View Full Version : When The Peace will come to Ballkan's?
COBener
03-19-2009, 06:58 PM
Discuss here...
COBener
03-19-2009, 07:03 PM
In the first option I had a mistake.I hope Moderators would correct this.
Stena
03-19-2009, 07:28 PM
:lol3:
Look at the last one LOL
COBener
03-19-2009, 07:30 PM
:lol3:
Look at the last one LOL
Is an option,you can give your opinions sir :)
COBener
03-19-2009, 07:34 PM
By The Way I voted in the option
When Ethnical Enemity End's...
Stena
03-19-2009, 07:37 PM
When Albanians start to act properly.
Period
BTW Happy new Iranian year :biggrin1:
COBener
03-19-2009, 07:45 PM
When Albanians start to act properly.
Period
BTW Happy new Iranian year :biggrin1:
Albanians/Bosnians/Turks are not Genociders sir :) I know its very afflective for you to remember your History but I don't have nothing to do, Will be good that after thoose Genocides,One Couple of Water .. :)
Stena
03-19-2009, 08:10 PM
Albanians/Bosnians/Turks are not Genociders sir :) I know its very afflective for you to remember your History but I don't have nothing to do, Will be good that after thoose Genocides,One Couple of Water .. :)
:lol3: Who told you that, where you read that... sir ? :lol3:
Cant you see how your post looks like. . .beyond retrieve stupid . . .
Albanians committing Genocides at Serbs, successive, since XV cent.
How many Serbs you have brutally killed during the Ottoman emp. standstill their and your interests ???????
Countless, for almost 500 years you had free hands, bloody hands till your shoulders!!!
How many Serbs you killed during WWI, in Kosovo province, and while we draggle across Albanian mountains from Austrians...
Thousands from your hands...
Millions from hands of those, you are learning YOUR history !
How many Serbs you have killed during WWII
How many Serbs you have killed in 1946 and 1947 ?
How many Serbs you have killed in 1999 ?
How many Serbs you have killed after 1999 ?
I will answer for you
Too much, but I can see, still not enough for you !:frown3:
But of course, you have now uncle Sam and his CNN and BBC, and how can you be Genociders ??? That is stupid, ahh, I almost forgot.... it is Slobo propaganda...
:lol3:
Get lost kid.
And for non Genociders Turks, some Armenian can answer you better than me, but still I can tell you some family stories...
As far as Serbian Muslim consider, I don't know enough to debate...
As far as Serbian consider, you can put that romance, back in your CNN and dinner table ... sir !
TSK66
03-20-2009, 05:07 AM
When Ethnical Enemity End's
And if countries leave each other alone ..
Unkown Refugee!
03-20-2009, 06:14 AM
Never, like rest of world.
Never, like rest of world.
Yeah rest of the world is heaven compare to Balkans.
Gezgin
03-20-2009, 09:54 AM
Maybe we can settle down going to balkans if we will be joined EU in the future.
VitalyVK
03-20-2009, 03:42 PM
when all people will return to their countries, especially kosovo albanians will return to Albania
COBener
03-20-2009, 05:05 PM
when all people will return to their countries, especially kosovo albanians will return to Albania
And Serbs in Kosova returns to Serbia,good idea sir :) Kosova belongs Kosovars indeed.
Kosovo Knight
03-20-2009, 05:37 PM
Just to explain what are Kosovars. I have woted for second, the problems on Balkans were only whan big powers were thinking about it. Like UK, they have problems in Northen Irland for 100 years, bu they are teaching us, "primitive" Balkan nations.
COBener
03-20-2009, 06:20 PM
Just to explain what are Kosovars. I have woted for second, the problems on Balkans were only whan big powers were thinking about it. Like UK, they have problems in Northen Irland for 100 years, bu they are teaching us, "primitive" Balkan nations.
Kosovars are the peoples who lives in Kosova's Territory... No Ethnical divides,Im a Kosovar Turk,but I'm registered as KOSOVAR in my identify card. Serbs who had a Kosova documents,also are Kosovars...
Kosovo Knight
03-20-2009, 07:41 PM
So Kosovar is not nationality, its determinate for a people who lives on territory of Kosovo. Anyway, I think that the main problem on Balkans is the economical situation, like in the 1930's Germany, so politics can easy turn peoples against each others.
lastsamurai
03-21-2009, 06:02 AM
Peace?? When in Balkan will be created Ethnical Map!!
lastsamurai
03-21-2009, 06:05 AM
:lol3:
Look at the last one LOL
Nothing funny at all!!...Serbs started all wars in Ex-Yugo-lala which mean all wars in Balkan.Starting first war with Slovenia and finishing with..(who knows..maybe the last war was Kosovo)...
Stena
03-21-2009, 06:26 AM
Nothing funny at all!!...Serbs started all wars in Ex-Yugo-lala which mean all wars in Balkan.Starting first war with Slovenia and finishing with..(who knows..maybe the last war was Kosovo)...
:wub3:
No last, next, last would be with Japan :teacher3:
lastsamurai
03-21-2009, 06:32 AM
:wub3:
No last, next, last would be with Japan :teacher3:
If there r still plans for "Serbia to Tokyo" ....then i totally agree with u
Stena
03-21-2009, 06:41 AM
If there r still plans for "Serbia to Tokyo" ....then i totally agree with u
Yes, we planing chemical warfare, like Ferizaj attack 1997 :biggrin1: (I hope you know what I am writing about) and also we planing biological warfare, like Ferizaj attack 1998 :biggrin1: (can you remember ? ), but this time we are going Torino - Toulouse - A Coruna - Norfolk (USA) - Milvoky (USA) - Hawaii-Tokyo . . .
We pick easy rout, we dont wanna mess with Russia .... brrrr
lastsamurai
03-21-2009, 06:53 AM
well ..good for Serbia then(An open-mind country with visionary plans)..Just hope that u will win at last an single war!!
btw..whats with Ferizaj attack?? What should i remember?...(I'm not Albanian from Kosovo)
Stena
03-21-2009, 07:07 AM
well ..good for Serbia then(An open-mind country with visionary plans)..Just hope that u will win at last an single war!!
thank you, we must to preserve our tradition, I know :biggrin1:
btw..whats with Ferizaj attack?? What should i remember?...(I'm not Albanian from Kosovo)
You are first one Albanian, thats is not in the Kosovo, I ever met...
