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arash the archer
10-07-2006, 01:24 AM
Janbaz translated it for me tanx

Iranian Air Force (IRIAF) attack on Iraqi Air Force bases collectively known as H3 or Al-Walid

- TARGET the Primary Airfield known as (H-3), plus two secondary Air field close to Iraq Jordan border deep behind Iraqi lines and generally considered out of reach of IRIAF.

- BACKGROUND by April 1981 Iraqi Air Force under pressure from IRIAF had been forced to withdraw many of its Air assets at furthest point from Iran, including recently delivered Mirage F-1 coming in from France in order to re-group in preperation for upcoming Iranain major ground offensives..

- Flight plan to reach the concentration of Iraqi Aircraft in open plan airfields of Al-Walid or H-3 required Low Flight all the way to target parallel to Iraqi Turkey and Syrian Border.

- Total 4 x in-flight Refuelling to get to target and back (First over Iranian city of Urumieh lake, second and on border with Iraq-Turkey-Syria, Third North west of Iraq, last and forth back over Iran)

- Tankers refuelling inside Iraq had to fly through special flight plan ! (No extra comments)

- 10 x IRIAF F-4 with hand picked crew Taking part, with 8 active to actually fly mission, and 2 x Reserves in case anyone had to drop out for any reason

- Diversionary Air Attack mounted by IRIAF on Kirkuk by 2 x F-5E

- 2 x F-14 assigned as escort to each IRIAF tanker.

- Total Mission Flight lasted 4 Hours 40 Min

- 3 x Main Airfields hit, including Destroyed and Damaged (Major and Minor to some 48 Iraqi Combat Jets (Mirage F-1, Mig-23, Mig-21, SU-20, Bombers (TU-16 and TU-22), Transport, and Helicopters.

- 3 x Large Aircraft maintenance shelters destroyed

- No IRIAF Aircraft lost, although one looks had minor hits by AAA and has to make emergency landing and is recovered (No extra comments)

- flight of F-14 and F-5 welcoming back the raiding group.

- The total claimed figure of 48 x Destroyed and damaged Iraqi Aircraft comes from both Gun camera on F-4, intercepts of report from base monitored back to Baghdad, And infiltrators from Al-Dawa party of Iraq who were fighting Saddam regime and aiding Iran.

- Iraqi Air defence Commander for region recalled to Baghdad and never heard from after the incident.

- The raid was most incredible Morale boaster mission for Iran in 1981, with special News Flash report on TV, followed by statement read by the then Iranian Air Force commander Col, Fakori, not mention front page headlines.
(translateed by Janbaz)
http://www.sabokbalan.com/sp/images/articles/h3/001.jpg
http://www.sabokbalan.com/sp/images/articles/h3/003.jpg
http://www.sabokbalan.com/sp/images/articles/h3/004.jpg

Night
10-07-2006, 01:36 AM
Sorry Arash, I cant understand what your saying. Maybe if your English isn't that good you could PM the post in Farsi to a Farsi speaker on the forum, and have them translate it into English for you?

Also, the Iraq-Iran air war is extremely interesting, I'd like to read more about it :D

Regards

Janbaz
10-07-2006, 02:30 AM
This is not a direct translation, but this is more or less is what is said above in Farsi.

Iranian Air Force (IRIAF) attack on Iraqi Air Force bases collectively known as H3 or Al-Walid

- TARGET the Primary Airfield known as (H-3), plus two secondary Air field close to Iraq Jordan border deep behind Iraqi lines and generally considered out of reach of IRIAF.

- BACKGROUND by April 1981 Iraqi Air Force under pressure from IRIAF had been forced to withdraw many of its Air assets at furthest point from Iran, including recently delivered Mirage F-1 coming in from France in order to re-group in preperation for upcoming Iranain major ground offensives..

- Flight plan to reach the concentration of Iraqi Aircraft in open plan airfields of Al-Walid or H-3 required Low Flight all the way to target parallel to Iraqi Turkey and Syrian Border.

- Total 4 x in-flight Refuelling to get to target and back (First over Iranian city of Urumieh lake, second and on border with Iraq-Turkey-Syria, Third North west of Iraq, last and forth back over Iran)

- Tankers refuelling inside Iraq had to fly through special flight plan ! (No extra comments)

- 10 x IRIAF F-4 with hand picked crew Taking part, with 8 active to actually fly mission, and 2 x Reserves in case anyone had to drop out for any reason

- Diversionary Air Attack mounted by IRIAF on Kirkuk by 2 x F-5E

- 2 x F-14 assigned as escort to each IRIAF tanker.

