Iran's Navy Aviation

[Gonjeeshk]

Everyone can post here, their photo's of Iranian Navy aircraft.

SH-3D Sea King:

[Gonjeeshk]

Another SH-3D:

[iraniantiger]

tanx 4 ur pics one of them was new

[Gonjeeshk]

Ab 212asw

[Gonjeeshk]

More Sea Kings and RH-53D

[javid khan]

Iran should buy F22P frigates with Z9C anti-submarines chopper

[Falco]

Iran should buy F22P frigates with Z9C anti-submarines chopper
nah! they should buy some F124 frigates (including a Hangar for 2 Sea Lynx Mk.88 or 2 NH90 helicopters)

source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sachsen_class_frigate

[javid khan]

nah! they should buy some F124 frigates (including a Hangar for 2 Sea Lynx Mk.88 or 2 NH90 helicopters)

source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sachsen_class_frigate

sure if you have the money

[Kaveh]

nah! they should buy some F124 frigates (including a Hangar for 2 Sea Lynx Mk.88 or 2 NH90 helicopters)

source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sachsen_class_frigate

germany woudlnt sell this to us ....

:err2:

(my 500post yeah :p)

[khan]

More Sea Kings and RH-53D

are you sure from the second picture or its just a model, because iran dos not have RH-53D what is the source for this picture?

[Kaveh]

are you sure from the second picture or its just a model, because iran dos not have RH-53D what is the source for this picture?

oh ..... realy ? :huh2: and how you come to this statemant ? mr."khan" cool gigantic flying models :D

http://www.63rdvfs.com/INoob.html
http://www.scramble.nl/ir.htm

[khan]

oh ..... realy ? :huh2: and how you come to this statemant ? mr."khan" cool gigantic flying models :D

http://www.63rdvfs.com/INoob.html
http://www.scramble.nl/ir.htm

you are right .
i was'nt know that

[Kaveh]

you are right .
i was'nt know that

no problem friend :)

[javid khan]

i cant wait till pakistans receicves its first F22 frigates from china with Z9C anti-sub choppers!!!

[Gonjeeshk]

Iran seems to be the only export customer for the RH-53D. Like with the F-14. Anyone got anymore photo's of this amazing helicopter?

[Gonjeeshk]

More of RH-53D.

[azrael]

Iran seems to be the only export customer for the RH-53D. Like with the F-14. Anyone got anymore photo's of this amazing helicopter?

Iran is not an export customer of the rh-53, 6 were captured from the americans during a failed u.s. raid into iran and pressed into service.

[Gonjeeshk]

Iran is not an export customer of the rh-53, 6 were captured from the americans during a failed u.s. raid into iran and pressed into service.

Some were captured after the Americans failed to blow them up, but the main examples were bought before the revolution. There is a photo somewhere of one in New York City. It has "I I Navy" meaning Imperial Iranian Navy, written on it.

[KingoftheHill]

Here are some more pics, courtesy of KingoftheHill :biggrin1:

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s29/kingofthehill2/Seaking20-202501.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s29/kingofthehill2/Seaking20-201989.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s29/kingofthehill2/Seaking20-201988.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s29/kingofthehill2/IR20SEAKING.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s29/kingofthehill2/iranseaking.jpg

Cheers

[joey]

Iran should get new russian fast attack boats capable of hitting 40+ knots.
I dont exactly remember the name or the specifications.

[Kermanshah1]

http://www.irandefence.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=10285&stc=1&d=1200138375

[Gonjeeshk]

Very nice, Kermanshah. Iran has some of the nicest aircraft colour-schemes for any military.

[Gonjeeshk]

Maybe moderators can make this thread as "sticky"?

[Sajjad]

Thread stickied.

[bbk1386]

it would be sweet to see some su-39s (naval version) added to these photos

[Gonjeeshk]

Merci Sajjad.

[Trambuan]

Nice image of the PaveLow chopper!

