like a glorified fishing tug!

In any confrontation with the US or Royal Navy, that 'thing' ain’t going to last a minute. One Harpoon SSM, and it's sunk.

Sorry, but if that is the best Iran can build there is not much point even trying.

Iran can fire cruise missiles from submarines capable of carrying nuclear warheads. This is a fact.

We don’t need to fear a confrontation with the US or the Royal Navy. You need to fear the ultimate consequences of a confrontation.

[shaan_haider]

Call that a patrol boat!!

That is more like a glorified fishing tug!

In any confrontation with the US or Royal Navy, that 'thing' ain’t going to last a minute. One Harpoon SSM, and it's sunk.

Sorry, but if that is the best Iran can build there is not much point even trying.

The above quotation of yours was valid only ten years before. But as of todate it can only be considered as an obsolete comment passed due to incomplete information.

As of todate Iran has the biggest L-band research centre in the middle east and most of the modern Iranian equipment like these PT boats is undetectable by the american radars and hence cannot be attacked by us navy. (and this is already been tested).

These boats due to their high manevourability can prove to be real headache for Gaint US Naval ships and help boast Iran's presence in the Persian Gulf.

These boats are not the only equipment Iran has for its defence. Iran has much more than that i.e stealth aircrafts, stealth missiles, worlds fastest stealth torpedoes, advanced electronics, anti-anti-anti electronics warfare capability and much more.

Infact, today US is not in position to challange Iran Militarily.

:smile1:


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[HarrierGR9]

Iran can fire cruise missiles from submarines capable of carrying nuclear warheads. This is a fact.

We don’t need to fear a confrontation with the US or the Royal Navy. You need to fear the ultimate consequences of a confrontation.

What is the point of having cruise missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads when your President says that Iran has no desire for such a weapon:) ?

I don't want a conflict, all I am saying is that if one happened, the Iranian navy would be Annihilated.

[shaan_haider]

What is the point of having cruise missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads when your President says that Iran has no desire for such a weapon:) ?

I don't want a conflict, all I am saying is that if one happened, the Iranian navy would be Annihilated.

Iran can fire cruise missiles from submarines capable of carrying nuclear warheads. This is a fact.

We don’t need to fear a confrontation with the US or the Royal Navy. You need to fear the ultimate consequences of a confrontation.

Yes ........ absolutely right ..... there is no reason for fear in confronting the US Naval Fleets as IRAN do not need to travel thousands of Kms to the Atlantic Ocean to fight the American Naval Fleets & Units.

The Persian Gulf region is best suited to the Iranian Defences and is most unsuitable for US Naval Fleets & Units & Large Submarines.

If the conflict occurs in Persian Gulf Americans will have to say good bye to their naval fleets & units & submarines in the area for ever.

Iran has far more capabilities than what the Americans think. But Iran insists that it is immoral to build Nuclear Bombs for the destruction of the innocent humans and it is against islamic values and teaching.

GREAT IRAN! ......... :smile1:

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[DehdaR]

What is the point of having cruise missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads when your President says that Iran has no desire for such a weapon:) ?


... you don't need me to tell you that we want to avoid sanctions :)

[NEWUSER]

....all I am saying is that if one happened, the Iranian navy would be Annihilated.

I do not think so.

[Power_Serj]

As of todate Iran has the biggest L-band research centre in the middle east and most of the modern Iranian equipment like these PT boats is undetectable by the american radars and hence cannot be attacked by us navy. (and this is already been tested). :D :D :D How the hell would they test this? With the 1980's American radar they have? Undetectable by radar? HAHAHA!


These boats are not the only equipment Iran has for its defence. Iran has much more than that i.e stealth aircrafts, stealth missiles, worlds fastest stealth torpedoes, advanced electronics, anti-anti-anti electronics warfare capability and much more. stealth aircraft? Good one! What stealth aircraft does it have? Oh, I guess they were made with invisible paint so no-one can see them! Worlds fastest stealth torpedoes? anti-anti-anti-anti-anti- electronic warfare? WOW, in the little time they have been building up their military, they already have superior equipment! Smart Iranians, stupid Americanss! :roflmao3: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

Do you actually believe anything you said?


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[shaan_haider]

:D :D :D How the hell would they test this? With the 1980's American radar they have? Undetectable by radar? HAHAHA!


stealth aircraft? Good one! What stealth aircraft does it have? Oh, I guess they were made with invisible paint so no-one can see them! Worlds fastest stealth torpedoes? anti-anti-anti-anti-anti- electronic warfare? WOW, in the little time they have been building up their military, they already have superior equipment! Smart Iranians, stupid Americanss! :roflmao3: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:

Do you actually believe anything you said?