Wow, what a feeling :welcome3:
And for attacks, someone (probably US- OEBS agent) successfully spread a word, how army give vent to some poison chemical gas into the air, in the part of the city where Albanians live, and that way, set ablaze relatively unruffled citizens, and new problems to a police. . .
Damn all Albanians in the city believed in that, and yet none died from poison . . .
Same story in ’98, but this time army reputedly unleash into city water piping, some kind of bacteria which attacking only Albanians . . . LOOOL man LOOOL
That’s some heavy propaganda, not Slobo dancing !
Slobo was a little kid, versus to western media and agents…
COBener
03-21-2009, 11:29 PM
:lol3: Who told you that, where you read that... sir ? :lol3:
Cant you see how your post looks like. . .beyond retrieve stupid . . .
Albanians committing Genocides at Serbs, successive, since XV cent.
How many Serbs you have brutally killed during the Ottoman emp. standstill their and your interests ???????
Countless, for almost 500 years you had free hands, bloody hands till your shoulders!!!
How many Serbs you killed during WWI, in Kosovo province, and while we draggle across Albanian mountains from Austrians...
Thousands from your hands...
Millions from hands of those, you are learning YOUR history !
How many Serbs you have killed during WWII
How many Serbs you have killed in 1946 and 1947 ?
How many Serbs you have killed in 1999 ?
How many Serbs you have killed after 1999 ?
I will answer for you
Too much, but I can see, still not enough for you !:frown3:
But of course, you have now uncle Sam and his CNN and BBC, and how can you be Genociders ??? That is stupid, ahh, I almost forgot.... it is Slobo propaganda...
:lol3:
Get lost kid.
And for non Genociders Turks, some Armenian can answer you better than me, but still I can tell you some family stories...
As far as Serbian Muslim consider, I don't know enough to debate...
As far as Serbian consider, you can put that romance, back in your CNN and dinner table ... sir !
We didn't have an army and we did a genocide :D What an interesting propaganda.I believe that after this you will say "You Killed Serbs with Stones" :D but don't try to protect Serbs,becouse they are not protectable. In anytime we didn't think about "Ethnical Cleansing" (Absolutely I). But you,with all Jugoslavian Army,Attacked Civilians,with CHETNIKS,who massacred the peoples and childrens,and who you are to protect Serbs...
If we kill 1 Serb..Serbs killed 100 Muslims...This is the report. We have not army,you are killing us with Tanks,Helicopters :) You try to establish Krajina's Serbs in Kosovo but don't forget,the place you cannot go,doesn't belongs to you. Albanians Cannot Go in Serbia from fear,absolutely Serbs too... So I say again The place you Cannot Go,doesn't belongs to you Include North Mitrovica which is today 99% populated by Serbs...
And Today,go to cry at your NATIONAL HERO'S Tomb for Kosova. And say " Oh Majko Serbia Milos,We losed Kosova "
gisse
03-22-2009, 12:07 AM
If we kill 1 Serb..Serbs killed 100 Muslims...This is the report.
Can you show that report or this is Gonzo information service again?:huh_oh3:
gisse
03-22-2009, 12:19 AM
We didn't have an army and we did a genocide :D What an interesting propaganda.
If you check when you have done that you had army in that time. Under Ottoman Albanians where firs to help them in creating army border and trowing out Serbs from Kosovo. WW1 you where organized by Austria, again killing Serbs. WW2 organized by Germany, again killing Serbs. During Tito government, lot of Albanians come from Albania to Kosovo because they didn't have what to eat in Albania. During Tito government Albanians made couple mass protests which ended with lot of dead people. Do you need to send you link about humiliation of Serbs on Kosovo during that period? What about killings in JNA from side of Albanians?
Stena
03-22-2009, 05:54 AM
We didn't have an army and we did a genocide :D What an interesting propaganda.I believe that after this you will say "You Killed Serbs with Stones" :D but don't try to protect Serbs,becouse they are not protectable. In anytime we didn't think about "Ethnical Cleansing" (Absolutely I). But you,with all Jugoslavian Army,Attacked Civilians,with CHETNIKS,who massacred the peoples and childrens,and who you are to protect Serbs...
If we kill 1 Serb..Serbs killed 100 Muslims...This is the report. We have not army,you are killing us with Tanks,Helicopters :) You try to establish Krajina's Serbs in Kosovo but don't forget,the place you cannot go,doesn't belongs to you. Albanians Cannot Go in Serbia from fear,absolutely Serbs too... So I say again The place you Cannot Go,doesn't belongs to you Include North Mitrovica which is today 99% populated by Serbs...
And Today,go to cry at your NATIONAL HERO'S Tomb for Kosova. And say " Oh Majko Serbia Milos,We losed Kosova "
First, you didn't have army, and you still don't have it, so you committed and committing genocide, (or something with different name, but same effect) with your terrorist, mafia, and other radical people, which you have soo plenty, that you don't need army for that....
The point is, you killing innocent people, Serbs, exile them from their lands, since you came in Kosovo in 1043, and you never take responsibility for that ....
If you are, of the one to which matters that word for that should be genocide, or killing, or evil, then . . .
COBener
03-22-2009, 01:45 PM
First, you didn't have army, and you still don't have it, so you committed and committing genocide, (or something with different name, but same effect) with your terrorist, mafia, and other radical people, which you have soo plenty, that you don't need army for that....
The point is, you killing innocent people, Serbs, exile them from their lands, since you came in Kosovo in 1043, and you never take responsibility for that ....
If you are, of the one to which matters that word for that should be genocide, or killing, or evil, then . . .
Haha the mafia and other crimes is not genocide,ok who did this is Guilty but this is not genocide.. You killed with tanks,helicopters.This is the genocide ... And we have very radical (nationalist) people in Kosova,but what with Serbia ? Serbia had bigger population than kosova,and you have more Nationalist than Us. Please Explain me the word of Milosevic .. " Wherever Live One Serb,That Place Is Called Serbia"
.... ???
