Iran produces long range air defence system

[M-ATF]

farsnews:
http://www.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8711230793

Mostafa Mohammad Najar anounnced that iran could to produce a long range air defence system that can detect and fire multi targets simultaneously at long distances.

[wmac]

Are older systems like SA-2 etc able to track and engage multiple targets?

I suspect that this is another multiple-times announced item. I am not aware of such a program (a long range! SA missile)?!

[arri]

Are older systems like SA-2 etc able to track and engage multiple targets?

I suspect that this is another multiple-times announced item. I am not aware of such a program (a long range! SA missile)?!

Iran already produces S-200 with a range of 250km +

[Mirza]

it's better to wait until they publish more information also pics or videos, then announce such strange news,

[wmac]

Iran already produces S-200 with a range of 250km +

You are right. I had seen pictures of these here in the forum earlier. But do S200s track/engage multiple targets? (Wikipedia at least does not mention about such a capability)

90% it is a repeated announcement for the purpose of coming elections.

[arri]

You are right. I had seen pictures of these here in the forum earlier. But do S200s track/engage multiple targets? (Wikipedia at least does not mention about such a capability)

90% it is a repeated announcement for the purpose of coming elections.

Sure they do. They were designed as strategic air defence systems, and early ABM.

[M-ATF]

http://english.farsnews.net/newstext.php?nn=8711231428
Iran Builds Long-Range Anti-Aircraft System

TEHRAN (FNA)- Iran has built a long-range anti-aircraft missile system capable of intercepting and destroying multiple targets simultaneously, Iranian Defense Minister Brigadier General Mostafa Mohammad Najjar announced on Wednesday.


"…(Iran) has built a long-range anti-aircraft system capable of spotting, tracing, intercepting and destroying multiple targets simultaneously," Brigadier General Najjar said on the sidelines of visiting 'Inventions and Innovations Exhibition' here in Tehran.

He also reiterated the home-grown nature of the technology used for manufacturing different ground-to-ground and ground-to-air missiles in Iran, saying that all the materials and parts employed in the country's missile industries are Iranian.

Tehran launched an arms development program during the 1980-88 Iraqi imposed war on Iran, to compensate for a US weapons embargo. Since 1992, Iran has produced its own tanks, armored personnel carriers, missiles and fighter planes.

Yet, Iranian officials have always stressed that the country's military and arms programs serve defensive purposes and should not be perceived as a threat to any other country.

[Noor]

Iran's Defense Ministry says it has built a long-range anti-aircraft system capable of simultaneously striking multiple enemy targets.

Iran's Defense Minister Mostafa Mohammad-Najjar said Wednesday that the new anti-aircraft missile defense system has been domestically produced.

The system is capable of intercepting multiple missiles and aircraft at once, at high altitude and long range.

"This long-range anti-aircraft system can identify and track multiple targets and is capable of simultaneously destroying them from a long distance," Brigadier General Mohammad-Najjar said at the Islamic Revolution's military achievements exhibition.

The Iranian minister added that the country's defense experts have also been successful in the domestic production of basic material for building surface-to-surface and surface-to-air missiles.

The cited capacities of the newly-built Iranian missile calls to mind the Russian S-300 surface-to-air missile defense system.

The advance version of the controversial S-300 system, the S-300PMU1 (SA-20 Gargoyle), can intercept 100 ballistic missiles and aircraft at once, at low and high altitudes within a range of over 150 km.

According to earlier reports, Iran has been negotiating a deal with Russia to obtain the sophisticated defense system. However, neither side has so far issued an official confirmation on the delivery of the S-300 to Iran.

Iran's increased mastery of missile technology comes amid widespread speculation about an Israeli military strike on Iran.

The New York Times cited one of the newly-installed US administration officials speaking on condition of anonymity, as saying last week that "the first big foreign crisis of the Obama presidency is a really nasty confrontation, either because the Israelis strike or because we won't let them."

Earlier in January The Times reported that the Israeli government had sought bunker-busting bombs from former president George W. Bush, and demanded refueling capability and overflight rights over Iraq to take out Iran's main nuclear enrichment plant at Natanz.

The former president, however, deflected the secret Israeli request and revealed that -- as an alternative -- new covert actions intended to sabotage Iran's nuclear program had been authorized.

The West has confronted Iran over its enrichment program, saying it is ultimately meant to build nuclear weapons.

Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) signatory Tehran insists that its nuclear program is aimed at generating electricity.

The UN nuclear watchdog responsible for investigating Iran's nuclear program said in its most recent report that there is no link between the use of nuclear material and the “alleged studies” of weaponization attributed to Iran by the West.

CS/HGH

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=85381&sectionid=351020101

[NightHawk]

Infact…. This anti-aircraft system “SIMILAR” even very similar to Russian SU-300 System was tested successfully and deployed in Iran 6 months ago..!!

