Breaking News Sharon has had a stroke

[Kilo877]

Just heard on the News there that he has suffered a minor storke at 77 years old could this lead to his retirement from politics?

From the Guardian.co.uk

Report: Ariel Sharon Suffers Minor Stroke

Sunday December 18, 2005 6:31 PM


AP Photo JRL102

JERUSALEM (AP) - Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon was taken to a Jerusalem hospital Sunday after feeling ill while working in his office, two Israel television stations reported. One of the stations said he suffered a minor stroke and had lost consciousness.

Channel 2 TV said the roads around the hospital were closed before Sharon, 77, arrived in his official vehicle.

Channel 10 TV, quoting police officials it did not identify, said Sharon apparently lost consciousness. He was taken directly to the emergency room of the hospital, the media reports said. Officials in Sharon's office were not available for comment.

Channel 10 reported that Sharon regained consciousness shortly after arriving at the hospital and quoted unnamed hospital sources as saying that he apparently suffered a minor stroke.

Hospital spokeswoman Yael Bossem-Levy said Sharon was undergoing tests, She would not give additional details. She told Israel TV that as far as she knew, Sharon was conscious.

[knight]

if he wont be the next pm
we got a war on our hand for sure

[hurdy]

if he wont be the next pm
we got a war on our hand for sure

Is it definite that Netanyahu will be elected if Sharon retires?

[Arman]

More instability is good.

[knight]

Is it definite that Netanyahu will be elected if Sharon retires?

the voters of the new "kadima" party that sharon created will most defiantly switch back to the right likud party and not to the left party that amir peretz is leading.

[knight]

More instability is good.

only a sick man wishes for the death of others.

[Arman]

only a sick man wishes for the death of others.
Only the death of enemies. :D

[hurdy]

More instability is good.

Instability isnt good cause instability puts governments on edge, it endangers the entire middle-east. Its better to have Sharon in power than those hardliners.

[Arman]

Instability isnt good cause instability puts governments on edge, it endangers the entire middle-east. Its better to have Sharon in power than those hardliners.
In this case I think instability is very good. Netanyahoe will not do anything. It is best for Sharon to die right now. People who are not elected always have a big mouth until they get elected and then they soften their stance because they know it is not achievable.

Sharon is a crazy rightwing monster, and no one else in their country is any different. Except that this guy actually killed many people with his own hand.

[4X-IL]

LOL
Arman how many **** can you talk

Netanyaho will be MUCH more hard of the palestiniens than Sharon is.
Netanyaho was againts the removal from Gaza, he wanted to stay there and fight harder.
Netanyaho have much stronger opinion on Iran and it having Nuclear weapons, why? because 90% of the israeli population want us to attack Iran, and Netanyaho want to give them what they want.

[Arman]

LOL
Arman how many **** can you talk

Netanyaho will be MUCH more hard of the palestiniens than Sharon is.
Netanyaho was againts the removal from Gaza, he wanted to stay there and fight harder.
Netanyaho have much stronger opinion on Iran and it having Nuclear weapons, why? because 90% of the israeli population want us to attack Iran, and Netanyaho want to give them what they want.
Interesting. According to a new poll held in the illegal zionist state, the majority was against an attack on Iran. (because they are scared of the retaliation) :)

Let me see if I can find the articles. :D it was a few days ago.

[Arman]

Israelis oppose attack on Iran nuclear facilities: poll
AFP | December 16 2005

Most Israelis want their government to use diplomacy rather than military power with regard to the potential threat posed by Iran's nuclear ambitions, a poll suggested Friday.

Asked what line of conduct Israel should adopt regarding Iran's nuclear plant, 58 percent of those surveyed said diplomatic paths, while 36 percent thought it necessary to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities.

The poll was published in the daily Yediot Aharanot newspaper, and the question did not refer to a specific nuclear facility.

The survey was carried out by the Dahaf Institute and queried 510 people it said were representative of the Israeli population. Its margin of error was 4.5 percentage points.

[Arman]

http://www.londonstimes.us/toons/cartoons/richdiesslin_pig_job.gif

[4X-IL]

Yeah ah?
how many times does you say
" Never listen to those pro-israeli westerns"
and all the other ****?
now if you'll know to read hebrew, go to www.ynet.co.il
do a search on Iran,
And on each report on Iran, that mentioun your nuclear facillities, you'll find about 300 comments, that 250 of them is " Lets shut them down "
" destroy them before they destroy us "
" **** they're nuclear facillities "
etc etc etc etc + etc etc etc ... etc.
now, who knows better what most of the people think?

[Arman]

Yeah ah?
how many times does you say
" Never listen to those pro-israeli westerns"
and all the other ****?
now if you'll know to read hebrew, go to www.ynet.co.il
do a search on Iran,
And on each report on Iran, that mentioun your nuclear facillities, you'll find about 300 comments, that 250 of them is " Lets shut them down "
" destroy them before they destroy us "
" **** they're nuclear facillities "
etc etc etc etc + etc etc etc ... etc.
now, who knows better what most of the people think?
*cough*
"Dahaf Institute"
*cough*
To scared to attack us...
*cough*

[4X-IL]

grow up.
you're not even live in Iran right now, how can you possibly said that? ^^

[isr agent]

Too scared to attack you? you stated yourself this poll is a public one, dont forget its not the public to decide if to attack or not, it is the government.

[Arman]

scared people = scared regime.... bwhahaha

:cool:

[4X-IL]

errr those kind of people just made me want more and more that the missile you got in your avater will land there with an " Greetings From Your Midle-Eastern Penpal " note#$!%$%

[isr agent]

scared people = scared regime.... bwhahaha

:cool:
lol arman you sound really like a child, BUT, i wont get to your level i like to keep my posts in a certain manner.
I have no idea how you conclude from the poll that people are scared, it says clearly they only prefer diplomatic actions than military, its not a question of being scared we just pity you iranians so much that you eventually achieved something in your country and we're about to destroy it.