COBener
03-22-2009, 01:46 PM
Can you show that report or this is Gonzo information service again?:huh_oh3:
Look how many Muslims (Albanian,Bosnian,Turk) Died in Kosovo and Bosnia,and Look how many Serbs died :) I think you have enough IQ to understand that Report...
Kosovo Knight
03-22-2009, 03:51 PM
Yea, many Albanian,Bosnian,Turks were killed by KLA becouse they were loyal to authorities.
TSK66
03-22-2009, 04:38 PM
Is kosovo or its people planning to re-unite with Albania or not ? or does it stays this way ?
lastsamurai
03-22-2009, 04:44 PM
Is kosovo or its people planning to re-unite with Albania or not ? or does it stays this way ?
No need for plans...Albanians from both sides will decide for the re-unification....If it will be hard for Rep.of Kosovo in international issues(if Russia will block Kosovo everywhere) the salvation will be the federation with Albania(No one can stop an republic to be united to another..when the majority of population wants it)...Under Albania's border,Kosovo will be forever safe!! but....let leave things to time!!
Kosovo Knight
03-22-2009, 04:53 PM
the EU and USA doesn't wan to unite Kosovo and Albania, so that idea won't pass without their support.
Yea, many Albanian,Bosnian,Turks were killed by KLA becouse they were loyal to authorities.
And they all deserved it, who ever did it was punished with death.
You ppl spreading propaganda dont have a fcukin clue what innocent civilians had to go thru Belgrads regime. There was not a day an Albanian in my hometown got beaten to death or paralyzed for life. Why? I guess all the filthy cops Serbia didnt wanted on their streets where all stationed in our country to make our life miserably.
the EU and USA doesn't wan to unite Kosovo and Albania, so that idea won't pass without their support.
Actually, if that was to happend they wouldnt give a sh!t. They know we wont turn our back to them.
COBener
03-22-2009, 06:31 PM
Is kosovo or its people planning to re-unite with Albania or not ? or does it stays this way ?
Some of Nationalist consider that,but this is something impossible. It's good to have two albanian states in UN (but we need to join there). I'm not interested in uniting Albania-Kosova. Becouse Albanians from there are different than Kosovars.
COBener
03-22-2009, 06:32 PM
the EU and USA doesn't wan to unite Kosovo and Albania, so that idea won't pass without their support.
No Doubt that This Idea is Impossible.
gisse
03-23-2009, 01:48 AM
Look how many Muslims (Albanian,Bosnian,Turk) Died in Kosovo and Bosnia,and Look how many Serbs died :) I think you have enough IQ to understand that Report...
And again only b****** and no real source.
Please, show me at least one page where you have found data.
gisse
03-23-2009, 01:50 AM
And they all deserved it, who ever did it was punished with death.
As i understand you support killing Albanians which was loyal to official government?
gisse
03-23-2009, 01:52 AM
Actually, if that was to happend they wouldnt give a sh!t. They know we wont turn our back to them.
Like you didn't to Ottomans, Italians, Germans, Russians, China?
If they let you unite i don't see how will that work. Kosovo is unrecognized state, can't work with out full support of EU and USA. I don't see way how will that work?
VitalyVK
03-23-2009, 01:56 AM
one more brilliant balkans thread with barking independant guys
gisse
03-23-2009, 01:59 AM
You ppl spreading propaganda dont have a fcukin clue what innocent civilians had to go thru Belgrads regime. There was not a day an Albanian in my hometown got beaten to death or paralyzed for life. Why? I guess all the filthy cops Serbia didnt wanted on their streets where all stationed in our country to make our life miserably.
Again please show me some valid document. All that what you sad is only your words.
gisse
03-23-2009, 02:01 AM
one more brilliant balkans thread with barking independant guys
:lol3:
Well, all of them talk a lot but no one of them don't show an real data. :huh_oh3:
Kosovo Knight
03-23-2009, 09:09 AM
And they all deserved it, who ever did it was punished with death.
You ppl spreading propaganda dont have a fcukin clue what innocent civilians had to go thru Belgrads regime. There was not a day an Albanian in my hometown got beaten to death or paralyzed for life. Why? I guess all the filthy cops Serbia didnt wanted on their streets where all stationed in our country to make our life miserably.
Just explain me why there are 1500 Albanians in Belgrade? How Miloević didn't executed them?:mad1:
gisse
03-23-2009, 09:28 AM
Just explain me why there are 1500 Albanians in Belgrade? How Miloević didn't executed them?:mad1:
Only 1500 live in Belgrade? I think more of them.
Relikt
03-23-2009, 09:47 AM
Nothing funny at all!!...Serbs started all wars in Ex-Yugo-lala which mean all wars in Balkan.Starting first war with Slovenia and finishing with..(who knows..maybe the last war was Kosovo)...
:roflmao3: Slovenia :lol3:
You need to check your history book. It was Yugoslavia versus Slovenia. Yugoslavian army in that time was under command of Serbian and Croatian generals. Both sides werent eager to stop Slovenian secession. Why?
There isnt much Serbs in Slovenia. So Serbian politicians werent interested with Slovenia. Also without Slovenia Serbian vote would be much stronger in federal senate. Croatians need Slovenian secesion because they thought their secesion would be much easier.
That was what was happen in Slovenia. Serbia started war in Slovenia is BS propaganda created after that event when everything wrong on Balkan was labeled as Serbian fault.
Did any of you guys saw today's Security Council debate between Kosovar FM Hyseni and Serbian President Tadiq? I bet they will never show it on Serbian television how he owned Mr. Tadiq :lol3:
COBener
03-23-2009, 05:17 PM
And again only b****** and no real source.
Please, show me at least one page where you have found data.
15.000 Civilians are BRUTALY Killed By Serbian Forces. (2.400 KLA Forces)
5.000 is missing from 1998-99 (absolutely Dead)
800.000 Albanians forced to let Kosovo
20.000 Girls are Raped by Serbian Forces
3.000 Albanians who after war taked by Serbian Forces and,founded in Mass grave in Serbia.
200.000 Houses Burned By Serbian Forces
http://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lufta_e_Kosovės
Bosnia War
31.270 Bosnian Soldier Killed by Serbs.
32.723 Bosnian Civilians Killed by Serbs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnia_war
Here is a source for you.!
