Iran's new torpedo missile

[Rafale]

What was the new torpedo missile Iran acquired from Russia that can go with speeds of Mach 1.1? I just heard this from my Math Professor that Russia supplied Iran with this torpedo and that the speed of this particular weapon can break the back of most ships i think.

[Behrooz Boonabi]

What was the new torpedo missile Iran acquired from Russia that can go with speeds of Mach 1.1? I just heard this from my Math Professor that Russia supplied Iran with this torpedo and that the speed of this particular weapon can break the back of most ships i think. Can you get a name?

[SS_Charlemagne]

Wasn't it the Shkval VA-111?

[jawwal]

Wasn't it the Shkval VA-111?

Yes, it is the shkval-111, but iran says it has developed its own fastest torpedo, called HOOT, with speed of 362 Km an hour, and a huge explosive head that could sink large Battleships.

[kaiser_tr]

mach 1.1??? are you kidding??there is no such technology on earth.


i wonder if this "mach" is different from the one in aviation

[Ardashir]

^^

;)

Quite Surprising, isn't it? I was like this when I first heard it!
Those Russians kick @ss!!!!

[leftwing]

maybe they measure the mach in the air, mid launch, before it hits the water, it cant go in mach 1.1 in water, Im guessing to much resistance

[jawwal]

maybe they measure the mach in the air, mid launch, before it hits the water, it cant go in mach 1.1 in water, Im guessing to much resistance

It is not 1.1 mach,,it is almost the same speed of the iranian torpedo around 225 miles an hour, which is extremely fast agaist ships.

[Ghauri]

maybe they measure the mach in the air, mid launch, before it hits the water, it cant go in mach 1.1 in water, Im guessing to much resistance
That's how it operates. It is launched off deck and gathers an air-bubble to move inside as it heads towards the target just beneath the water surface.

[Behrooz Boonabi]

That's how it operates. It is launched off deck and gathers an air-bubble to move inside as it heads towards the target just beneath the water surface. I think that is how the friction from the water is decreased. Ingenious.

[Janbaz]

Yes, it is the shkval-111, but iran says it has developed its own fastest torpedo, called HOOT, with speed of 362 Km an hour, and a huge explosive head that could sink large Battleships.


People forget things very quickly. I won't be surprise to see a note here from a year or two for some one to say, that Iranian HOOT or Shakval is a Mars landing that took place several years ago...

People before you post some thing, please read about it first and freshen up your memory.

Shaval or Iranian Hoot, is not a supersonic missile or Torpedo. There is no such thing ever made by any country that can travel at supersonic speed under water, or at least not yet.

Torpedo is under water, and missiles are above water.
We do have Missile that travels up to 3-5 times the speed of Sound.
There is no report of comformation that Iran has any Sunburn (or Airforce varient Moskit) missiles.

Moskit is the aircraft variant of the naval missile 3M80 (SS-N-22 Sunburn, the designation 3M80 apparently referring to the Mach 3 speed of 1980 weapons) used on "Sovremennyy" destroyers (eight missiles on each) and on "Tarantul [Tarantula] III patrol ships (four missiles on each). The 3M82 "Mosquito" missiles have the fastest flying speed among all antiship missiles in today's world. It reaches Mach 3 at a high altitude and its maximum low-altitude speed is M2.2, triple the speed of the American Harpoon. When slower missiles, like the French Exocet are used, the maximum theoretical response time for the defending ship is 150-120 seconds. This provides time to launch countermeasures and employ jamming before deploying "hard" defense tactics such as launching missiles and using quick-firing artillery. But the 3M82 "Mosquito" missiles are extremely fast and give the defending side a maximum theoretical response time of merely 25-30 seconds, rendering it extremely difficult employ jamming and countermeasures, let alone fire missiles and quick-firing artillery.

[Alex]

what is the name of the missile that can travel 3-5 times speed of sound?

[jawwal]

what is the name of the missile that can travel 3-5 times speed of sound?

As far as i know the Phoneix air to air missile travels that fast.

[jawwal]

People forget things very quickly. I won't be surprise to see a note here from a year or two for some one to say, that Iranian HOOT or Shakval is a Mars landing that took place several years ago...

People before you post some thing, please read about it first and freshen up your memory.

Shaval or Iranian Hoot, is not a supersonic missile or Torpedo. There is no such thing ever made by any country that can travel at supersonic speed under water, or at least not yet.

Torpedo is under water, and missiles are above water.
We do have Missile that travels up to 3-5 times the speed of Sound.
There is no report of comformation that Iran has any Sunburn (or Airforce varient Moskit) missiles.

The hoot is the iranian version of Shakval, here is one of the sites
http://www.murdoconline.net/archives/003606.html
Iran does have the Sunburn missiles
http://www.rense.com/general59/thesunburniransawesome.htm

[Xerxes]

hehehehe good one Night

some jokers here do not know that equation of Mach Number is both temperature-dependent as well as fluid-type dependent.

Mach = f[speed of the object/sqrt(density/R.temperature)]

the higher the density of the meduim the lower the Mach number and vice versa. water's density is 999 kg/m^3 compare to 1.2 for air

ofcourse the higher the temperature, the higher is the Mach Number as well. A plane flying at a speed "V" at low altitude (high temperature) has different mach number than a plane flying at the same speed "V" at much higher altittude (low temperature).

Samething goes for the Reynold number and other Fluid constants.

[MUSCOSTAR]

Amazing topic I hope this tool can provide better self deffense against any satanic threat of Sionist Entity or the U.S Air Force and Navy

[Xerxes]

Night, could please tell me why Mango and Power_serj were banned!!!

don't tell me they were both the same person :(

[Ardashir]

^^

Man if I knew that!!! This forum is boring now if you need to know...