[4X-IL]

lol arman you sound really like a child, BUT, i wont get to your level i like to keep my posts in a certain manner.
I have no idea how you conclude from the poll that people are scared, it says clearly they only prefer diplomatic actions than military, its not a question of being scared we just pity you iranians so much that you eventually achieved something in your country and we're about to destroy it.


good point.
lets those farsis do something who's actually worth something... for ones.

[Arman]

Hopefully he will have a horribly painful death that continues for months and then the regime collapses. Making some good instability there.

:cool:

[isr agent]

I doubt israel will collapse because of a leader's death, but atleast you have some sort of hope in your life, everyone should have one imo...

[4X-IL]

I hope evreyone realize me and isr agent just having fun and answering this idiot Arman here, in normal discussion we're acting like normal people.

[isr agent]

lol i find this guy amusing, i dont think he takes himself any serious than we do.

[Rascal]

I think that is what Ahmadinejad wants too.For Isreal to make the first strike so he can draw suport from the Arab states.Isreal will continue to protect it intrests ,but I don't think they will fall in the mullahs trap.

Even with scud missils comming into Isreal during the first golf war with Iraq,Isreal didn't attack.And I don't think they will do a first attack on Iran now.They are playing the waiting game also even with the evidence of Iranian arms suport to various militant groups.The waiting game gets harder as the retoric heats up and Ahmadinejad is already digging himself a hole.

Arab states are also a factor in this mess and might be getting itchy about Irans future plans.Possible outcome could be a regional arms race by the Arab states that feel threatened by Iran's actions.

http://www.filelodge.com/files/hdd4/81092/capt.ny19010261511.iran_israel_ny190.jpg

You don't see this kind of crap in Isreal(or anywhere else for that matter).This is pure hate.

http://www.filelodge.com/files/hdd4/81092/ce21d0701673b5.jpg

This could also be a factor in who suports who.

[Sarge]

Netanyahu wont get elected, he cannot even get elected in his own party so forget that.
As fare as The PRIME MINSTER of Israel, it is claimed he will be released shortly. Even though the fall of a PRIME MINSTER is not a cause for instability, and would not cause it. As for "kadima", if something should happen to him, someone else would get head of party and run their candidate.

[isr agent]

Its all about Labor and people with big moustaches :p now my friends call me a "commie" lmao :D

[Rascal]

remember the cartoon about the suicide bombing school.The instructor says"I am only going to show you how to do this once!"

@Sarge - "Even though the fall of a PRIME MINSTER is not a cause for instability, and would not cause it"

Ahadinejad wishes,but it is just a matter of electing another leader.This is not Iranian mullah politics.I think the US helps with Isreals self control thou because Isreal still packs a pounch and there are many calls for a preemptive assult from Isreal.And they are not relying on suicide bombers(basij) and future martyrs.The mullahs obviously won't take them head-on first.Iran is having a holy war all by itself.It uses religion to motivate for the purpose of war.No other country is doing this tactic with suport from the government.Isreal isn't because they are working with Arabs/muslims every day (sunnie,shiite hindu ,doesn't matter)

This is part of the problem of having church directly control the government.

http://www.filelodge.com/files/hdd4/81092/27217550148.jpg

that picture reminds me of waffen SS,anyone see the similarities?Seig Heil

I don't want to offend Iranians and most already understand how the government works,but this seems like a possible senerio.

I don't remember the person who said this(american general)Anyone?Sack?

"the object of war is NOT to die for your country,but to make some other poor bastard die for his."

[SackAssassin]

That would be General Patton. I've always been a fan of his. And General Sherman of the Civil War. Usually its quoted as "...to make the other poor bastard die for his."

Also, Israel is smart enough to know that a preemptive strike is a very bad idea.

[isr agent]

Israel is also smart enough to know tha nuclear iran is a very bad idea, now we're only have to decide- what from the 2 options we have is worse than the other? i think its pretty abvious, we could take on a conventional war but nuclear missiles will hit us and every other nation hard.

[SackAssassin]

The Iranians have every right to nulear power generation. They're not going to go up and nuke israel for shits and giggles you know. Cold War II.

[Arman]

He probably had the stroke because of fear for Iran.

[Kilo877]

Israel doesn't have the balls to attack Iran at the moment, it won't be as easy as the Iraqi reactor bombing in the early 80s and it will piss off every country in the region and the russians and chinese etc.

Why doesn't Israel promise to give up its nuclear weapons as a gesture to induce the Iranians to stop any nuclear weapons development programme that they may have.

[knight]

Israel doesn't have the balls to attack Iran at the moment, it won't be as easy as the Iraqi reactor bombing in the early 80s and it will piss off every country in the region and the russians and chinese etc.

Why doesn't Israel promise to give up its nuclear weapons as a gesture to induce the Iranians to stop any nuclear weapons development programme that they may have.

cos after irans statment the see the president as a crazy dude who cannot be trusted.

[4X-IL]

Because if israel wouldn't have Nuclear missiles in her past wars, i would probably woldn't have been in here right now, and probably the country either.

[SackAssassin]

When was the last time Israel used it nukes? What possible gain could they have from NUKING a country so close to thier own soil? None, it would be suicide. What with fallout and all that ****. It's not that they "don't have the balls," it's that they have the intelligence to know what a bad idea is.

[4X-IL]

oh right...
what does the US got to do with nukes? when was the last time she nuked a country? 60 years ago?
why she still needs them? ah?

[isr agent]

sack every country that has nukes will use it only as the last option, when your country is in a danger of existance even a suicide mission such as launching nukes is a good solution, i bet if all of our enemies would agree not to attack us anymore israel would get rid of the nukes but i dont see that happening.

[SackAssassin]

The US can't just up and say "BAM! Nukes are gone." And destroy them. Also, things would go to hell in a handbasket politically and ecologically if the US dropped a nuke. The US possesses a stockpile of nuclear arms for the sake of deterant. Mutually Assured Destruction, I believe is the term used. If the US (likewise Israel) suddenly eliminated (expensively) all thier nukes, it could prompt others to build up thier own weapons and have-at. I'm not saying that will happen, since it won't, but this shows my point.

