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Shery
10-28-2006, 08:39 AM
What is Anti christ or ( massikh dagal ( a3war ) ?

He s the one who shall come and claim that he is good
and make people sea heaven as hell and hell as heaven

But only faithful people will notice that his heaven its the hell ....

Big portion of human will worship him instead of god

The main mission of the antichrist is to make people believe in him instead of god

Do he exist now ? did he successed in his mission ?

Well I strongly believe that he exist and did successed

and according to islam

we believe that prophet jesus never been crusified
but the person who been crusified was ( YAHUZA) ( Judas Iscariot )

So according to our believe

The man on the cross is not jesus ...

He is Judas iscariot

The biggest religion world wide is christianity

The people believe in the man on the cross that he is god
cuz they believe that jesus is god
They believe that jesus was crussified

So the man on the cross did successed to make most of the world believe in him instead of god

Why would mary magdeline story could be true ?

Because the punishment of the antichrist was to be crussified instead of jesus

Cuz judas did betray jesus and god

So because the antichrist isnt a human as us ... he didnt die
so that is why when they search his body ( after his crusified )
they couldnt find him
cuz he is the beast ....

Probably he met mary magdeline and took it to another country
to start to produce his nation ... ( the antichrist family )

With all respect to christian ( I dont think that god would write in his book that a prophet would fornicate with a woman )

But the antichrist would corrupt the bible that way
to misslead people to the truth ...

The antichrist would want to woman that been living in fornication all her life to get his children

a prophet wouldnt do that .....

( and god knows the best )

If god wanted to forgive all people
He dont need to be crusified to carry their sins ...
and It seems that believing in jesus as savior become a excuse for those who wants to make sin

and they think that jesus will carry their sin as long as they believe in him as their savior and he did crusified for what they are doing now !!!!!!!!!

So it seems that is a very good excuse to do all the sin in the name of jesus is the savior ....



Christianity is the only religion that is very different than islam and judaism

and both muslim and jew dont believe that god is a human

mulsim believe that jesus was a prophet
and jew dont believe in jesus at all .....


The christianity do not allow to circumsize man
both judaism and islam it is a must ..
Christian eat pork and never eat halal food ( kosher )
both islam and judaism ( eat kosher ) and dont eat pork .

christianity allow ***s to marry in church ( 2 priest can get married !!! )

and the modern jew did follow what those christian do
but extremist jew dont say that god loves ***s ...
islam too


Anyhow our prophet mohamed said :

that antichrist will be with one eye
he will be politicaly very effective and powerful ....

I think this man in this picture is the antichrist ... of the year of century

and his name is james schall and he is professor in georgetown university
he is politics philosophy

One of the priest who hates islam so much
and he preached for the war against iraq

and he dont likes jew as well
and his opinion in the passion of the christ movie
that is the most movie closer to what happened to jesus

How would he know ? he was there to know what happened to this man who been crusified and lost one eye ?

this priest always make joke about himself that he is very well known
because he is the only priest with one eye .

and God knows the best ....

Note :

I dont mean any offense to christian or to anyone
( christian believe in what you want even if you want to believe in moon god )

I m explaning my point of view as you always explaning your rude point of views about islam ...

I do respect christianity as religion sent by god
but that doesnt mean that I believe that it was nt corrupted
and god is one and has no son .

Peace upon all good people amen .

General
10-28-2006, 08:53 AM
Interesting my friend , very very interesting , and good find . I was believing that Deccal maybe '' Sai Baba '' but this finding of your looks interesting aswell , anyways , I believe in Deccal halfly since its not mentioned in Qur'an but I not have any clue who can it be or not because there is too much tricksters nowadays .

Shery
10-28-2006, 09:03 AM
Interesting my friend , very very interesting , and good find . I was believing that Deccal maybe '' Sai Baba '' but this finding of your looks interesting aswell , anyways , I believe in Deccal halfly since its not mentioned in Qur'an but I not have any clue who can it be or not because there is too much tricksters nowadays .