- Total Mission Flight lasted 4 Hours 40 Min

- 3 x Main Airfields hit, including Destroyed and Damaged (Major and Minor to some 48 Iraqi Combat Jets (Mirage F-1, Mig-23, Mig-21, SU-20, Bombers (TU-16 and TU-22), Transport, and Helicopters.

- 3 x Large Aircraft maintenance shelters destroyed

- No IRIAF Aircraft lost, although one looks had minor hits by AAA and has to make emergency landing and is recovered (No extra comments)

- flight of F-14 and F-5 welcoming back the raiding group.

- The total claimed figure of 48 x Destroyed and damaged Iraqi Aircraft comes from both Gun camera on F-4, intercepts of report from base monitored back to Baghdad, And infiltrators from Al-Dawa party of Iraq who were fighting Saddam regime and aiding Iran.

- Iraqi Air defence Commander for region recalled to Baghdad and never heard from after the incident.

- The raid was most incredible Morale boaster mission for Iran in 1981, with special News Flash report on TV, followed by statement read by the then Iranian Air Force commander Col, Fakori, not mention front page headlines.

Night
10-07-2006, 02:43 AM
I meant to Private Message it to someone :) Would a Smod please delete all the posts and edit the first post with the better translation?

kaiser_tr
10-07-2006, 04:34 AM
how many planes were used during this battle??

i saw in a documentry that one time germans attacked to britain with more than 700 planes...

EuropeanBastard
10-07-2006, 04:50 AM
how many planes were used during this battle??

i saw in a documentry that one time germans attacked to britain with more than 700 hundred planes...

You mean 7 hundred, I suppose. But even 700 planes isnt so high number. When the Allies attacked German cities of Hamburg and Dresden they used thousands of airplanes.

kaiser_tr
10-07-2006, 04:54 AM
yes allies used more planes but personally i think german's task was harder...

during german attack brits could fight back cause they still had a strong airforce...but when allies attacked to dresden there were no resistance on air


its like punching a dead man

arash the archer
10-07-2006, 10:24 AM
how many planes were used during this battle??

i saw in a documentry that one time germans attacked to britain with more than 700 planes...

The number of the Fighters attack is not important the mass of damage is important and in this one 48 fighters had been damaged.

asif
10-07-2006, 11:06 AM
well the iraqi air defences werent exactly the best in the world, israeli also did simliar attack on Osarik reactor in 1981, iraqi were stuipid they never know how to fight as seen against coiliation forces in 1991 gulf war

iran tried to attack Osarik reactor but failed, then thats why Israel went in to finish the job

Janbaz
10-07-2006, 12:58 PM
The reason that Iran was unable to destroy the Osrik Nuclear power, was because Iran did lack the percision bombing technology. With out Pin Point accuracy, there is no way you can put out the Reactor out of commision in couple of bombing runs. Israel on the other hand did have the percision Laser bombs. United States did sell the Percision bombs to Iraq in 1987 and by 1988 the Iraqi were using it against Iranian Military Targets heavily.

Night
10-07-2006, 03:35 PM
You mean 7 hundred, I suppose. But even 700 planes isnt so high number. When the Allies attacked German cities of Hamburg and Dresden they used thousands of airplanes.

In a modern war, thats a hell of a lot :) Especially for this war.

Xerxes
10-07-2006, 07:57 PM
the title of the thread should probably not say "the biggest in the world".
I dont think it was even the biggest air raid in that war. Nevertheless, the air raid on H-3 was quite ambitious adventure and was very effective at zero loss for the Iranians. I remember them (Iran) even sending boeing tanker into Turkey space and refueling inside their air space.

oh yeah, I forgot, Syria also gave us some intelligent report of H-3 layout and defenses. BTW Didnt Israel use something like 8 F-15 and 6 F-16 for the Iraq nuke raid.

Night
10-07-2006, 10:50 PM
I believe it was just 8 F-16's.

kaiser_tr
10-08-2006, 01:10 PM
In a modern war, thats a hell of a lot :) Especially for this war.



yes,today most countries dont have 700 planes:)