Please read the following thread and update your information:

http://www.irandefence.net/showthread.php?t=3333&highlight=anchor

Iranians are far more advanced than what the Americans think and believe.


......according to Iranian General........Our tactics are completely different from the enemy's conventional tactics......Even our enemies know full well that one of our submarines passed under one of their [vessels], without their noticing. We came close to their anchored vessels, and we even filmed their anchor chain. We followed them through a periscope at a depth of one kilometer, without their noticing. All these methods and tactics are non-classical and non-conventional, constituting unbalanced warfare.....

the same submarine that passed underneath the American warship could have done other things as well. It could pass underneath it against - doing other things. The same goes for the unmanned planes. The same unmanned plane that flew over the warships in the Persian Gulf, taking pictures of them all, can do other things if equipped with a warhead. No matter how large they (USA) are, they have vulnerabilities.

Iran Airforce : Our planes have been given to us by their manufacturing countries, BUT if these countries ever face our planes, they will see things that even they could not imagine. The modifications our planes have undergone - in their systems for combat, identification, missiles, launching, and smart bombs - all of these are not what they had built.

FYI ..... Iran has not build its defensive power in little or no time. During the 8-years of war with Iraq, it was battle tested and proved that the Russian and European technology and the American electronics which were put at the disposal of Saddam failed to break and defeat the Iranian defences.

Now if the conflict occurs in Persian Gulf, it will be first direct confrontation of the Iranian and American technologies and equipments. Remember almost half of the Iranian Airforce and Navy is trained by the Americans themselves and today Iranians are far more advanced and well equipped than before.

Today Iranians are more confident than ever before and have the capability to confront and defeat the most modern and powerful military in the history of the mankind by using the element of "SURPRISE".

It does not mean that Iran will not suffer damage but only with a struggle of 2-3 months Iran will be able to break the backbone of the invaders and defeat them in an unbalanced and historic war.

The win over the US will only be achieved thru Determination, Struggle and Sacrifices for which the Islamic Revolution has already long prepared its followers across the Globe.

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[ThePuss]

We followed them through a periscope at a depth of one kilometer, without their noticing.
Iranian submarines have 1500m long periscopes?
Now that would create one hell of a signature on sonar but wait I know it is an Iranian stealth periscope that has no sonar signature. :roflmao3:

[Pylyp Orlyk]

Iranian submarines have 1500m long periscopes?

Since when is a kilometer 1500ms? :roflmao3:

[ThePuss]

Since when is a kilometer 1500ms? :roflmao3:
Ok it is a 1000m, that's the trouble when you still use miles, so are you claiming there are 1000m long periscopes?

[Pylyp Orlyk]

Ok it is a 1000m, that's the trouble when you still use miles, so are you claiming there are 1000m long periscopes?

Of course not, obviously the story is horse manuer

Even our enemies know full well that one of our submarines passed under one of their [vessels], without their noticing. ]

If they had passed without them noticing then the enemy wouldn't know full well they had done it. This story is so full of holes it puts swiss cheese to shame.

[ThePuss]

As of todate Iran has the biggest L-band research centre in the middle east and most of the modern Iranian equipment like these PT boats is undetectable by the american radars and hence cannot be attacked by us navy. (and this is already been tested).

There is now way on earth that that Iranian PT boat is stealthy, I mean look at it, it is all corners and edges. It is a bog standard PT boat, probably ideal for Iranian coastal patrols but never in a million years is this going to be sent out to meet a US carrier group unless the Iranian naval commander is as deluded as his quotes suggest.

[PJPM]

well if american says they build a UFO u guys believe them. but if iran says anything you guys don't. so must suggestion is that it's a waste of time trying to prove to someone that doesn't believe that earth is round and it doens't revolve around USA.

[kaiser_tr]

:tired1_24:

As of todate Iran has the biggest L-band research centre in the middle east and most of the modern Iranian equipment like these PT boats is undetectable by the american radars and hence cannot be attacked by us navy. (and this is already been tested).

These boats due to their high manevourability can prove to be real headache for Gaint US Naval ships and help boast Iran's presence in the Persian Gulf.

These boats are not the only equipment Iran has for its defence. Iran has much more than that i.e stealth aircrafts, stealth missiles, worlds fastest stealth torpedoes, advanced electronics, anti-anti-anti electronics warfare capability and much more.

Infact, today US is not in position to challange Iran Militarily.

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i looked at the picture of the boat and dont think it has stealth ability in fact it looks more detactable than a normal boat:)

iran's weakness is navy.everyone know that expect for iranians...if a war with usa occurs i beleive that iran wont be able to fire a single missile to usa ships.they wont be able to get close to them.