[4X-IL]

Maybe it is harder to destroy 10000+ nukes than 400, but there's no reasone that we'll get rid of our nukes more than the US get rid of they're own.

[Rich]

Theres a tremendous amount of good will towards Israel from the American public that the world never hears about. ESPECIALLY after 9/11.

[Kilo877]

Theres a tremendous amount of good will towards Israel from the American public that the world never hears about. ESPECIALLY after 9/11.
Well we do hear about it in the rest of the world especially in the Middle East and I suppose thats why there is so much anger towards the US among Arabs, as they see that America is clearly biased towards Israel and the Al Qaeda Attacks have only strenghtened these ties

[Killur]

I support the way how you wish Sharon's death, cuz I would do the same in case of alhamanigasada, ill even send him a package filled wit ma best poopy. =)

[Jordan]

I'm not a fan of Sharon because he is an arrogant ass that thinks what israel wants is what the u.s. wants. But have said that I hope he doesn't die because at the moment I think he is probably the only realistic leader that will even consider getting out of the west bank.

as far as israel being afraid of iran, ffs I might not like their government but I never took them for the type to lay down in a fight. Same goes for Iran.

[Da Sha]

I hope he makes it

[Arman]

You should have hoped earlier.

Ariel Sharon dead

Zionist regime's Prime Minister Ariel Sharon died of massive strock, Arabic network Al-Arabiay said Thursday.

Shaorn, who was carrying the blot of massacre in Lebanese villages of Sabra and Shatila in 1982, died after he underwent surgical operations for hours.

Sharon lost battle with a stroke and the aftermath brain haemorrage aftrer he was admitted to hospital Wednesday night.

[4X-IL]

ROFLLL
you've never been more stupid than you are right now

Sharon is dead?
hem?????
since when?
from what i see right now in about evrey news channel in the world
sharon has been anaesthetized and will be woken up tomorrow, after a succesful brain surgery.

[The War Is Near]

ROFLLL
you've never been more stupid than you are right now

Sharon is dead?
hem?????
since when?
from what i see right now in about evrey news channel in the world
sharon has been anaesthetized and will be woken up tomorrow, after a succesful brain surgery.
Ok. Who farted ? LOL :D
Who care about Sharon or the little Israel ? Not me !.. :)

And don't call Arman stupid ! :mad:

[Mujaheeeedin]

Relly I hope he Dies and burns in hell World is a beter plase with out him:mad:

[Da Sha]

You should have hoped earlier.

Ariel Sharon dead

Zionist regime's Prime Minister Ariel Sharon died of massive strock, Arabic network Al-Arabiay said Thursday.

Shaorn, who was carrying the blot of massacre in Lebanese villages of Sabra and Shatila in 1982, died after he underwent surgical operations for hours.

Sharon lost battle with a stroke and the aftermath brain haemorrage aftrer he was admitted to hospital Wednesday night.

Do you check any other news besides the Arab Channels? He is in critical condition. You are an Idiot get your facts right.


Ariel Sharon is to be kept sedated for at least 24 hours after surgeons stemmed bleeding from a massive brain haemorrhage.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/D75CBAFB-CC3D-44E0-8232-0225C4195E2F.htm

[Mujaheeeedin]

Ok. Who farted ? LOL :D
Who care about Sharon or the little Israel ? Not me !.. :)

And don't call Arman stupid ! :mad:

Not me ether may he burn in hell Heas Like Hitler that ass i hate him with hole my heart i hope he will burn fore ever

[The War Is Near]

Ariel Sharon is to be kept sedated for at least 24 hours after surgeons stemmed bleeding from a massive brain haemorrhage.
When you have a brain haemorrhage, you can't do anything after that !
You become just a troll. But he was a troll before that. :D
But I'm sure this **** bag will be replaced very soon by another pig !

[Da Sha]

When you have a brain haemorrhage, you can't do anything after that !
You become just a troll. :D
But I'm sure this **** bag will be replaced very soon by another pig !


Comming from someone who only knows ovem joke, HMMMMMMM a troll calling someone else a troll. He said Sharon is Dead and Isaid no. Go troll somehwere else, moron. like him or not if he dies the hope of a Palastinian homeland dies with him. Whoever succeeds him will not do A Unilateral peace process

[4X-IL]

I've never witnessed such odd humor from iranian ( ex iranian ).
who knows
maybe its from birth

[Killur]

Israel doesn't fight for its biblical lands? where are yo uget this? AL menara? Hizbollah TV?

Israel fights for survival.

Think about it, if it wanted biblical lands, it wouldn't commit the disengagement plan and the sinai retreatment, just for peace.

Get you facts straight, and stop bullshiting.

[Ebrami]

first of all, sorry for the bad english.

Ariel Sharon is going to die soon. he had another bleeding inside his brain a couple of hours ago, this time its serious, 99 percent that he'll be dead in a couple of hours.

as for Israel fighting for biblical things - thats bullshit.
Zionism was established by a complete secular european-jews, their goal was to establish a european-front at the primitive (thats what they thought) middle-east. they started to use biblical reasons so that other jews (religous and arab-jews that most of them were traditionals) could feel empathy to the idea and join them.
the zionist european-jews didnt hide their arrogance. many of the establishers of Israel (that were all european) were totaly racist against arabs, and against arab-jews too. thats why there was and there is a big discrimination against arabs and against arab-jews even today.
at the early 50's, there were a big imigration waves to Israel by jews from arab countries and from european countries, and somehow, the european ones always got houses at the big cities and better jobs and the arab-jews (from Morroco, Tunisia, Iraq ,etc..) stayed many years living in tents, getting poor education system, poor jobs and poor living conditions, not to mention the experiments that was made on 100,000 Morroco-jewish kids- some european-jewish doctors said that those kids brought diseases like Ringworm with them from Morroco, so they tied them to a chair, shaved their heads and had radiation on their had for a long time. as a result of that, most of those kids got cancer and other diseases.
you can read more at

http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/ringworm_children_how_israeli_gov_irradiated_100k_kids.htm

untill this very day, the racist-zionist regime of Israel did nothing to reduce the socio-economic gaps between european-jews and arab-jews, not to mention the arab-muslims.