Compliments goes to Iranian Scientists and Engineers... as always..!!

[Ayyash]

Pic's --> perhaps at the big defense expo going on right now?

[arri]

According to Janes, Iran obtained 2 S-300PMU-1 from Belarus and a large number of missiles way back in the 1990s and initiated a reverse engineering program. Another report from Janes just last year indicated that Iran was unable to reverse engineer the system and signed another deal with Belarus for more systems plus expertise to restore the earlier units. Whether Iran was able to reverse engineer S-300 system or incorporate the technology into a new AD system remains to be seen.

[@anti#boz@]

Pic's --> perhaps at the big defense expo going on right now?

Defense Minister Mostafa Mohammad-Najjar said this on the same big defense expo

[JEskandari]

Sure they do. They were designed as strategic air defence systems, and early ABM.
No S200 is only capable of tracking one target at a time.

[arri]

No S200 is only capable of tracking one target at a time.

Wrong. The missile itself has an active radar terminal homing seeker, but the system includes several radars operating in C-D-E and F bands for early warning, tracking and acquisition.

[JEskandari]

Wrong. The missile itself has an active radar terminal homing seeker, but the system includes several radars operating in C-D-E and F bands for early warning, tracking and acquisition.
but it only can Engage one Target at A time ,those radar are used only for illumination and target detection not targeting ,only 5N62 and P35/37 can track a target

[arri]

but it only can Engage one Target at A time ,those radar are used only for illumination and target detection not targeting ,only 5N62 and P35/37 can track a target

The missile itself can engage only 1 but it's command control, meaning you fire it off at the target and direct it until it is in its own engagement envelope. But you can fire and guide several missiles at different targets.

[Bosnian]

The missile itself can engage only 1 but it's command control, meaning you fire it off at the target and direct it until it is in its own engagement envelope. But you can fire and guide several missiles at different targets.

Is it possible to integrate GPS with S-200 missile (or other) so that ground control sends target data, and missile be guided on itself to that GPS position until it can find target and use its own radar?

[arri]

Is it possible to integrate GPS with S-200 missile (or other) so that ground control sends target data, and missile be guided on itself to that GPS position until it can find target and use its own radar?

That's what it does but not using GPS. Rather inertial navigation. Radar detects the incoming plane, fire control system calculates where the plane would be when the missile gets there, and fires off the missiles. Radio command then can correct the missiles trajectory if the plane changes direction. The active seeker has a relatively short range and the missile is not very maneuverable, therefor, it is not a big threat to maneuverable aircraft. But the missile can be detonated remotely or using proximity fuse with a fragmentation warhead that can create a kill zone that is a couple of hundred meters wide.

[fulcrum29smt]

The big problems about S-200 system is the lack of maniobrability of it's big missile in order to engage fighters or manouverable targets and the ease with which they can jam S-200 radar because of the extensive knowledge of it by Israel, USA or NATO.

S-200 were used on some conflicts on 80s as Libya and Siria (Bekah Valley conflict) and they were innefective because of both reasons. S-200 weapon system has been compromised even more because Americans since the fall of the Soviet Union have been able to adquire some S-200 systems from ex-Warsaw Pact countries. So they know 100% how it works, how they can jam it, what aerial maneuvers perform in order to that the missile fails, etc ...

Today almost 30 years later is not a system in which any country must rely too much, in my opinion is just useful for parades.

[arri]

The big problems about S-200 system is the lack of maniobrability of it's big missile in order to engage fighters or manouverable targets and the ease with which they can jam S-200 radar because of the extensive knowledge of it by Israel, USA or NATO.

S-200 were used on some conflicts on 80s as Libya and Siria (Bekah Valley conflict) and they were innefective because of both reasons. S-200 weapon system has been compromised even more because Americans since the fall of the Soviet Union have been able to adquire some S-200 systems from ex-Warsaw Pact countries. So they know 100% how it works, how they can jam it, what aerial maneuvers perform in order to that the missile fails, etc ...

Today almost 30 years later is not a system in which any country must rely too much, in my opinion is just useful for parades.

When Iran introduced it's own version, they mentioned that it was heavily upgraded. We don't know the extend of upgrades, but we can assume better ECCM, seeker and possibly a secondary seeker and warhead, typical of iran upgrades on HQ-2, and possibly elements from AIM-54, and what Iran learned by dissecting S-300s it got from Belarus.

However, I agree with you regarding its ineffectiveness against maneuverable targets, but it is still good against, tankers and AWACs that are needed for effective air combat, and air space denial that would be valuable considering geographic size of Iran.

[fulcrum29smt]

However, I agree with you regarding its ineffectiveness against maneuverable targets, but it is still good against, tankers and AWACs that are needed for effective air combat, and air space denial that would be valuable considering geographic size of Iran.

True in case Iran has been able to improve jamming protection. Could be you are right about that Arri.