[Khaybar]

Did you ever hear of something called asymetrical warfare?, the IRGC's naval units are trained on using guerrilla tactics in naval combat, meaning fast attack boats using sunburn antiship missiles that can destroy any us navy ship, and can evade any point defense system and Phalanx, as well as the assistance of shore based antiship missile batteries.

A us navy admiral formely based in the Persian gulf said that the Irani navy is a 360 degrees threat meaning because of this tactic usinng small patrol boats equiped with the adequate weapon they can attack the us fleet from any direction with the Persian gulf.

Th best example of this type of warfare is when an egyptian nanuchka patrol boat sunk an israeli destoryer using an exocet antiship missile, during the 73 war ,and when Hezbollah managed to hit the saar destroyer off the coast of Beirut.

Another thing is that the us navy fleet is not going to be Iran's navy top priority, rather the fleet of oil tankers is going to be the target.

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تزول الجبال ولا تزل عض على ناجذك اعر الله جمجمتك تدفى في الارض قدمك ارم ببصرك اقصى القوم و غض بصرك و اعلم ان النصر من عند الله سبحانه
امير المؤمنين علي عليه السلام

[ThePuss]

Did you ever hear of something called asymetrical warfare?, the IRGC's naval units are trained on using guerrilla tactics in naval combat, meaning fast attack boats using sunburn antiship missiles that can destroy any us navy ship, and can evade any point defense system and Phalanx, as well as the assistance of shore based antiship missile batteries.

A us navy admiral formely based in the Persian gulf said that the Irani navy is a 360 degrees threat meaning because of this tactic usinng small patrol boats equiped with the adequate weapon they can attack the us fleet from any direction with the Persian gulf.

Th best example of this type of warfare is when an egyptin nanuchka patrol boat sunk an israeli destoryer using an exocet antiship missile, during the 73 war ,and when Hezbollah managed to hit the saar destroyer off the coast of Beirut.

Another thing is that the us navy fleet is not going to be Iran's navy top priority, rather the fleet of oil tankers is going to be the target.

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تزول الجبال ولا تزل عض على ناجذك اعر الله جمجمتك تدفى في الارض قدمك ارم ببصرك اقصى القوم و غض بصرك و اعلم ان النصر من عند الله سبحانه
امير المؤمنين علي عليه السلام
All of this assumes the US fleet sails right up to the coast of Iran. What is to stop them sitting 500 miles out waiting for Iran to come to them. They will run constant combat air patrols that would look for any small craft approaching and take them out at distance.
The tankers as a target is an interesting one as it is highly unlikely that if (and it is remote) the US planned to attack they would have US tankers in the gulf. If you start hitting other countries tankers you only hack them off and turn them against Iran. Anyway what a clever strategy, cover the gulf coastline in oil pollution, including Iran’s. A lot of gulf countries have a fishing industry or a tourist industry that polluted beaches and sea would kill stone dead over night. Attacking tankers is one way of surely turning Iran into an international outcast.

[Khaybar]

When it comes to war enviroment's safety is the last thing that is the mind of a strategist, Iran would hit any tanker that belongs to a country allied with the us espescially ones that have us bases within theire own territories, meaning most of the gulf nations.

Blocking the straight of Hormuz, would stop the flow of about 20 to 40 % of the world's oil supplie, experts estimated that the price of a barrel would soar to about 200 dollars a barrel, meaning a near worldwide economic depression, as long as the straight is closed, and the tankers are under attack.

This is not withous a precedent, i beleive Iran attacked oil tankers before during the Iran-Iraq war, wich forced the us to commit to operation earnest will to protect Kuwaiti oil tankers.

Remember how much the oil prices rose when the gulf states cuted off oil supplies during the 73 war.

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تزول الجبال ولا تزل عض على ناجذك اعر الله جمجمتك تدفى في الارض قدمك ارم ببصرك اقصى القوم و غض بصرك و اعلم ان النصر من عند الله سبحانه
امير المؤمنين علي عليه السلام

[ThePuss]

When it comes to war enviroment's safety is the last thing that is the mind if a strategist
The analogy would be life after a nuclear war, you win but what do you really win. The Straits and the Gulf poisoned for years but hey Iran proved to the world how mighty it is.

[Janbaz]

The Iranian Joshan PT boat is a Converted cargo ship. It was announced last year when they were talking about the Iranian Ghadir Submarine. They removed everything and rebuilt it for Iranian Navy. It was even showed in Iranian news clip that this cargo ship is going to be converted to a PT Boat but no name was announced.

[javid khan]

Very well done Iran, theres nothing better than making your own military equipment its always a learning process and saves money and you dont have to rely on others



As of todate Iran has the biggest L-band research centre in the middle east and most of the modern Iranian equipment like these PT boats is undetectable by the american radars and hence cannot be attacked by us navy. (and this is already been tested).