[Killur]

first of all, sorry for the bad english.

Ariel Sharon is going to die soon. he had another bleeding inside his brain a couple of hours ago, this time its serious, 99 percent that he'll be dead in a couple of hours.

as for Israel fighting for biblical things - thats bullshit.
Zionism was established by a complete secular european-jews, their goal was to establish a european-front at the primitive (thats what they thought) middle-east. they started to use biblical reasons so that other jews (religous and arab-jews that most of them were traditionals) could feel empathy to the idea and join them.
the zionist european-jews didnt hide their arrogance. many of the establishers of Israel (that were all european) were totaly racist against arabs, and against arab-jews too. thats why there was and there is a big discrimination against arabs and against arab-jews even today.
at the early 50's, there were a big imigration waves to Israel by jews from arab countries and from european countries, and somehow, the european ones always got houses at the big cities and better jobs and the arab-jews (from Morroco, Tunisia, Iraq ,etc..) stayed many years living in tents, getting poor education system, poor jobs and poor living conditions, not to mention the experiments that was made on 100,000 Morroco-jewish kids- some european-jewish doctors said that those kids brought diseases like Ringworm with them from Morroco, so they tied them to a chair, shaved their heads and had radiation on their had for a long time. as a result of that, most of those kids got cancer and other diseases.
you can read more at

http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/ringworm_children_how_israeli_gov_irradiated_100k_kids.htm

untill this very day, the racist-zionist regime of Israel did nothing to reduce the socio-economic gaps between european-jews and arab-jews, not to mention the arab-muslims.


I agree on one thing, there used to be racism against arab jews, just like there is racism towards all minorities around the world (black and mexicans in the US, arabs in europe), so basically, you can't call Israel a racist state. Things are different now' Racism almost doesn't exist against arab jews, for example: the current chief of staff is Dan Halutz, who is Persian (he was a pilot too) and the former PM of Israel was an arab-jew.
Arab jews get the same education and social aid like everyone else.

You make it sound as if arab jews despise Israel and its goverment, well NEWS FLASH: arab jews are great zionists and love the country, trust me, they aint gonna move back to morroco any time soon.

About those children, I never heard of this..how authentic is that link?

At any rate, straighten out your facts please. Remember, you don't live in Israel and you don't know any Isareli jews on which you can base your claims.

[Ebrami]

I agree on one thing, there used to be racism against arab jews, just like there is racism towards all minorities around the world (black and mexicans in the US, arabs in europe), so basically, you can't call Israel a racist state. Things are different now' Racism almost doesn't exist against arab jews, for example: the current chief of staff is Dan Halutz, who is Persian (he was a pilot too) and the former PM of Israel was an arab-jew.
Arab jews get the same education and social aid like everyone else.

You make it sound as if arab jews despise Israel and its goverment, well NEWS FLASH: arab jews are great zionists and love the country, trust me, they aint gonna move back to morroco any time soon.

About those children, I never heard of this..how authentic is that link?

At any rate, straighten out your facts please. Remember, you don't live in Israel and you don't know any Isareli jews on which you can base your claims.

בן אדם, אני ישראלי.
what are you talking about? look at the statistics- 70 percent of the people in jail in Israel are arab-jews, only 25 percent of people at university are arab-jews, and their part of the population is more than 50 percent!
there was no arab-jew as a prime minister, ever.
and about the story about the 100,000, thats true and its a well known story in Israel, but all of the israeli governments all the years didnt take responsibility about that.

[Killur]

בן אדם, אני ישראלי.
what are you talking about? look at the statistics- 70 percent of the people in jail in Israel are arab-jews, only 25 percent of people at university are arab-jews, and their part of the population is more than 50 percent!
there was no arab-jew as a prime minister, ever.
and about the story about the 100,000, thats true and its a well known story in Israel, but all of the israeli governments all the years didnt take responsibility about that.


Ehud Barak wasnt an arab jew? =\

Israel is 57 years old. Related to other countries, Israel is a baby.
Israel is developing and eventually there wont be any "arab jews" and "euro jews".
The number of arab jews registering to univirsties is growing every year, they recieve help in getting accepted to schools as well.

The arab jews situation is Israel is very similar to the sitation of the black people in the US, they used to be heavily discriminated, but now they recieve different benefits over the white people, so equality will be reached.


This a process every new country must go through and eventually the "diverse" population of Israel will become only one.

[Ebrami]

Ehud Barak wasnt an arab jew? =\

Israel is 57 years old. Related to other countries, Israel is a baby.
Israel is developing and eventually there wont be any "arab jews" and "euro jews".
The number of arab jews registering to univirsties is growing every year, they recieve help in getting accepted to schools as well.

The arab jews situation is Israel is very similar to the sitation of the black people in the US, they used to be heavily discriminated, but now they recieve different benefits over the white people, so equality will be reached.


This a process every new country must go through and eventually the "diverse" population of Israel will become only one.

the gap between arab-jews and european-jews isnt decreasing. you can still see the differences so stop doing yourself like there are no differences.
zionism was established by european racist jews.
arab-jews dont get benefits over the european jews, just look at israel's economic changes- reach people get more money while poor people loose more money.

[Shahrukh]

Israel is 57 years old. Related to other countries, Israel is a baby.
Israel is developing and eventually there wont be any "arab jews" and "euro jews".

Most Arab and Middle Eastern countries are 50 to 70 years old. Israel is not a "baby" in the region.

[Killur]

Most Arab and Middle Eastern countries are 50 to 70 years old. Israel is not a "baby" in the region.


And look how advanced Israel si compared to them.

Ebrami, I have no idea who you claim to be. As a person living in a southern "poverty" city (its considered this way), I see absolutely no difference between european jews and arab jews.
I won't even bother giving you examples of all the wealthy arab jews I know.

Please don't bullshit.