I believe that all books was always not very clear
you need always think to conclude what god need to hints for us

So the antichrist or massiekh dagal should not be some1 who come and say

Hey people I m your god

it should be a trick

and according to our believe that jesus was never crusified

and more than half the world worship this man on the cross

he is not even jesus ... he is judas

Do you know also that there s a gospel of judas ? that tells that judas did even betray jesus ... so isnt that indicate that judas was alive after crussified and came to revenge and misslead people .


Gospel of Judas
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Gospel of Judas
Date before 180, possibly mentioned by Irenaeus
Attribution no attribution
Location El Minya, Egypt near Beni Masar,
Sources no academic consensus
Manuscripts Codex Tchacos, references in early Christian writings
Audience Cainites / Sethians - Gnostic sects
Theme The loyalty of Judas
The Gospel of Judas is a Gnostic gospel, the text of which was partially reconstructed in 2006. It has a strong positive focus on Judas Iscariot but does not claim to have been written by him. According to the canonical Gospels, Judas betrayed Jesus to the Jewish authorities, who then turned him over to the Roman authorities by whom he was crucified. The Gospel of Judas interprets this act positively, as one performed in obedience to the instructions of Jesus, rather than as a betrayal. This positive portrayal follows from the Gnostic notion that the human form is a prison. In this view, Judas helped to release the spirit of Christ from its physical constraints.

The Gospel of Judas does not claim that the other disciples knew gnostic teachings. On the contrary, it asserts that the disciples have not learned the true Gospel, which Jesus taught only to Judas Iscariot, as exemplified in the following words: "Knowing that Judas was reflecting upon something that was exalted, Jesus said to him: Step away from the others and I shall tell you the mysteries of the Kingdom. It is possible for you to reach it, but you will grieve a great deal. For someone else will replace you, in order that the twelve disciples may again come to completion with their God."

The Gospel of Judas goes even further, showing Jesus in various instances criticizing the other disciples for their ignorance and their followers of immorality. When they present a vision they had to him, he points out the vision's true meaning as follows: "Those you have seen receiving the offerings at the altar — that is who you are. That is the God you serve, and you are those twelve men you have seen. The cattle you have seen brought for sacrifice are the many people you lead astray before that altar. (. . .) will stand and make use of My name in this way, and generations of the pious will remain loyal to Him."

General
10-28-2006, 09:06 AM
I was though when Jesus back Muslims and Christians will come together and Jesus will broke the cross and end the Judaism ... With saying that all christians currently followers of the Deccal , isn't that a bit contradict the Jesus's back theory ? Since I was believe Jews will be follower of Deccal , but still my information is limited .

Shery
10-28-2006, 09:12 AM
I was though when Jesus back Muslims and Christians will come together and Jesus will broke the cross and end the Judaism ... With saying that all christians currently followers of the Deccal , isn't that a bit contradict the Jesus's back theory ? Since I was believe Jews will be follower of Deccal , but still my information is limited .

how can you be sure of any of those stories ?

well you need to know that you will always be misslead by the evil himself

I also heard about that
jesus will come and preach for islam and destroy all the crosses and say I m not god or even son of god

but I never heard about that all christian will follow him ... or that all jew must die ....


But i heard about teh story that even the trees will pointed on jew

So that is why jew are planting a specific tree ( this tree the only tree that wouldnt say there s a jew behind me )

but all this stories ( are not positive )

because at the end nothing was mentioned on koran about it


But what I m sure of it

that the antichrist exist

and people see his hell as heaven ...
and the faithful see his heaven as hell .... and the faithful people are suffering
and chased and fighted by the whole world

and the one who is holding his faith is the one who is suffering

and I m sure that this antichrist is the one who been crusified


loook carefully around you ?

the christian are dieing hard to make most of the people convert to christianity
and tell you jesus is your savior

They spent lot of money to convert the most people they can

they are the most strongest people all over the world

comparing to jew ( the jew power almost nothing )

and without christian support ( the jew wouldnt be that strong )

General
10-28-2006, 09:35 AM
I am not sure if my thoughs are true or not , I just saying what I heard and even I not completely believe in them :suspicious4:

Maybe that tree is in Lebanon ? There is a tree in Lebanon Flag and as we know that Israel already fight with them and Hezbollah won , anyways I think you got what I mean :)

And do you have any idea on Sai Baba , since He is more likely to be Deccal than that professor , and have billions of dollars and millions of followers from all over the world , and persons says he can go between long distances in short time with his power ... :huh2:

Shery
10-28-2006, 09:50 AM
I am not sure if my thoughs are true or not , I just saying what I heard and even I not completely believe in them :suspicious4:

Maybe that tree is in Lebanon ? There is a tree in Lebanon Flag and as we know that Israel already fight with them and Hezbollah won , anyways I think you got what I mean :)

And do you have any idea on Sai Baba , since He is more likely to be Deccal than that professor , and have billions of dollars and millions of followers from all over the world , and persons says he can go between long distances in short time with his power ... :huh2:

No who is he ???
explain more please ....