[RH53D_AMCM]

TRAMBUAN: The H-53 model with the buzz number "701" on it is an RH-53D, not an MH-53J PAVE LOW III or IV. If you are referring to a photo I cannot pull up and thus cannot see, I apologize.

[RH53D_AMCM]

KERMANSHAH1: The RH-53D in the photo from yom you posted on 12 January 2008 was the first RH-32D produced, but 702 was the first offically delivered. The six RH-53Ds produced for the IIN (now IRINA) were the last H-53D models built before production switched over to the larger H-53E series.

"702" was delivered to IIN control on April 29, 1976. (BuNo 160100)

"701" was delivered to IIN control on May 27, 1976. (BuNo 160999)

"708" was not one of the six delivered under the original FMS sale; likely it was the sole survivor of the Operation EAGLE CLAW aircraft abandoned at Desert One" near Tabas.

Does anyone have more pictures of the original six?

[Gonjeeshk]

RH53D; you can also find some more photo's in the thread titled "Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force". Not many, but it has some.

[RH53D_AMCM]

GONJEESHK: Thank you for the advice. I have been going through all of the images I can find. You are correct. Only a few exist, but they are out there. I have been impressed by the Sea Stallion for years. It is interesting that as soon as helicopters were developed in the U.S., their application to the Airborne Mine Countermeasures mission was being explored.

The Warsaw Pact used a naval variant of the HIP, the Mil Mi-14 HAZE B for the AMCM task. Look carefully at Bandar Abbas NAS and there is a single HIP or HAZE on a ramp located away from the ASH-3H SEA KING helicopters.

[Gonjeeshk]

Do you mean the single helicopter next to 2 white hangars, just past the beach on the south side of the base? If so, it's too blurry on my google earth screen to see it clearly and tell what type it is. The Mi-14 looks impressive, but it doesn't seem to be a heavy-lifter, unlike the Sea Stallion. Does it use lighter minesweeping gear than the RH-53D?

If it's just 1 example there, it's probably not in service. Maybe just undergoing evaluation with an option to buy?

[RH53D_AMCM]

Some of the gear the RH-53D uses is normally kept aboard a surface ship. The helo would fly out from a home base, hover, hook up or pick up the AMCM gear, and then off they would go... It would be my guess that the Soviets watched RH-53D operations of North Vietnam post-ceasefire and the operations to clear the approaches to the Suez Canal.

Anything they liked, they copied... If it works, why not?

Perhaps the helo (if a HAZE B) was intended for only shallow-water AMCM operations?

[katyusha44]

It is is thefirst time i hear of RH-53 in iranian service but the pictures prove that their is. Rh-53 are awesome helicopters and the camo scheme on the iranian one is nice.

[Kermanshah1]

you can also find pictures of RH-53 and SH-3 on the Iran Defence Gallery.

Post 7,000!!!! Muhahahaha
Check this: http://www.irandefence.net/memberlist.php?&order=DESC&sort=posts&pp=30 ;)

[Kermanshah1]

This is the best Iranian Navy Aviation picture:
http://www.payvand.com/news/06/sep/Iran-march-to-war2.jpg

[Mr.Jo]

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14883



14885

Iran's Raad Anti-Ship Cruise Missile It's powered by an Iranian Turbojet Engine with a range of over 350km

Not to be confused with the Russian Termit SS-N-2(80km) or Chinese HY-2 Silkworm(80km-100km)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS-N-2

Visual difference: The Iranian version is longer and uses a turbojet engine instead of a Rocket Engine thats why the Iranian version has Air Intakes


14884


14886

Iran's Noor Anti-Ship Missile
It's Powered by a solid fuel Rocket Engine with a range of about 120km(Air, Sea and land versions)
Most Iranian Battle Ships carry this Missile
Iran has modified some of its Helicopters & Su-24 to carry the Air version of this Missile along side the Iranian Kowsar(25Km-70Km) and Fajr-Darya Anti-Ship Missile (5Km)

[Kosovo Knight]

Is it Iranian Navy aviation separate from Air force?