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

Israel doesn't fight for its biblical lands? where are yo uget this? AL menara? Hizbollah TV?

Israel fights for survival.

Think about it, if it wanted biblical lands, it wouldn't commit the disengagement plan and the sinai retreatment, just for peace.

Get you facts straight, and stop bullshiting.

If it's fighting for survival, then why is it establishing settlements in the West Bank instead of completely dismantling them?

[Warrior]

I have to agree with Arman. Sharon's action's have killed many and left alot of innocent Palestinians without home's. I too hope that he get's what he deserver's. He has pulled out of Gaza and kept control over the Sea ports, Air Space, etc. He has made Gaza from a small prison to a bigger one. On top of that he is against Palestinians taking East Jerusalem. So I am happy that he is about to be gone so that a new Israeli leader can step up and withdraw from the West bank and give 100% control to Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Eighter that or Israel can kiss Peace goodbye and continue dealing with war.

[Shahrukh]

And look how advanced Israel si compared to them.

Compared to who? There are Gulf states that make Israel look like the slums of Calcutta.

[mo*]

All Arabs, whether Egyptians, Palestinians, Lebanese or Jordanians, put ARIEL SHARON at the top of the list of Israeli leaders who treated them with both violence and contempt. To the Arab world at large, the image of the ailing Prime Minister is solidly fixed as the “Butcher” or the “War Criminal”, and the basic feeling now at the prospect of his death was that it would be a shame if he passed away peacefully in bed.

"I have always wished to live to see the day that SHARON was dying," a 60-year-old Lebanese woman identified as Um Ali Mikdad, who said she survived the 1982 Sabra and Shatila massacre, told Reuters. "But I wished he would be killed by a fighter's bullet, not die in his bed."

In the streets of Ramallah, a Palestinian man said: "I do not care about SHARON. Sick or not, he is a criminal, a war criminal, who massacred many people."

Another 44-year-old Egyptian businessman, interviewed in a street in Cairo, said that SHARON is “a war criminal, and he should be tried while he’s alive”. Sadd Eddin also said: “I don’t want him to die, I want him to live, paralyzed and suffering."

Palestinians' feelings of happiness that SHARON's era ended are mixed with their fears of the future. To them, the ailing butcher is the devil they know. "Now it is clear that Israel needs a leadership that proceeds strongly toward peace, or else the extremist right will hijack the situation," says Hanan Ashrawi, the Palestinian legislator and prominent negotiator.

Some Palestinians are so desperate. "The faces change, but they all have the same plan, to smash the Palestinian people," says Muhammad Ali, a businessman living in Ramallah.

An article on www.palestinechronicle.com shows why SHARON is hated in the Arab world. It says that his lack of appetite for peace made him responsible for the Qibya massacre in 1953, in which 69 Palestinians died. He is also accused of ordering the killing of Egyptian prisoner of war in Sinai in 1956. But the deadliest crime he is responsible for was against Palestinian refugees in the camps of Sabra and Shatila in 1982.


The ailing leader also bears responsibility for the continuous demolition of Palestinian homes in the occupied territories, and, of course, the daily killings of Palestinian civilians, including women and even children who pose no threat to the Israelis.

Another editorial on www.hejleh.com, describes SHARON as the "the master terrorist" who doesn’t value the lives of humans. It states that he used the Palestinian INTIFADA, or uprising, as an excuse to justify his horrible crimes in the occupied territories. Arab calls to end his war crimes fall on deaf ears. The world is silent to the atrocities committed against the Palestinians, who are forced to live in concentration camps into which the Israelis have cornered them. Every day, the Israelis discover new ways to humiliate, murder, maim and torture the Palestinian people simply because they live on their own land and because the Israelis want to take away what is left of Palestine. For 52 years, the Palestinians have been the victims of Israeli aggression, occupation and lies.

Palestinians homes are demolished, farmland destroyed, olive and fruit trees uprooted, water supplies shut off or poisoned, electricity cut off, businesses sabotaged, schools shelled, residential areas bombed, and civilians tortured and incarcerated. There is no justification whatsoever for such horrible crimes. And yet nobody stood up to the world and condemned the savage practices of "a bloodthirsty butcher" whose only goal is to exterminate the Palestinians.

The Palestinians don’t possess warplanes, gunboats, tanks or helicopters that they could use to attack their aggressors with. They are not given more than $5 billion dollars by the U.S. government like the Israelis, nor are they armed with the latest and most sophisticated of U.S. weapons. The only weapon most Palestinians have against their killers are stones.

The world began to realize that the major obstacle to peace is Israeli colonization and oppression of native Palestinians in violation of International law and over 60 UN Security Council resolutions. Now the international community knows that the U.S. support to Israel was critical in its evasion of International Law.


The world now began to recognize the U.S.’s double standards when it condemns the Palestinian resistance (which resists occupation) and defends the occupier. It is impossible to expect no reaction from people who have been abused, tortured and horribly mistreated. However, this is just exactly what Sharon wants. He wants to push the Palestinians into a corner, force them to fight back so he will have an excuse to kill more infants, more school children, more innocent civilians.

“We will carry out a war to the bitter end against the terrorists, those who help them and those who dispatch them,” SHARON was once quoted as saying. But he is the master terrorist. He should wage war against himself. The ailing prime minister is the worst enemy of Israel and he already has the blood of 20,000 Lebanese and Palestinians on his hands when he ordered the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982.

The Palestinians are surrounded by enemies who want to either drive them out of their land or to wipe them off the face of earth. The world should know the U.S. is biased when it hails Israel's “unilateral” moves, which involves separation walls, as peaceful solutions. As long as imperialists and ZIONISTS support the terror policies of Israel, there will never be peace. Palestinians have the right to have their land back, and they have the right to life, freedom and peace. It is time to take a stand and stop this ethnic cleansing. It is time the world hits terrorism at its core.

http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/review/article_full_story.asp?service_ID=10252

[4X-IL]

ROFLLL

This article just made me laugh so much
You need to be ashamed on yourself that you publish things from AL jazeera

[mo*]

ROFLLL

This article just made me laugh so much
You need to be ashamed on yourself that you publish things from AL jazeera

am definately not surprised that it made u ashamed... cause sharon killed unarmed and defenseless women and children and he considered himself taugh. i would have been ashamed too if i was israeli.