[Xerxes]

MODS please unban mango, power serj and Darth vader. This is not funny at all. With who i am gonna discuss America's madness now???

Specially un-ban Darth_vader, because he owes me couple of replies. I know how much he likes to avoid replying to me, but this is too much. Power_serj is a fanatic but then again there many fanatic from the other side. and there is absolutly nothing wrong with Mango.

[Janbaz]

The hoot is the iranian version of Shakval, here is one of the sites
http://www.murdoconline.net/archives/003606.html
Iran does have the Sunburn missiles
http://www.rense.com/general59/thesunburniransawesome.htm

Sir, I know Iran has HOOT, but Sunburn not yet. What ever every one post and/or quote from someone does not prove that Iran has it for a simple reason:

Iran has not confirm that they posses Sunburn or Moskit Missile. Until the day they say they do, Iran does not have it.

[jawwal]

Sir, I know Iran has HOOT, but Sunburn not yet. What ever every one post and/or quote from someone does not prove that Iran has it for a simple reason:

Iran has not confirm that they posses Sunburn or Moskit Missile. Until the day they say they do, Iran does not have it.

It is been reported that iran recieved the Sunburn missiles through Ukraine through many strategic analysists and weapons control sites.

[Janbaz]

It is been reported that iran recieved the Sunburn missiles through Ukraine through many strategic analysists and weapons control sites.

As I said it, it does not matter who says what or which analyst says what. As long as Iran does not announce it that they do, then officialy Iran does not have it.

[SS_Charlemagne]

As I said it, it does not matter who says what or which analyst says what. As long as Iran does not announce it that they do, then officialy Iran does not have it.

Friend, you know there is an "official reality" and an unofficial reality ;) BTW, I think most of experts agree Iran has Sunburn, and perhaps Yakhont.

[Tbagger]

What was the new torpedo missile Iran acquired from Russia that can go with speeds of Mach 1.1? I just heard this from my Math Professor that Russia supplied Iran with this torpedo and that the speed of this particular weapon can break the back of most ships i think.
Though it is powerful, the weapon is still unguided and very limited because of its short range.

[jawwal]

Though it is powerful, the weapon is still unguided and very limited because of its short range.

How could it be unguided torpedo?

[Tbagger]

How could it be unguided torpedo?
Torpedos aren't always guided. Just look at the ones back in WWII.

[jawwal]

Torpedos aren't always guided. Just look at the ones back in WWII.

All reports coming from Iran states that they are guided and ani jamming too, why would iran bother developing torpedos with no guidance systems against a modern navy ships? would not make any sense at all.

[Tbagger]

All reports coming from Iran states that they are guided and ani jamming too, why would iran bother developing torpedos with no guidance systems against a modern navy ships? would not make any sense at all.
The Shkval has no guidance system to begin with.

[Tbagger]

Tbagger, can torpedo's jam in any way? I've never heard of this, and I don't think radio waves work that well under water..
They can be fooled with decoys.

I know the US toyed around with the idea of a radio-guided torpedo in the early 60's, but they scrapped the idea. Most torpedos today are wake homing, passive/active acoustic homing, or wire-guided.

[jawwal]

The Shkval has no guidance system to begin with.

The early version of shkval has no guidance system, but the latest one do have a homing device, with high speed when fired, then slows while searching.
Unguided torpedos could be very effective in close range combat.

[Lebanese]

All this is not important;
the important thing is that the Islamic Republic is controlling the Gulf, and is able to destroy enemy targets in and under the sea...

[Tbagger]

The early version of shkval has no guidance system, but the latest one do have a homing device, with high speed when fired, then slows while searching.
Unguided torpedos could be very effective in close range combat.
Even with a guidance system, the Shkval is still lacking in range.

The USN is equiped and trained to confront any problem out there.

[Sajjad]

The USN is equiped and trained to confront any problem out there.

Like Iraq ands Afganistan, brother?

[jawwal]

Even with a guidance system, the Shkval is still lacking in range.

The USN is equiped and trained to confront any problem out there.

U are absoultely right, the U.S have the best counter messures, but i would say if these torpedos are equiped to the small submarines now in service in iran, would be an effective ones, but no one really knows how effective are these small submarines, hope the confrontation does not come true to findout.

[Tbagger]

Like Iraq ands Afganistan, brother?
No, the USN is a navy built to tackle the Soviets.

[Janbaz]

Even with a guidance system, the Shkval is still lacking in range.

The USN is equiped and trained to confront any problem out there.

Absolutly. Shakval lacks the range to be effective. You have to get too close to the ship but then you will be seen by ships radar.
The Purpose of Iranian shakval "HOOT" is for prevention of ships coming to Iranian teretorial water for troops landing.

[TankHunter]

Yes, it is the shkval-111, but iran says it has developed its own fastest torpedo, called HOOT, with speed of 362 Km an hour, and a huge explosive head that could sink large Battleships.

It is likely an early version of the Shkval

[TankHunter]

That's how it operates. It is launched off deck and gathers an air-bubble to move inside as it heads towards the target just beneath the water surface.

It actually generates the super cavitation via the shape of the torp and gasses from the rocket are partially transferred to the front end.

[TankHunter]

How could it be unguided torpedo?

Because the rocket cannot be guided via Sonar because of the super cavitation, and the rocket would be difficult to turn in the bubble IIRC.

[TankHunter]

...a jamming torpedo??? I've never everheard of this.

The US uses a bastardized torp which is a decoy, but that is all it is. It cannot be used in anti shipping or anti sub warfare.

[jawwal]

It is likely an early version of the Shkval

Could be early version, even that is effective in close range battles, effective if equiped in small submarines, or protecting shorelines. No detailed information coming out of Iran about the capabilities of the Hoot. So might be either way, since Iran is basically reverse engineer them.