[Kermanshah1]

Is it Iranian Navy aviation separate from Air force?

Yes, but they only operate helicopters.

You got:

The Air Force
The Navy Aviation
The Army Aviation
The IRGC Air Force

The only one that operates fighters is the air force. Th Navy and Army aviation are limited to helicopters (combat and non-combat) and non-combat planes. IRGC-AF does operate combat aircraft, but no fighters, only attack aircraft.

[Kosovo Knight]

thankyou, can you please give me the information the dates when Iran has formed Army, Navy and IRGC aviations?

[Kermanshah1]

thankyou, can you please give me the information the dates when Iran has formed Army, Navy and IRGC aviations?

Army and Navy aviation branches were already there during the times of the Shah, IRGC-AF was created after the war, so somewhere in the 1990s.

[Kosovo Knight]

So, the Navy and Army aviation have beacome Islamic Republic of Iran Navy Aviation and Islamic Republic of Iran Army Aviation afther the 1979 revolution, and beafore that they were Imperial Iranian Navy Aviation and Imperial Iranian Army Aviation, right?

[Kermanshah1]

So, the Navy and Army aviation have beacome Islamic Republic of Iran Navy Aviation and Islamic Republic of Iran Army Aviation afther the 1979 revolution, and beafore that they were Imperial Iranian Navy Aviation and Imperial Iranian Army Aviation, right?

Correct. :laugh4:

[Kosovo Knight]

Jus one thing, Army and Navy aviation of IRI are useing the same roundel like IRIAF ore ...?

[Kermanshah1]

Jus one thing, Army and Navy aviation of IRI are useing the same roundel like IRIAF ore ...?

Yes, apparently they do, here's a picture of an Iranian Navy RH-53 and it's got the roundell on it...

http://www.irandefence.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=10285&stc=1&d=1200138375

[Kosovo Knight]

And on Army helicopters?

[Kermanshah1]

And on Army helicopters?

I don't know, but I assume they do, since IRGC planes and helicopters also carry it...

[Kosovo Knight]

Thanks! :D

[Gonjeeshk]

The main armed forces aircraft have the Iranian roundel and flag on them. IRGC aircraft don't always have the roundel; they usually have the national flag and the IRGC logo instead.

[Kermanshah1]

The main armed forces aircraft have the Iranian roundel and flag on them. IRGC aircraft don't always have the roundel; they usually have the national flag and the IRGC logo instead.

I've seen pictures of the roundel on IRGC Su-25s.

[Gonjeeshk]

This is the best Iranian Navy Aviation picture:
http://www.payvand.com/news/06/sep/Iran-march-to-war2.jpg

Maybe not the best one. Look at its size and quality. Still a good one. That has Sea Kings and is that Bell 212ASWs? They are too small for me to see clearly. What is the class of ship in there?

[Kermanshah1]

Maybe not the best one. Look at its size and quality. Still a good one. That has Sea Kings and is that Bell 212ASWs? They are too small for me to see clearly. What is the class of ship in there?

There is a large(r) version available, but I don't have it...:(

Anyway, look on my IDF Gallery, I have uploaded many Iranian Navy Aviation pictures, I'll post them here on this thread when I have time.

[SuperSixOne]

Is their an IRGC Naval Aviation branch too?

[Kermanshah1]

Is their an IRGC Naval Aviation branch too?

Not that I have heared of, and they don't operate any large(r) vessels either. Their largest vessels are the Houdong class (Thondor class) missile boats, they operate almost only speedboats and also some small missile boats.

http://www.tabnak.ir/files/fa/news/1386/10/19/3823_434.jpg
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/01_02/iranboatES_468x316.jpg
Houdong class:
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data/500/P313-7_Me_raj.jpg

The regular navy operates all the frigates (some of which can carry helicopters), corvettes and submarines, they've got a larger inventory of missile boats, ect.