[4X-IL]

am definately not surprised that it made u ashamed... cause sharon killed unarmed and defenseless women and children and he considered himself taugh. i would have been ashamed too if i was israeli.


I would've been impressed if it was even 1\8 truth.
you know why I am not?
Because 99% from all Arabs storys are lies, thats why.
The only arabs i believe to them and who are actually friends of mine are the bus drivers and those who sell Shawarma and Falafel.
Only they can be trusted, the rest, are just 1 big fat lie, exacly as that story is.

[mo*]

I would've been impressed if it was even 1\8 truth.
you know why I am not?
Because 99% from all Arabs storys are lies, thats why.
The only arabs i believe to them and who are actually friends of mine are the bus drivers and those who sell Shawarma and Falafel.
Only they can be trusted, the rest, are just 1 big fat lie, exacly as that story is.

tell that **** to those who only monitor arab stories, the bottom line is sharon is nothing but a butcher and he massacared innocent people in lebanon in 1982 and only an illiterate would deny it. Sharon shall surely suffer before dying just like Ronald Regan did.

[4X-IL]

tell that **** to those who only monitor arab stories, the bottom line is sharon is nothing but a butcher and he massacared innocent people in lebanon in 1982 and only an illiterate would deny it. Sharon shall surely suffer before dying just like Ronald Regan did.


Sharon is a great man that without him I wouldn't sit here right now.
He entered Lebanon the CLEAR the terrorist from foundations, and he DONE IT!.
the terrorists fired hunders of missiles on israeli citys and killed dozens of innocent people, so he entered lebanon to KILL those terrorists and stop the fireing.
he done great, i wish there was more men like him

[mo*]

Sharon is a great man that without him I wouldn't sit here right now.
He entered Lebanon the CLEAR the terrorist from foundations, and he DONE IT!.
the terrorists fired hunders of missiles on israeli citys and killed dozens of innocent people, so he entered lebanon to KILL those terrorists and stop the fireing.
he done great, i wish there was more men like him

It's not a hard thing to be great but being great while doing the right is what matters... u call him great i agree, but what made him great is the result of the massacer of women and children, including pregnant women. trust me he's in his dead bed trying to repent but the words are not coming out...am sorry to say this but its too late for the butcher. what we fail to realize in this life is that we here just for a while... yesterday he was leading his troops to rape and massacer lebanese and palestineans today he's on his dead bed, tommorow he'll be history.

[4X-IL]

lol
ok
WHATEVER

[Killur]

Actually, Shraom wasn't the one who butchered in Sabra and Shatila. The christian arabs have done it, he just didn't stop them. And I ask...why don't you blame them?!!? not a single post here condemned the ACTUAL murderes.

Infact, I read in the newspaper that a Canadian Lebanese doctor said that "Sharon saved Lebanon" and offered his help!

[korosh_kabir]

Actually, Shraom wasn't the one who butchered in Sabra and Shatila. The christian arabs have done it, he just didn't stop them. And I ask...why don't you blame them?!!? not a single post here condemned the ACTUAL murderes.

Infact, I read in the newspaper that a Canadian Lebanese doctor said that "Sharon saved Lebanon" and offered his help!
yes that is trye it was the falang (a christian group= but sharon has done war crime when he was a officer, during the 6 days war and his act did that 100 or 1000 i dont remember eact because of the zeros , eguptian POW died.
and i think he is not aloud to come to europe because he must appear in the court. the gievenna
but he refused to that.

[4X-IL]

yes yes yes now he done something else.
give me a real case with links that describe the case and i'll give the true story about that too.

[Killur]

yes that is trye it was the falang (a christian group= but sharon has done war crime when he was a officer, during the 6 days war and his act did that 100 or 1000 i dont remember eact because of the zeros , eguptian POW died.
and i think he is not aloud to come to europe because he must appear in the court. the gievenna
but he refused to that.


As muc has I know, durign the 6 day war the only people Sharom kileld were enemy soldiers, same goes for 73'.
One time, sharom was responsible for the death of several dozens of palestinians. I condemn these actions, however he's beneficial actions are amazing, espiecally lately, you must agree.

[korosh_kabir]

As muc has I know, durign the 6 day war the only people Sharom kileld were enemy soldiers, same goes for 73'.
One time, sharom was responsible for the death of several dozens of palestinians. I condemn these actions, however he's beneficial actions are amazing, espiecally lately, you must agree.

actuellay when you ment that then i was force to take a look over reference and i saw that it was radio islam and you can not trust them in everything so i cant give my word about the egyptian things stuff. and these dozen palestianian you ment i think you mean shatilla and jenin?
i am sure that the israilis like him because if he was bad for them then they would not support him. i dont love palestianian but i think they are huemans to. and the land belongs to them to.

[4X-IL]

actuellay when you ment that then i was force to take a look over reference and i saw that it was radio islam and you can not trust them in everything so i cant give my word about the egyptian things stuff. and these dozen palestianian you ment i think you mean shatilla and jenin?
i am sure that the israilis like him because if he was bad for them then they would not support him. i dont love palestianian but i think they are huemans to. and the land belongs to them to.

What land exacly belongs to them?
Gaza? - YES, thats why they're there.
The West Bank? - YES, thats why they're there.
Israel? - NO, that why they AREN'T there.

[korosh_kabir]

What land exacly belongs to them?
Gaza? - YES, thats why they're there.
The West Bank? - YES, thats why they're there.
Israel? - NO, that why they AREN'T there.
have i said that israel belongs to them no i have not

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

What land exacly belongs to them?
Gaza? - YES, thats why they're there.
The West Bank? - YES, thats why they're there.
Israel? - NO, that why they AREN'T there.

But the Israelis have hundreds of settlements IN the West Bank and are building more.

[4X-IL]

But the Israelis have hundreds of settlements IN the West Bank and are building more.