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Did you actully read what you wrote, you come right out of a comic book, does this boat all of a sudden sail into the barmoda triangle that it doesnt appear on radar, have you ever seen what a stealth boat looks like? actully do you even know what a stealth boat is?

[Mr. Ouiji]

TEHRAN (Fars News Agency)- Iran-made PT boat named 'Joshan' joined Iranian navy Wednesday morning in the presence of the Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei.



http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8506290496
How many were made? We should export these to Indonesia and New Thailand.

[ThePuss]

How many were made? We should export these to Indonesia and New Thailand.

In such a competative market place what makes you think this would be first choice for them or any other country. It hardly looks like leading edge, does it?

[arteshi]

Did you ever hear of something called asymetrical warfare?, the IRGC's naval units are trained on using guerrilla tactics in naval combat, meaning fast attack boats using sunburn antiship missiles that can destroy any us navy ship, and can evade any point defense system and Phalanx, as well as the assistance of shore based antiship missile batteries.

A us navy admiral formely based in the Persian gulf said that the Irani navy is a 360 degrees threat meaning because of this tactic usinng small patrol boats equiped with the adequate weapon they can attack the us fleet from any direction with the Persian gulf.

Th best example of this type of warfare is when an egyptian nanuchka patrol boat sunk an israeli destoryer using an exocet antiship missile, during the 73 war ,and when Hezbollah managed to hit the saar destroyer off the coast of Beirut.

Another thing is that the us navy fleet is not going to be Iran's navy top priority, rather the fleet of oil tankers is going to be the target.

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تزول الجبال ولا تزل عض على ناجذك اعر الله جمجمتك تدفى في الارض قدمك ارم ببصرك اقصى القوم و غض بصرك و اعلم ان النصر من عند الله سبحانه
امير المؤمنين علي عليه السلام

Egypt does not own a nanuchka class boat and never used an exocet on the israelis. they did however destroy the Eilat which was an old british navy boat sold to Israel. the attack on the Eilat was conducted with Styx missiles.

[kaiser_tr]

Did you ever hear of something called asymetrical warfare?, the IRGC's naval units are trained on using guerrilla tactics in naval combat, meaning fast attack boats using sunburn antiship missiles that can destroy any us navy ship, and can evade any point defense system and Phalanx, as well as the assistance of shore based antiship missile batteries.

A us navy admiral formely based in the Persian gulf said that the Irani navy is a 360 degrees threat meaning because of this tactic usinng small patrol boats equiped with the adequate weapon they can attack the us fleet from any direction with the Persian gulf.

Th best example of this type of warfare is when an egyptian nanuchka patrol boat sunk an israeli destoryer using an exocet antiship missile, during the 73 war ,and when Hezbollah managed to hit the saar destroyer off the coast of Beirut.

Another thing is that the us navy fleet is not going to be Iran's navy top priority, rather the fleet of oil tankers is going to be the target.

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تزول الجبال ولا تزل عض على ناجذك اعر الله جمجمتك تدفى في الارض قدمك ارم ببصرك اقصى القوم و غض بصرك و اعلم ان النصر من عند الله سبحانه
امير المؤمنين علي عليه السلام



still you have to get close to us navy ships to fire your missiles...us navy has aegis equiped ships.no chance for iran boats to approach..only thing they may see is a harpoon missile coming right to them

[Tacitus]

What is discribed as a "patrol torpedo" boat is clearly a lightly armed partol boat. I do thank the guy who posted the photo. Very nice, clear photo of a craft that I hadnt seen before.
The Iran navy and the naval wing of the IRGC are made up of brave and compident sailors. A wise government policy will protect these men and not put them into a confrontation with the world, which is what closing the straights would do. In a war with the world, the navy and air force of Iran would have a life span counted in hours or at best in days. It would be a terrible waste of brave sailors and airmen.

[Sajjad]

What is discribed as a "patrol torpedo" boat is clearly a lightly armed partol boat. I do thank the guy who posted the photo. Very nice, clear photo of a craft that I hadnt seen before.
The Iran navy and the naval wing of the IRGC are made up of brave and compident sailors. A wise government policy will protect these men and not put them into a confrontation with the world, which is what closing the straights would do. In a war with the world, the navy and air force of Iran would have a life span counted in hours or at best in days. It would be a terrible waste of brave sailors and airmen.

War with world? What is this news here? Most world like Iran. This information is from where? Only america and countries who do what america tell them, are they whole world to you? No my friend tacitus, not whole world sir.

You are thinking Iran's sailors or airman like usa? No sir, this is not correct, not a waste to them.

[Sajjad]

Also, good ship.