General
10-28-2006, 12:58 PM
I read informations about him on turkish sites , but if you want to learn , search it on google and you will find somethings about him , I not believe he is deccal but he has a potential just like the professor you show ...

Shery
10-28-2006, 01:17 PM
I read informations about him on turkish sites , but if you want to learn , search it on google and you will find somethings about him , I not believe he is deccal but he has a potential just like the professor you show ...

Well I have read about him
But he is not strong as christianity
and he has no power as Fr james schall who even is member in vatican
and half of the world worshiping this man on the cross

which in islam we believe he is not jesus

and which the people opened his grave and they didn find his body .

Xorraas-L-Çarz
10-28-2006, 01:23 PM
Well I have read about him
But he is not strong as christianity
and he has no power as Fr james schall who even is member in vatican
and half of the world worshiping this man on the cross

which in islam we believe he is not jesus

and which the people opened his grave and they didn find his body .

u twit Christians believe that he rose from the dead on the 3 day…maybe u should get a life and stop acting lie a robot to the books

Shery
10-28-2006, 01:48 PM
u twit Christians believe that he rose from the dead on the 3 day…maybe u should get a life and stop acting lie a robot to the books

Well you say whatever about islam and when some1 open his mouth about your beliefs you jumb into his stomac !

Well I believe in what i said
and all muslims believe that jesus was prophet and he never been crusified

So according to our beliefs ... Who m,ight be this man who been crusified
and why the couldnt find his body after death

But you dont have to discuss that because you believe that jesus is the one who been crusified and you believe that jesus is god and son of god

So defenitely this issue wouldnt be important to you

you already made up ur mind that the man who been crusified is your god !

Xorraas-L-Çarz
10-28-2006, 03:04 PM
I told u once and I will tell u again am not a religious person and I don’t really believe in god…..if u want to insult someone at least get your facts straight about their believes

Shery
10-28-2006, 03:13 PM
I told u once and I will tell u again am not a religious person and I don’t really believe in god…..if u want to insult someone at least get your facts straight about their believes

HEY MAN
I m not insulting christian

All christians already know
what we believe
they know that ALL MUSLIMS
believe that jesus is prophet
jesus never been crusified

and actually even christian knows that antichrist will be a religion politics man

and in my point of view according to our beliefs

the man on the cross was the antichrist ,,,,

So that is logicaly according to our beliefs

already christian knows that we dont believe that jesus been crusified ,

Ezhdeha
10-28-2006, 09:59 PM
HEY MAN
I m not insulting christian

All christians already know
what we believe
they know that ALL MUSLIMS
believe that jesus is prophet
jesus never been crusified

and actually even christian knows that antichrist will be a religion politics man

and in my point of view according to our beliefs

the man on the cross was the antichrist ,,,,

So that is logicaly according to our beliefs

already christian knows that we dont believe that jesus been crusified ,


Actually no Shery they all don't know Muslims believe that Jesus was a prophet. The media here in the USA always makes it sound like Allah is different from the God they (Christians) worship. Most dont even know Muslims believe in Jesus at all. Some people do know but most don't. I think one of the biggest problems here in the US is a majority of the people here chose to remain ignorant to what the rest of the world thinks and believes.

Shery
10-28-2006, 10:13 PM
Actually no Shery they all don't know Muslims believe that Jesus was a prophet. The media here in the USA always makes it sound like Allah is different from the God they (Christians) worship. Most dont even know Muslims believe in Jesus at all. Some people do know but most don't. I think one of the biggest problems here in the US is a majority of the people here chose to remain ignorant to what the rest of the world thinks and believes.

they will learn
that we have a 3 Surat in quoran mainly talks about Saint mary and prophet jesus

3. The Family Of 'Imran, The House Of 'Imran
5. The Table, The Table Spread
19. Mary

And also in other many Surat theres verses speaking about prophet jesus

and By time they will learn

and may god save the people who has good hearts from hell amen .