And here you're all mistakes.
The " Israelis " that you talk about are religous extermist people that all the country hate.
no one like them beside they're community, thats all of them think that all the arabs should be killed \ be transformed to other place and that Gaza strip and the west bank need to be ours.
Evreyone, and i mean EVREYONE hate them, i don't have any connection to those people and they're enemies of that country, and the soul reasone we still fighting with the arabs.
if not them we would've been already in peace.
I'm not religoun, i don't believe in god, i don't care what the boundries of my country are, and i'm totally separated from those people.

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

And here you're all mistakes.
The " Israelis " that you talk about are religous extermist people that all the country hate.
no one like them beside they're community, thats all of them think that all the arabs should be killed \ be transformed to other place and that Gaza strip and the west bank need to be ours.
Evreyone, and i mean EVREYONE hate them, i don't have any connection to those people and they're enemies of that country, and the soul reasone we still fighting with the arabs.
if not them we would've been already in peace.
I'm not religoun, i don't believe in god, i don't care what the boundries of my country are, and i'm totally separated from those people.

I'm sorry if I offended you, I didn't mean to generalize. But surely someone must like them (or they have some power) them because the Israeli government seems to be supporting them.

Could there be some foreign lobby group that is pressuring the government to support the settlers?

[4X-IL]

of course there is
the religous ( not extremists ), they support them but not joining them, but what that matters is that more than 70% percents from the country does not support them so we have our lead.
the goverment doesn't support them, the pullout from Gaza is a great proof for that, when we evicted 10,000 of those people from Gaza strip and put them back in israel, the pullout was a decision of the goverment.
the West bank is other story, and much easier, cause there's much less settlers in there than they were in Gaza, and the West bank will be evicted in this time or another.

[korosh_kabir]

And here you're all mistakes.
The " Israelis " that you talk about are religous extermist people that all the country hate.
no one like them beside they're community, thats all of them think that all the arabs should be killed \ be transformed to other place and that Gaza strip and the west bank need to be ours.
Evreyone, and i mean EVREYONE hate them, i don't have any connection to those people and they're enemies of that country, and the soul reasone we still fighting with the arabs.
if not them we would've been already in peace.
I'm not religoun, i don't believe in god, i don't care what the boundries of my country are, and i'm totally separated from those people.
all people has their bad side and extremist and we have our extremist like ahmadinejad and his follower, these extremist do much damage to the whole region and their country.

[Ebrami]

man, what the hell are you talking about?
everybody in israel hates the settlers?

I live in Israel for 19.5 years now, believe me, i know israelis and zionists.

Israel has 7 millions citizens, 300,000 are settlers, first of all, thats a lot.
second of all, those people are in EVERY powerfull place in Israel, the army, the government, the parlament, every ******* where.
most of the israeli public knows to speak well about "getting out of the territories", but they define territories not like the whole world defines it.
fot the israeli public, east jerusalem is not occupied, and the big settelments are not even settelments ("Ariel and Maale-Adomim are not settelments, those are cities!" a well-known phrase in Israel) that needs to be evecuated.
and when you read in our newspapers that most of the israeli public is supporting an establishing of a palestinian country, do you think its true just like that?
a palestinian country would be agreed on the avarage zionist only if this country will have no army, no border-control (they want israel to control all the borders), no sea, land and air control, and the most important, the land that the zionists are willing to "give" to the palestinians as their country is a bunch of small seperated cantons, enclosed by those "not settelments but cities" as Ariel and others, that will continue to grow and send their long arms to prevent a real palestinian territorial sequence.

zionists in israel are willing to "give" Rammallah, Tul-Karem, Nablus and Gaza to the palestinians. the thing that they dont know, is that all of those places were always palestinians, so as the city of Ramle, Lud, Haifa, and other cities INSIDE the state of Israel. and no, by saying that even the territory of Israel is palestinans, that doesnt mean that all the jews should be killed in gaz chambers, and not even by shooting, it only means that before zionism was even thought about, Palestine was here, with people in it, jews too, and if zionist people would stop believing that because they came from the enlightend europe (enlightend my ass, european people created those stupid race-theories, killed millions of people for resources, and the worst of all, starting wars in the name of the holly democracy) they can drive out hundreds of thousands of people out of their homes, peace will come.

[Arman]

man, what the hell are you talking about?
everybody in israel hates the settlers?

I live in Israel for 19.5 years now, believe me, i know israelis and zionists.

Israel has 7 millions citizens, 300,000 are settlers, first of all, thats a lot.
second of all, those people are in EVERY powerfull place in Israel, the army, the government, the parlament, every ******* where.
most of the israeli public knows to speak well about "getting out of the territories", but they define territories not like the whole world defines it.
fot the israeli public, east jerusalem is not occupied, and the big settelments are not even settelments ("Ariel and Maale-Adomim are not settelments, those are cities!" a well-known phrase in Israel) that needs to be evecuated.
and when you read in our newspapers that most of the israeli public is supporting an establishing of a palestinian country, do you think its true just like that?
a palestinian country would be agreed on the avarage zionist only if this country will have no army, no border-control (they want israel to control all the borders), no sea, land and air control, and the most important, the land that the zionists are willing to "give" to the palestinians as their country is a bunch of small seperated cantons, enclosed by those "not settelments but cities" as Ariel and others, that will continue to grow and send their long arms to prevent a real palestinian territorial sequence.

zionists in israel are willing to "give" Rammallah, Tul-Karem, Nablus and Gaza to the palestinians. the thing that they dont know, is that all of those places were always palestinians, so as the city of Ramle, Lud, Haifa, and other cities INSIDE the state of Israel. and no, by saying that even the territory of Israel is palestinans, that doesnt mean that all the jews should be killed in gaz chambers, and not even by shooting, it only means that before zionism was even thought about, Palestine was here, with people in it, jews too, and if zionist people would stop believing that because they came from the enlightend europe (enlightend my ass, european people created those stupid race-theories, killed millions of people for resources, and the worst of all, starting wars in the name of the holly democracy) they can drive out hundreds of thousands of people out of their homes, peace will come.
Your people have two options to choose from:
A: You will all be dumped in the sea.
B: You will all go to Europe or some other country.