VitalyVK
03-24-2009, 02:11 AM
15.000 Civilians are BRUTALY Killed By Serbian Forces. (2.400 KLA Forces)
5.000 is missing from 1998-99 (absolutely Dead)
800.000 Albanians forced to let Kosovo
20.000 Girls are Raped by Serbian Forces
3.000 Albanians who after war taked by Serbian Forces and,founded in Mass grave in Serbia.
200.000 Houses Burned By Serbian Forces
http://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lufta_e_Kosovės
Bosnia War
31.270 Bosnian Soldier Killed by Serbs.
32.723 Bosnian Civilians Killed by Serbs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnia_war
Here is a source for you.!
Wiki... source... :roflmao3:
gisse
03-24-2009, 02:30 AM
15.000 Civilians are BRUTALY Killed By Serbian Forces. (2.400 KLA Forces)
5.000 is missing from 1998-99 (absolutely Dead)
800.000 Albanians forced to let Kosovo
20.000 Girls are Raped by Serbian Forces
3.000 Albanians who after war taked by Serbian Forces and,founded in Mass grave in Serbia.
200.000 Houses Burned By Serbian Forces
http://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lufta_e_Kosovės
Bosnia War
31.270 Bosnian Soldier Killed by Serbs.
32.723 Bosnian Civilians Killed by Serbs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnia_war
Here is a source for you.!
Do you want me to change your source?
Please some real source like International Red Cross or something similar.
Relikt
03-24-2009, 02:54 AM
http://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lufta_e_Kosovės (http://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lufta_e_Kosov%C3%ABs)
I can put Serbian source were they say total opposite. Serbian/Albanian sources are biased.
COBener
03-24-2009, 06:35 AM
You wanted a source.Here is a source for you,if you don't believe to me.
gisse
03-24-2009, 07:00 AM
You wanted a source.Here is a source for you,if you don't believe to me.
Wikipedia is not source, wikipedia is public and everyone can write what they want. I can go and change all your data on that page. Wikipedia can be used just like something for orientation but it is not all correct and in our case Serbs-Albanians-Bosnian-Croatian it is not accurate because everyone change what they want and how they want.
Balija
03-26-2009, 08:52 AM
When Serbia accepts the Borders of countries, and the Serbs start to integrate, instead of dreaming Great-Serbia. And Serbia demands honestly reconsiliation.
Everything else is war sure, sooner or later.
gisse
03-26-2009, 08:59 AM
When Serbia accepts the Borders of countries, and the Serbs start to integrate, instead of dreaming Great-Serbia. And Serbia demands honestly reconsiliation.
Everything else is war sure, sooner or later.
Read text first.
Serbian accepted borders but you see today Albanians don't accept borders.
lastsamurai
05-01-2009, 06:32 AM
Read text first.
Serbian accepted borders but you see today Albanians don't accept borders.
which borders?
gisse
05-01-2009, 11:42 AM
which borders?
Of republic.
lastsamurai
05-01-2009, 04:05 PM
Of republic.
With other words?
skhara
05-01-2009, 05:40 PM
Albanians/Bosnians/Turks
:roflmao3:
gisse
05-02-2009, 02:05 AM
With other words?
You are telling that biggest problem are Serbs which don't want to accept borders. When i tell you that Serbs accepted borders you ask what borders. Borders of Republics. If you want to tell me that "border" with Kosovo exist then i need to tell you something difference. It exist until UN have mandate there.
Kosovo's borders are protected and who ever wants to challange America can make their day.
gisse
05-04-2009, 09:41 AM
Kosovo's borders are protected and who ever wants to challange America can make their day.
Kosovo borders are protected with UN Resolution 1244 and USA is breaking all that.
Kosovo borders are protected with UN Resolution 1244 and USA is breaking all that.
UN? :lol3: sure thing pal.
gisse
05-04-2009, 11:03 PM
UN? :lol3: sure thing pal.
You can laugh how much you want but it is like that. There is not enough solders for some serious war.
DeepEyes
05-14-2009, 08:28 AM
Heheheh... look the last one. BAH, Poll is surely did of some Albanian PROPAGANDIST.
I say NEVER.
Kosovo.After UN forces come to Kosovo in summer 1999. Albanian terrorists then tried to destabilise Centrall Serbia in, mostly in towns of Presevo, Bujanovac, Medvedja... but scumbags couldn't do nothing without USA support.
So for Albanian Nationalists, nothing is still solved, they will attack, again, and again, and again... as soon as they "collect their balls".
Bosnia. In Bosnia today Muslim-Croat federal unit (entity) want to erase Serb entity of Republika Srpska and by that to erase Dayton Peace Agreement... so as they couldn't do that legaly, it's only metter of time when Muslims and Croats try to force...
Macedonia. This country is deeply divided between Macedonians and Albanian minority... wander when Macedonia's Albanians will repeat war form 2001.?
..... But nothing without Germany and USA. Germany as traditional enemy of Serbia, and paranoid USA that sees Rusia on every place where Serbia is written.:lol3:
skhara
05-14-2009, 05:03 PM
..... But nothing without Germany and USA. Germany as traditional enemy of Serbia,
I have to wonder just what Serbia did to Germany to drive the historic hostility towards said hostility.
COBener
05-14-2009, 05:08 PM
Heheheh... look the last one. BAH, Poll is surely did of some Albanian PROPAGANDIST.
I'm not albanian at first,and not propagandist...
COBener
05-14-2009, 05:16 PM
Kosovo.After UN forces come to Kosovo in summer 1999. Albanian terrorists then tried to destabilise Centrall Serbia in, mostly in towns of Presevo, Bujanovac, Medvedja... but scumbags couldn't do nothing without USA support.
What before UN forces ? And we saw what are you doing for kosovo,if Russia will not be with you,we were at UN today,Pray to Russia ... Look and you didn't do nothing without Russia Support.
So for Albanian Nationalists, nothing is still solved, they will attack, again, and again, and again... as soon as they "collect their balls".