The regular navy also operates ships like the one you see here, which carry helicopters:
http://www.payvand.com/news/06/sep/Iran-march-to-war2.jpg
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data/504/4_8506040580_L600.jpg
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data/504/2_8506040580_L600.jpg
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data/504/217913_orig.jpg

[SuperSixOne]

Any talks or plans to expand iranian naval aviation in the future?

[Kermanshah1]

Any talks or plans to expand iranian naval aviation in the future?

I don't know, but Iran is building bel-... (I don't know which number) helicopters and the Moudge class frigates Iran is building have helicopter pads.

[Kermanshah1]

This is really a buautifull picture of an Iranian seaking:

http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data/500/seaking2954lj7.jpg

[RH53D_AMCM]

GONJEESHK:

In case no one has replied to your question of March 20, 2008:

The large surface vessel is an LST of the HENGAM Class.

Warmest regards.

[Kermanshah1]

GONJEESHK:

In case no one has replied to your question of March 20, 2008:

The large surface vessel is an LST of the HENGAM Class.

Warmest regards.

Correct.

With the number 514, so that means it's the IRIS Lavan.

[Iranian Guards]

This is really a buautifull picture of an Iranian seaking:

http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data/500/seaking2954lj7.jpg

post pics of iranian attack helicopters

[RH53D_AMCM]

An attack helicopter like the AH-1J or Mi-24....

[Gonjeeshk]

GONJEESHK:

In case no one has replied to your question of March 20, 2008:

The large surface vessel is an LST of the HENGAM Class.

Warmest regards.

They didn't reply, so thanks for your answer. It might seem a bit thick of me, but naval fleets aren't really my main area of interest. Thanks and I'll look for some information on it, online.

[Gonjeeshk]

http://www.mehrnews.com/mehr_media/image/2008/04/356095_orig.jpg

A Sea Stallion during the Army day parade in 2008.

[Caucesco]

are you sure from the second picture or its just a model, because iran dos not have RH-53D what is the source for this picture?

yes they are real i read it in a thread that in the oporation in tabas two RH60 WERENT destroyed by the americans,i also heard they were under repair for almost 2years,lacking spare parts

[RH53D_AMCM]

CAUCESCO:

Actually, Iran bought 6 of the RH-53D in 1976. These were the last H-53D airframes fabricated.

The six RH-53D were delivered by an ARYA Shipping Lines freighter in two groups of three. A large amount of airborne mine countermeasures (AMCM) equipment and large quantities of spares were supplied under several contracts. Operation EAGLE CLAW made it possible for Iran to acquire two additional airframes, but I believe only one of the two "surviving helicopters" became operational with the buzz number "708".

All the best,

RH53D

[Caucesco]

CAUCESCO:

Actually, Iran bought 6 of the RH-53D in 1976. These were the last H-53D airframes fabricated.

The six RH-53D were delivered by an ARYA Shipping Lines freighter in two groups of three. A large amount of airborne mine countermeasures (AMCM) equipment and large quantities of spares were supplied under several contracts. Operation EAGLE CLAW made it possible for Iran to acquire two additional airframes, but I believe only one of the two "surviving helicopters" became operational with the buzz number "708".

All the best,

RH53D

thankd for the info

i heard it on tv it was the anniversery a few days ago,there was pictures off two they lookrd pretty good.(but never believe what they show).i am sure you are righr cause i dont have sources od what iam saying

[RH53D_AMCM]

CAUCESCO:

Check the back of Farzad and Bishop's book. Six were purchased under the Foreign Military Sales program. The seventh H-53 airframe came from another source...Let's just call it an "unapproved transaction". The "eighth" airframe (Buzz # 708) was left behind by the Operation EAGLE CLAW rescue mission.

[Kermanshah1]

http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data//500/medium/1_8501160456_L600.jpg

[Gonjeeshk]

Kermanshah; are those IRGC Navy helicopters? They don't have the usual blue & white naval colour-scheme. I remember from a few photo's and videos that there are some Iranian Mi-17s with the blue & white scheme (they must be IRI Navy examples), so these must be from something else.