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

Who is going to dump them into sea if they don't all move to Europe or elsewhere?

[Ebrami]

when you say "your people" who do you mean? zionists ? those are not my people.
jews? well, what about the jews that lived here for many years? (not the imigrants that came from europe and arab countries) they need to go to europe too?

I was born here, in the state of Israel, on the land of Palestine, this is my homeland, and I dont know any europe or arab countries that can be my homeland too. though that I dont have family roots here, I am the roots, and I am already here, I am connected to this place just like a palestinian that was driven out on 48 is connected to this place, there are no differences between us, he was born here and i was born here.

I dont support Israel, I support a state that will give equal rights to all of is citizens. you can call it Israel, Palestine or whatever you want, it just needs to be a state that will do justice and wont descriminate people inside of it.

you have to understand, maybe the establishers of Israel have another homeland, but for me, and for the other jews that was born here, Israel is the homeland.
the problem is not that we are here, the problem is that zionists made terrible things in here, and I, and other people, are willing to correct the situation and live here together. the land is big enough for all of us, and the land doesnt belong to one nation or another, it belongs to god and to the people themselfes.

[knight]

when you say "your people" who do you mean? zionists ? those are not my people.
jews? well, what about the jews that lived here for many years? (not the imigrants that came from europe and arab countries) they need to go to europe too?

I was born here, in the state of Israel, on the land of Palestine

land of palestine my ass. do us all a favor and move to gaza + join your friend arman, the problem is he (arman) isnt smart enough to understand, yet, that you are on his side.

[Arman]

The jews that have lived there are all welcome to stay, and they are welcome in Iran. But the zionists simply have to leave or they will eventually be dealt with... and the rest will also be victim of this...

Whether you choose to see it or not... it is a fact that the muslims will never accept the zionists there... we are talking about the will of more than a billion people against these few million....

[4X-IL]

Ebrami, As one that also live in israel, and love this country, you have 1 shitty point of view on all of this,
and i'm sorry to tell you that not me, not my friends, and not anyone i know thinks like you, this land doesn't belong to God, you say it belongs to god? why wont god give me some documents that prooves that?
thise country belongs to the jewish people, the arabs are on they're sides, we're on our sides, there are some idiots that live on they'r side too, and they should be evicted, after that, i don't see any reasone why we need to keep fighting.

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

we are talking about the will of more than a billion people against these few million....

But these few million have the support of the most powerful military power on earth.

this land doesn't belong to God, you say it belongs to god? why wont god give me some documents that prooves that?
thise country belongs to the jewish people.

Why don't you give me some documents that prove it belongs to the jewish people?

[Arman]

But these few million have the support of the most powerful military power on earth.
No power can stand against the will of the Islamic nation. The Muslims will not give up until the end of times. But Europe's support for the zionist regime is getting less with the year. I expect that when all the people from the WW2 era are dead, there will be no more support for them.

The teenagers are way different from their parents, and have not experienced the things of the WW's, and simply do not care. (and they do not have the "guilt" feeling of the older people).

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

The Islamic...nation? LOL

Europe's support or lack thereof of Israel's "zionist" regime is inconsequential. As long as America provides Israel with economic and military aid, they'll prevail. The only way the crisis could resolve itself is if a new generation of Israelis come to power and evacuate all of the settlers, relinquish East Jerusalem (or whatever section of Jerusalem is being disputed more heavily), builds the wall INSIDE Israeli territory, rather than inside Palestine and renounce control over the Gaza coast and Palestinian air space.

[Arman]

The Islamic...nation? LOL

Europe's support or lack thereof of Israel's "zionist" regime is inconsequential. As long as America provides Israel with economic and military aid, they'll prevail. The only way the crisis could resolve itself is if a new generation of Israelis come to power and evacuate all of the settlers, relinquish East Jerusalem (or whatever section of Jerusalem is being disputed more heavily), builds the wall INSIDE Israeli territory, rather than inside Palestine and renounce control over the Gaza coast and Palestinian air space.
You have no idea how strong the Muslims believe in this....

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

No matter how strong a belief is it is never stronger than a weapon.

[4X-IL]

But these few million have the support of the most powerful military power on earth.



Why don't you give me some documents that prove it belongs to the jewish people?

Oh now you said a really stupid thing
all the grounds on the israeli ground were purchased from the Arabs and well knows as israeli territory. if you'll google it you'll find on your own
the West Bank, and Gaza strip, are the ground that we didn't bought, that why we're not living there.

[Arman]

No matter how strong a belief is it is never stronger than a weapon.
Yeah, we saw that when Iran fought with primitive weapons against a country supported by the whole world with every sophisticated weapon available.

[SackAssassin]

In contrast, the US was a ragtag outfit of farmers yet still defeated the only superpower of the time. Men with resolve, purpose, and strength are men to be feared.

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

Oh now you said a really stupid thing
all the grounds on the israeli ground were purchased from the Arabs and well knows as israeli territory. if you'll google it you'll find on your own
the West Bank, and Gaza strip, are the ground that we didn't bought, that why we're not living there.

A document that proves the deed belongs to somebody is only valid to those who recognize it. It is not a universal fact. People who say that god owns some land like to believe that this transcendental god-entity makes it universally supreme, yet, again, it's only valid to those who believe in this god.

[Mohmar 'Deathstrike']

Yeah, we saw that when Iran fought with primitive weapons against a country supported by the whole world with every sophisticated weapon available.

Iraq may have had more supporters, but more sophisticated weapons? I beg to differ. Iran had F-4s, F-14s, Chieftains, AH-1 Cobras. They were all pretty good in the early 80s.

In contrast, the US was a ragtag outfit of farmers yet still defeated the only superpower of the time. Men with resolve, purpose, and strength are men to be feared.

Okay. Maybe a strong belief in what you're doing helps in battle, but you need some of the other stuff too.