Same with Serb nationalist,with Milosevic Sadist Party...
Bosnia. In Bosnia today Muslim-Croat federal unit (entity) want to erase Serb entity of Republika Srpska and by that to erase Dayton Peace Agreement... so as they couldn't do that legaly, it's only metter of time when Muslims and Croats try to force...
It's better to divide Bosnia in two states,into Republika Srpska,and Bosnia Hercegovina (Muslim-Croat federal unit)...
Macedonia. This country is deeply divided between Macedonians and Albanian minority... wander when Macedonia's Albanians will repeat war form 2001.?
They not need a war.Around of 30-35% of Macedonia is Albanian...
gisse
05-14-2009, 10:52 PM
What before UN forces ? And we saw what are you doing for kosovo,if Russia will not be with you,we were at UN today,Pray to Russia ... Look and you didn't do nothing without Russia Support.
Before UN we had verification mission which was consisted of largest number of foreign agents ever in one place.
And before that we had around 6 years of negotiation (from 1993) about Kosovo autonomy which was rejected by Albanians which wanted only independence. During negotiation they started with terrorist attacks all over Kosovo.
But after all that.....Albanians started to attack around Kosovo even when they had almost "independent" state under USA control.
Same with Serb nationalist,with Milosevic Sadist Party...
SPS is not sadist party, there is more radical parties. Even those more radical parties want Serbs to live in one state, nothing more or less.
It's better to divide Bosnia in two states,into Republika Srpska,and Bosnia Hercegovina (Muslim-Croat federal unit)...
Tell that to USA which is dividing Serbia.
They not need a war.Around of 30-35% of Macedonia is Albanian...
They had war in 2001. What for they needed that war?
DeepEyes
05-15-2009, 06:21 AM
I have to wonder just what Serbia did to Germany to drive the historic hostility towards said hostility.
Since 1908. Serbia always messed up German & Austro-Hungarian plans of conquiring Balkans, and drive them to disaster...:lol3:
1. Serbia won economic ( embargo) war declared by Austro-Hungary in 1908 ( After annex of Bosnia). First step against Serbia.
2. First victory of allies in WWI was won by Serbia, by driving out inviding forces.
3. Serbia refuses Germany peace offer in 1914.
4. Serbian army chrushed Central powers forces on Salonikan Front in 1918. and which lead to quicker end of the WWI war.
5. Serbian people reject allready signed alliance with Axis in 1940, wich lead to German invasion on Yugoslavia, and postpone German invasion on Russia.
6. First liberated area in WWII were in Serbia.
7. Serbia ended creation of German country in today's northen Serbia. So called Volksdeutche in 1945.
Sorry fo off topic.
DeepEyes
05-15-2009, 06:31 AM
Same with Serb nationalist,with Milosevic Sadist Party...
Hahah, funny. :lol3:
So It's not over for Albanian Nationalists too? :hellobaby3:
Why did you hide that? You could put that into the pool too. Than I wouldn't called you Albanian Propagandist (mean, that you do Propaganda jobs for Albanians).
Albanian nationalist? Wtf are you Serbs, liberals?
gisse
05-18-2009, 11:35 AM
Albanian nationalist? Wtf are you Serbs, liberals?
When somebody attack us then we are extrema nationalists.
He wanted to say that upper pool is little bit Albanian hand work.If there is also "When Albanians stop with wars" than that all would be OK.
When somebody attack us then we are extrema nationalists.
He wanted to say that upper pool is little bit Albanian hand work.If there is also "When Albanians stop with wars" than that all would be OK.
I dont give a fcuk what you guys become, just stay away from Kosovo.
gisse
05-19-2009, 09:52 AM
I dont give a fcuk what you guys become, just stay away from Kosovo.
You forgot to add half of Macedonia, Greece and Preshevo valley :teacher3:
Do you want part of Germany or France? :roflmao3:
Is long as they dont get treated as 2nd class citizens, none will start a thing. But I have a feeling Serbs in Bosnia will secede.
gisse
05-19-2009, 12:30 PM
Is long as they dont get treated as 2nd class citizens, none will start a thing. But I have a feeling Serbs in Bosnia will secede.
It is possible due to pressure from UN administration on Serbian entity.
Some good news for Balkan.
Comoros recognizes Kosovo
http://www.newkosovareport.com/images/stories/flags/comoros.jpg
The Foreign Ministry of the Union of the Comoros stated in a letter dated May 14 that the "Union of Comoros has the pleasure to nofity it has recognized the Republic of Kosovo as an independent and sovereign country and offers cooperation in the diplomatic relations."
Behgjet Pacolli, leader of the New Kosovo Alliance (AKR), stopped in the Comoros last week as part of his African tour to lobby for further recognition of Kosovo. He was passed a Note Verbale confirming recognition by his hosts, the President and Foreign Minister, which he has since forwarded to the Kosovar Foreign Ministry.
"The Union of Comoros has decided to recognize Kosovo as a sovereign and independent state," said Pacolli.
Mr. Pacolli explained that the recognition will be confirmed by Foreign Ministry of Kosovo as well.
The Comoros, an island country located off the southeast coast of Africa in the Mozambique Channel, is the 59th country to recognize the Republic of Kosovo as an independent and sovereign country.
http://www.newkosovareport.com/200905181776/Politics/Comores-recognizes-Kosovo.html
gisse
05-19-2009, 01:26 PM
And where is that country?
gisse
05-19-2009, 01:27 PM
Oh i see :D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comoros
You should look up this one also :lol3:
Bahrain recognizes Kosovo
http://www.newkosovareport.com/images/stories/flags/bahrain.jpg
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Kingdom of Bahrain announced today that it recognizes the Republic of Kosovo. Bahrain becomes the 60th UN Member state to recognize Kosovo as an independent and sovereign state.
"Taking into account the religious and cultural ties between the peoples of the two countries and out of respect for the desire for independence of the Kosovar people, the kingdom of Bahrain announces that it recognises the republic of Kosovo as an independent country," said a ministry statement carried by the official BNA news agency.
The Foreign Ministry statement wished the Government and people of Kosovo "...stability, progress and prosperity."