Sam
10-29-2006, 01:43 AM
they will learn
that we have a 3 Surat in quoran mainly talks about Saint mary and prophet jesus

3. The Family Of 'Imran, The House Of 'Imran
5. The Table, The Table Spread
19. Mary

And also in other many Surat theres verses speaking about prophet jesus

and By time they will learn

and may god save the people who has good hearts from hell amen .

What does the Qur'an say about the Blessed Mother Mary?

Shery
10-29-2006, 07:04 AM
What does the Qur'an say about the Blessed Mother Mary?

45. Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah

87. We gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a succession of apostles; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the holy spirit. Is it that whenever there comes to you an apostle with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay!

136. Say ye: "We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam)."

157. That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

171. O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His apostles. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.

172. Christ disdaineth nor to serve and worship Allah, nor do the angels, those nearest (to Allah): those who disdain His worship and are arrogant,-He will gather them all together unto Himself to (answer).

253. Those apostles We endowed with gifts, some above others: To one of them Allah spoke; others He raised to degrees (of honour); to Jesus the son of Mary We gave clear (Signs), and strengthened him with the holy spirit. If Allah had so willed, succeeding generations would not have fought among each other, after clear (Signs) had come to them, but they (chose) to wrangle, some believing and others rejecting. If Allah had so willed, they would not have fought each other; but Allah Fulfilleth His plan.

SUrat Baqarah 1
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17. In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ the son of Mary. Say: "Who then hath the least power against Allah, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every - one that is on the earth? For to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For Allah hath power over all things."

45. Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.

52. When Jesus found Unbelief on their part He said: "Who will be My helpers to (the work of) Allah." Said the disciples: "We are Allah.s helpers: We believe in Allah, and do thou bear witness that we are Muslims.

55. Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.

59. The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was.


72. They do blaspheme who say: "(Allah) is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help.

75. Christ the son of Mary was no more than an apostle; many were the apostles that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!

84. Say: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam)."

Surat 2 the family of Imaran

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30. The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah.s curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!


31. They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah. there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).

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163. We have sent thee inspiration, as We sent it to Noah and the Messengers after him: we sent inspiration to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes, to Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and solomon, and to David We gave the Psalms.

Surat woman

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46. And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah

78. Curses were pronounced on those among the Children of Israel who rejected Faith, by the tongue of David and of Jesus the son of Mary: because they disobeyed and persisted in excesses

110. Then will Allah say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favour to thee and to thy mother. Behold! I strengthened thee with the holy spirit, so that thou didst speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught thee the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel and behold! thou makest out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and thou breathest into it and it becometh a bird by My leave, and thou healest those born blind, and the lepers, by My leave. And behold! thou bringest forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) thee when thou didst show them the clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said: 'This is nothing but evident magic.'

112. Behold! the disciples, said: "O Jesus the son of Mary! can thy Lord send down to us a table set (with viands) from heaven?" Said Jesus: "Fear Allah, if ye have faith."

114. Said Jesus the son of Mary: "O Allah our Lord! Send us from heaven a table set (with viands), that there may be for us - for the first and the last of us - a solemn festival and a sign from thee; and provide for our sustenance, for thou art the best Sustainer (of our needs)."

116. And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah.?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.
Surat AlMa'ada ( the table )

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85. And Zakariya and John, and Jesus and Elias: all in the ranks of the righteous:

Surat 88 cattle ( Al ana'am )

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34. Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute.

Surat mary

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7. And remember We took from the prophets their covenant: As (We did) from thee: from Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary: We took from them a solemn covenant:

Surat The clans ( al ahazab ) 33

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Sam
10-29-2006, 03:38 PM
Thanks. Have you memorised these or did you copy them?

shiker
09-14-2007, 10:33 PM
there are alot of books about massikh el dajjal .. but i find gog w magog more interesting ... they will come after massikh el dajjal