[Kermanshah1]

Kermanshah; are those IRGC Navy helicopters? They don't have the usual blue & white naval colour-scheme. I remember from a few photo's and videos that there are some Iranian Mi-17s with the blue & white scheme (they must be IRI Navy examples), so these must be from something else.

They are IRGCAF helicopters, IRGCN doesn't have it's own aviation, but this picture is from an IRGCN wargame, IRGAF provides air support for IRGCN and IRGCGF.

[RH53D_AMCM]

KERMANSHAH:

Good assessment. There are a few naval-painted Mi-17 HIPs at coastal bases, visible on Google Earth. They are distinguishable from Sea Kings in rotor blade shapes, configuration of tail rotor assemblies, tailfin arrangement, engines, exhausts.

[Kermanshah1]

KERMANSHAH:

Good assessment. There are a few naval-painted Mi-17 HIPs at coastal bases, visible on Google Earth. They are distinguishable from Sea Kings in rotor blade shapes, configuration of tail rotor assemblies, tailfin arrangement, engines, exhausts.

Are both helicopters in the picture Mi-17? They look different to me...

[Gonjeeshk]

They are IRGCAF helicopters, IRGCN doesn't have it's own aviation, but this picture is from an IRGCN wargame, IRGAF provides air support for IRGCN and IRGCGF.

I didn't know that. Are there any clearer photo's of IRGC helicopters on naval missions?

[RH53D_AMCM]

Why are any of the helos operated by the Navy marked as if they are owned and operated by same?

In the case of the RH-53D, the AMCM gear is owned and maintained by the Navy, but the Navy may or may not have access to the aircraft needed to tow it througn the water? Or is this actually an admission that the minesweeping gear is non-functional?

[Gonjeeshk]

I don't know, RH53D. I have an old airacraft magazine from 1999 that says the Navy's air arm is actually staffed by Air Force personnel. Maybe that helps clarify things?

[RH53D_AMCM]

GONJEESHK:

At one time before things "went south", the IIAF was looking to acquire at least four (4) HH-53B or HH-53C SAR birds. These would have been Super Jolly Green Giants and provided Iran with a long-range SAR retrieval capability. It is likely that the IIAF personnel trained to fly the HH-53B/C variants would have been a good basis for RH-53D aircrews.

[Kermanshah1]

What helicopters are all in this picture?
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data/500/048ee2ae.JPG
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=7756&cat=500

[Iranian Guards]

seaking?......

[JanIran]

What helicopters are all in this picture?
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data/500/048ee2ae.JPG
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=7756&cat=500

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SH-3_Sea_King maybe?

[Kermanshah1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SH-3_Sea_King maybe?

That blue one is either SH-3 or RH-53D. The narrow dark green ones are AH-1Js, the brown ones are Mi-17s.

BTW, has anyone got a picture of an Iranian Mi-25? I've never seen one before.

[Iranian Guards]

That blue one is either SH-3 or RH-53D. The narrow dark green ones are AH-1Js, the brown ones are Mi-17s.

BTW, has anyone got a picture of an Iranian Mi-25? I've never seen one before.
i saw many of them in a clip called ''brave iranian armed forces'' on youtube

[Kermanshah1]

i saw many of them in a clip called ''brave iranian armed forces'' on youtube

Are you sure it was Mi-25? Or was it Mi-17?

[Iranian Guards]

Are you sure it was Mi-25? Or was it Mi-17?

lol i know what a MI-25 looks like

[Kermanshah1]

lol i know what a MI-25 looks like

Can you give a link to the video?

[Iranian Guards]

Can you give a link to the video?

i dont know the link it was agees agoo, but i have a map


Mi-24, Mi-25, and Mi-35 operators

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/World_operators_of_the_Mi-24.png

[Kermanshah1]

i dont know the link it was agees agoo, but i have a map


Mi-24, Mi-25, and Mi-35 operators

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/World_operators_of_the_Mi-24.png

I know, Iran has several Mi-25s which were flown over from Iraq, but I have never seen one so far.