Bahrain is an island country located in the Persian Gulf between Saudi Arabia and Qatar.
http://www.newkosovareport.com/images/stories/flags/bahrain.jpg
gisse
05-20-2009, 02:21 AM
So many states which live in illusion..... and later they will again go to their parliaments to drove back that recognition...
Cheer up, its good for Balkans stability.
gisse
05-20-2009, 04:02 AM
Cheer up, its good for Balkans stability.
How is good for Balkan stability making independent state from part of another independent state?
By your opinion would that be good if for example Schodra (Skadar) separate from Albania?
COBener
05-20-2009, 05:00 AM
The number of recognitions is growing,Vuk told that "No one will recognize Kosova" but,he lied.Becouse too much states in a little time period recognized Kosova.I hope more recognitions.
gisse
05-20-2009, 05:55 AM
The number of recognitions is growing,Vuk told that "No one will recognize Kosova" but,he lied.Becouse too much states in a little time period recognized Kosova.I hope more recognitions.
He lied same as Tachi.
How is good for Balkan stability making independent state from part of another independent state?
By your opinion would that be good if for example Schodra (Skadar) separate from Albania?
Dude, Kosovo was never part of Serbia. Even if you guys has a tendence to lie to the world, it doesnt make a lie or a myth true.
gisse
05-20-2009, 08:54 AM
Dude, Kosovo was never part of Serbia. Even if you guys has a tendence to lie to the world, it doesnt make a lie or a myth true.
Can you please look in your old school books. It is possible that you will be surprised.
I can write a book, it doesnt make it true.
gisse
05-20-2009, 09:02 AM
I cant write a book, it doesnt make it true.
Albania don't exists on maps also. It was liberated in 1913 from Turks by Serbs, Montenegrin and Greeks and created independent by Italy.
And Skender Beg is half Serb half Italian.
Albania don't exists on maps also. It was liberated in 1913 from Turks by Serbs, Montenegrin and Greeks and created independent by Italy.
And Skender Beg is half Serb half Italian.
Funny I recall Serbs tried to conquer all Albanian lands and wipe us out 90 years later.
He was? Why dont you guys put a statue of him in Belgrade. You say he was half Serb, what.. wasnt he Serb enough?
gisse
05-20-2009, 09:19 AM
Funny I recall Serbs tried to conquer all Albanian lands and wipe us out 90 years later.
He was? Why dont you guys put a statue of him in Belgrade. You say he was half Serb, what.. wasnt he Serb enough?
There is not enough places where to put statue, we have to much heroes so we let this one to you.
Albanian lands was under rule of Ottomans and after Serbian "conquest" you got independent state.
There is not enough places where to put statue, we have to much heroes so we let this one to you.
Albanian lands was under rule of Ottomans and after Serbian "conquest" you got independent state.
Good you came to sense he's not Serb in any way.
Yeah, thats why you and all others waited 600 years for them to leave. They got weak and left, including Albanians wanted them out. You had no victory against Ottoman Empire.
Even today, Turkey would fcuk Serbia so much NATO bombings -99 would look like a cartoon show so show some respect, they ruled Balkan more then anyone els.
gisse
05-20-2009, 09:30 AM
Good you came to sense he's not Serb in any way.
Yeah, thats why you and all others waited 600 years for them to leave. They got weak and left, including Albanians wanted them out. You had no victory against Ottoman Empire.
Even today, Turkey would fcuk Serbia so much NATO bombings -99 would look like a cartoon show so show some respect, they ruled Balkan more then anyone els.
I see that you read only your posts in treads. You can look at Relikts post where he listed battles.
Yes, Serbs waited almost half hour before started to fight with them :D
And only brave Albanians was fighting for their own freedom and was liberated by Serbs. :D
I see that you know all historical facts. can you tell me from what time all this lands are "Albanian lands" and when was created Kosovo pasaluk?
I see that you read only your posts in treads. You can look at Relikts post where he listed battles.
Yes, Serbs waited almost half hour before started to fight with them :D
And only brave Albanians was fighting for their own freedom and was liberated by Serbs. :D
I see that you know all historical facts. can you tell me from what time all this lands are "Albanian lands" and when was created Kosovo pasaluk?
You know, Im not much into history. You know why, its HISTORY. It will never come back.
gisse
05-20-2009, 09:36 AM
You know, Im not much into history. You know why, its HISTORY. It will never come back.
and why then you ask for part of independent state?
DeepEyes
05-20-2009, 10:14 AM
Dude, Kosovo was never part of Serbia.
WTF?!:confused1:
Why bullcrapping?
And you are off topic... Question were Peace on the balkans..
and why then you ask for part of independent state?
Were you sleeping in the 90s? I have relatives who got killed by Serbian security forces for trying to stop them looting his home. They later burned him with the house.
DeepEyes
05-20-2009, 10:54 AM
Were you sleeping in the 90s? I have relatives who got killed by Serbian security forces for trying to stop them looting his home. They later burned him with the house.
O boy...!!! :lol3: Facts, KDF, only facts... links, proofs, pictures...
Everything else is just flaming...
"I have a friend, who had relatives, who's uncle, where..." stories avoid here...
Kosovo Knight
05-20-2009, 11:15 AM
You had no victory against Ottoman Empire.
And what about the
Were you sleeping in the 90s? I have relatives who got killed by Serbian security forces for trying to stop them looting his home. They later burned him with the house.
Man, if there is a nation on Balkans which has
suffer during the 90s, that will be Serbs. My friends father was killed on Kosovo by UCK, and since 2006 he couldn't buried becouse his body was in a mass grave.
gisse
05-20-2009, 11:32 AM
Were you sleeping in the 90s? I have relatives who got killed by Serbian security forces for trying to stop them looting his home. They later burned him with the house.
and that is reason to separate part of somebody state? How many black guys was killed in USA and nobody don't even ask about that?
And yes....... how many police officers was killed from ambushes and how many Serbs was killed before 90s? Where you sleeping?
The GodFather
06-13-2009, 11:03 AM
Serbia ally with ME powers. That will improve relations in Europe.
DeepEyes
06-13-2009, 07:40 PM
Serbia ally with ME powers. That will improve relations in Europe.
?! ME Powers...? :confused2:
gisse
06-14-2009, 12:44 AM
ME did you meant Meddle East?
Larezzo
06-14-2009, 03:27 AM
Why din't you serbs fight for kosovo if you want it so bad?
Kosovo Knight
06-14-2009, 04:28 AM
Because wen we fought with Albanian separatist paramilitary in 1998 and 1999, NATO has started heavy air strikes which have destroy our industry, economy, infrastructure, a lot of civilians have been killed, so we had to agree to the NATO ultimatum that our army, police and administration leave Kosovo and Metohija, to be replaced by UNMIK and KFOR, but the sovereignty of Serbia over Kosovo was guaranteed fith the UN resolution 1244.
DeepEyes
06-14-2009, 08:41 AM
Why didn't you serbs fight for kosovo if you want it so bad?
We fought for 78 days in 1999. with NATO. They couldn't invide Kosovo. Yugoslav army failed to protect civilians against NATO air strikes...
But we "won" UN Resolution 1244 ( Kosovo and Metohija is part of Yugoslavia-Serbia )...
You mean to attack UN forces on Kosovo in 2008?
No man we're using now diplomacy, democracy and international law...
BTW, unilateral independence of Kosovo violate: Resolution 1244 UN Security Concil, UN Charter, Dayton Agreement ( that bring peace in Biosnia)...
COBener
06-14-2009, 03:18 PM
Attacking civilians,and forcing them out is only GENOCIDE,not fighting...Same in Bosnia.
UNSC Resoulution 1244 is real,Kosova was part of Jugoslavia.Tito was big people,when he died look what happened..Jugoslavia withdrawed with Serb/CIA insist.
And another fact is that :
Slovenia
Croatia
Macedonia
Montenegro
Recognized us... Only Serbia and Bosnia Hercegovina didn't recognized,becouse of Serb majority...
Ex-Jugoslavians Accept Republic of Kosova,without Serbs...
COBener
06-14-2009, 03:20 PM
Because wen we fought with Albanian separatist paramilitary in 1998 and 1999, NATO has started heavy air strikes which have destroy our industry, economy, infrastructure, a lot of civilians have been killed, so we had to agree to the NATO ultimatum that our army, police and administration leave Kosovo and Metohija, to be replaced by UNMIK and KFOR, but the sovereignty of Serbia over Kosovo was guaranteed fith the UN resolution 1244.
And Why NATO wanted you to go out from Kosovo ? Why they joined this fighting ?
The GodFather
06-14-2009, 04:04 PM
?! ME Powers...? :confused2:Middle East powers. Serbia needs good Syria, Lebanese & Iranian allies with Pakistanis since they say Serbs really are Pakistanis. Russia left Serbia out in the cold when Serbia was at war in 1999. Plus, Russia is only a military power. The Middle East has an assortment of powers.
gisse
06-14-2009, 11:12 PM
Attacking civilians,and forcing them out is only GENOCIDE,not fighting...Same in Bosnia.
UNSC Resoulution 1244 is real,Kosova was part of Jugoslavia.Tito was big people,when he died look what happened..Jugoslavia withdrawed with Serb/CIA insist.
And another fact is that :
Slovenia
Croatia
Macedonia
Montenegro
Recognized us... Only Serbia and Bosnia Hercegovina didn't recognized,becouse of Serb majority...
Ex-Jugoslavians Accept Republic of Kosova,without Serbs...
I sad before an i repeat again. During fights in Kosovo didn't die more then 5000 people all together with KLA fighters, Serbs and other nationality so about some genocide there is no word. You are alive?How is then that genocide?If that was genocide you would be dead not just placed in some hand book like possible KLA fighter and left to move freely.
And about Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia we where talking earlier. In all countries Serbs made "ethnic" cleaning and simply gone from territories where they lived under pressure of "democratic" boots.
About Yugoslavia. Did Serbs want to separate from Yugoslavia or to maintain it?
gisse
06-14-2009, 11:20 PM
Middle East powers. Serbia needs good Syria, Lebanese & Iranian allies with Pakistanis since they say Serbs really are Pakistanis. Russia left Serbia out in the cold when Serbia was at war in 1999. Plus, Russia is only a military power. The Middle East has an assortment of powers.
Don't know for sure but Serbia had good relationship with Iraq and think that even today have. Almost all military infrastructure build in Iraq was made by Yugoslavian. Almost all country which are in Non-Aligned Movement have good relationship with Serbia.
If you think on military support and cooperation everything is open for any one who want to cooperate.
Russia is not "only a military power". She have VERY important thing for Serbs. Big NO in Security Council. :)
gisse
06-14-2009, 11:24 PM
And Why NATO wanted you to go out from Kosovo ? Why they joined this fighting ?
Boundstil and control of Serbia. If you are not informed go and get informed.Don't ask same question over and over again.
In Military part of agreement in Rambue in part B was written that NATO troops can go all over Serbia, make base where they want on cost of Serbia and all what they need Serbia need to give them. That is occupation.
Nato need Serbia because Serbia is important strategically. It is in middle of Nato states.
Gezgin
06-15-2009, 03:10 AM
Middle East powers. Serbia needs good Syria, Lebanese & Iranian allies with Pakistanis since they say Serbs really are Pakistanis. Russia left Serbia out in the cold when Serbia was at war in 1999. Plus, Russia is only a military power. The Middle East has an assortment of powers.I aggre.Russia is only military power and don't make progress.
Relikt
06-15-2009, 03:35 AM
Middle East powers. Serbia needs good Syria, Lebanese & Iranian allies with Pakistanis since they say Serbs really are Pakistanis. Russia left Serbia out in the cold when Serbia was at war in 1999. Plus, Russia is only a military power. The Middle East has an assortment of powers.
Any help in welcome even from Pakistan. If they say we are Pakistanis I dont have nothing against it (history/genetics say different but how cares :lol3:).
gisse
06-15-2009, 03:50 AM
Only problem are warriors from those countries which was fighting against Serbia side by side with pro-USA forces in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo.
Middle East powers. Serbia needs good Syria, Lebanese & Iranian allies with Pakistanis since they say Serbs really are Pakistanis. Russia left Serbia out in the cold when Serbia was at war in 1999. Plus, Russia is only a military power. The Middle East has an assortment of powers.
:lol3:
We have Saudi Arabia and UAE in our side.
gisse
06-15-2009, 06:07 AM
:lol3:
We have Saudi Arabia and UAE in our side.
can you tell me what is Saudi Arabia and what is UAE?
What do you mean, what they are? Use google ffs.
gisse
06-15-2009, 08:56 AM
What do you mean, what they are? Use google ffs.
Oh, i see, those lands in sand under USA foot.
The GodFather
06-15-2009, 10:52 AM
Any help in welcome even from Pakistan. If they say we are Pakistanis I dont have nothing against it (history/genetics say different but how cares. Many Albanians up here including Gon4z(gun force) said that Serbs are Pakistanian in ancestry. There may be a bond there enough for support.
Only problem are warriors from those countries which was fighting against Serbia side by side with pro-USA forces in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo.
Israel sent fighters and Iran sent fighter but I'm not sure about the other states.
solidsoldier
06-15-2009, 11:05 AM
When corruption ends
gisse
06-15-2009, 11:11 AM
Many Albanians up here including Gon4z(gun force) said that Serbs are Pakistanian in ancestry. There may be a bond there enough for support.
Israel sent fighters and Iran sent fighter but I'm not sure about the other states.
Don't know for Gon4z history facts.
There was fighters from UEA and Saudi Arabia, also from Algeria. Need to check to tell you for rest of countries.
There is also big problem. Religion.
DeepEyes
06-15-2009, 11:23 AM
Middle East powers. Serbia needs good Syria, Lebanese & Iranian allies with Pakistanis since they say Serbs really are Pakistanis. Russia left Serbia out in the cold when Serbia was at war in 1999. Plus, Russia is only a military power. The Middle East has an assortment of powers.
Most of the Middle East countries respect international law and did not recognize Kosovo as independent.
But it's more that they are scared to suffer same form USA hegemony as we did.
We have recent example of Egypt, that said that will not recognise Kosovo.
Iran sended a note to ICJ about illegal unilateral Kosovo's independence.
There are many examples... Syria, Lybia, Azerbaijan, Algeria ( all "non-democratic" :huh_oh3: so called "axis of evil" (I'm being sarcastic)), countries that respect international law and UN Charter, Resolution 1244...
Here you can read about support that Serbia gained on Organization of Islamic Conference.
http://www.blic.rs/news.php?id=4486
So, Serbia have friends... we could say.:laugh2:
DeepEyes
06-15-2009, 05:55 PM
Many Albanians up here including Gon4z(gun force) said that Serbs are Pakistanian in ancestry.
That guy, were banned for dozen of times, during 2006-2007 he posted about 10 posts per day,now he is deeply red...
Albanians are teaching us, Serbs, about our Serbian history...:huh_oh3:
We were Pakistani, and then we learn Slavic language, forgot our culture and except, old slavic beliefs...
Unkown Refugee!
06-16-2009, 10:34 AM
Most of the Middle East countries respect international law and did not recognize Kosovo as independent.
But it's more that they are scared to suffer same form USA hegemony as we did.
We have recent example of Egypt, that said that will not recognise Kosovo.
Iran sended a note to ICJ about illegal unilateral Kosovo's independence.
There are many examples... Syria, Lybia, Azerbaijan, Algeria ( all "non-democratic" :huh_oh3: so called "axis of evil"), countries that respect international law and UN Charter, Resolution 1244...
Here you can read about support that Serbia gained on Organization of Islamic Conference.
http://www.blic.rs/news.php?id=4486
So, Serbia have friends... we could say.:laugh2:
Sorry dude, i know its a different discussion here but you sure you are not mistaking Azerbaijan?
First of all, its not in Middle-East. Maybe you should look at Wikipedia at least.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azerbaijan
And how is its non-democratic and in "axis of evil"? :roflmao3:
Axis of Evil? LOL
The GodFather
06-16-2009, 11:39 AM
We were Pakistani, and then we learn Slavic language, forgot our culture and except, old slavic beliefs...
Well, don't you think Pakistan would be a much better ally than Russia? You would atleast have the Babur missile.
DeepEyes
06-16-2009, 07:38 PM
Sorry dude, i know its a different discussion here but you sure you are not mistaking Azerbaijan?
First of all, its not in Middle-East. Maybe you should look at Wikipedia at least.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azerbaijan
And how is its non-democratic and in "axis of evil"? :roflmao3:
Axis of Evil? LOL
I was being sarcastic to qualification that US government use often for countries that don't folow US interests: "axis of evil" , "non-democratic"...
Today are N.Korea, Iran, Syria... tomorrow someone else.
I don't think that Azerbaijan is axis of evil, or non-democratic... that's why I use " ".
I didn't specify that Azerbaijan is on ME. Also i mention Lybia,Algeria...
But in some cases Azer. is consider like ME country. Doesn't matter now...
It's important:
‘Syria, Egypt, Azerbaijan, Algeria and some other countries submitted amendments to that proposal so that the adopted resolution by Saudi Arabia does not call for recognition of Kosovo independence and does not mention it at all. That is another important diplomatic victory’, Jeremic said.
http://www.blic.rs/news.php?id=4486
Syria as official "axis of evil" country ( qualified by USA ) respect international law, UN Charter, UN Securitu Concil Resolutin 1244... and not recognize illegal and unilateral Kosovo's independence.
Different from "democratic" USA that disrespect all this, and also Dayton Agreement also signed by USA.
DeepEyes
06-16-2009, 07:50 PM
Well, don't you think Pakistan would be a much better ally than Russia? You would atleast have the Babur missile.
It's not functioning like that, it's different... And Russia is not Serbia's ally. They just not folow America's invitation to break every peace of international law and order that protect small and military weak contries...
Djali_Madhorit
07-14-2009, 07:11 PM
oooo WOW THIS thread is out of proportion there is so much trolling.
gisse
07-14-2009, 11:00 PM
oooo WOW THIS thread is out of proportion there is so much trolling.
Read last pool option and you will get it same moment :D
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