[JanIran]

I don't know. Maybe this...

http://www.acig.org/artman/uploads/iraac_mi-25_hind_over_the_front.jpg

[Kermanshah1]

I watched the video, I didn't see a single Mi-25.

I don't know. Maybe this...

http://www.acig.org/artman/uploads/iraac_mi-25_hind_over_the_front.jpg

This is Iraqi...

[Iranian Guards]

I know, Iran has several Mi-25s which were flown over from Iraq, but I have never seen one so far.

can you find them here? http://youtube.com/watch?v=T_LW_BDuYx4

[JanIran]

I don't know. Maybe this...

http://www.acig.org/artman/uploads/iraac_mi-25_hind_over_the_front.jpg

no I don't think it's Iranian... :sorry3:

[Kermanshah1]

can you find them here? http://youtube.com/watch?v=T_LW_BDuYx4

Those are Mi-17.

BTW, what did surprise me is that that beat is from a song of a Dutch rap group (morrocans), they are underground rappers, so pretty much uknown, how the hell did these guys get that beat? how do they know about it?

[Caucesco]

What helicopters are all in this picture?
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data/500/048ee2ae.JPG
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=7756&cat=500

THE BLUE ONE IS THE ONE OF THE TWO SEA STALLIONS THEY HAVE ,THEY WERE CAPTCHERED OF THE AMERICANS IN THE EAGLE CLAW(I THINK) IN TABAS

WELL THEY SAY ONE OF THEM DOES NOT WORK AND ONLY ONE IS OPORATIONAL

I DONT think iran has any mi-24 cayse i have never seen them in praids or anybody else,if they had any they would show them,they are proberly out of order

[Iranian Guards]

Those are Mi-17.

BTW, what did surprise me is that that beat is from a song of a Dutch rap group (morrocans), they are underground rappers, so pretty much uknown, how the hell did these guys get that beat? how do they know about it?

look this http://youtube.com/watch?v=EY0IAVNb1IA

[Caucesco]

oh sorry the blue one IS a seaking,my problem
it is not a stallion

[Kermanshah1]

look this http://youtube.com/watch?v=EY0IAVNb1IA

Second 48, that was a Mi-25, only it is Iran-Iraq War footage, that is (or actually was) an Iraqi operated Mi-25.

THE BLUE ONE IS THE ONE OF THE TWO SEA STALLIONS THEY HAVE ,THEY WERE CAPTCHERED OF THE AMERICANS IN THE EAGLE CLAW(I THINK) IN TABAS

WELL THEY SAY ONE OF THEM DOES NOT WORK AND ONLY ONE IS OPORATIONAL

I thought Iran also bought some before the revolution.

I DONT think iran has any mi-24 cayse i have never seen them in praids or anybody else,if they had any they would show them,they are proberly out of order

Several were flown over during Operation Desert Storm.

[Gonjeeshk]

Yes Kermanshah, Iran bought 5 Sea Stallions before the revolution. But in your photo, you can that see the blue helicopter is a Sea King. It has a much larger tail than a Sea Stallion and has sponsons for the landing gear that stick out on struts, separate from the fuselage. Stallions don't have that.

There also seems to be 2 Sea Cobras and some Mi-8/17s as well.

I have an old, British magazine that says the Islamic Republic of Iran Army Aviation has 10 Mi-24 Hinds that came over from Iraq.

[Kermanshah1]

Yes Kermanshah, Iran bought 5 Sea Stallions before the revolution. But in your photo, you can that see the blue helicopter is a Sea King. It has a much larger tail than a Sea Stallion and has sponsons for the landing gear that stick out on struts, separate from the fuselage. Stallions don't have that.

I thought so...

There also seems to be 2 Sea Cobras and some Mi-8/17s as well.

Yep.

I have an old, British magazine that says the Islamic Republic of Iran Army Aviation has 10 Mi-24 Hinds that came over from Iraq.

Actually Mi-25, but it's kind of the same helicopter.;)

[Gonjeeshk]

Kermanshah; is Mi-25 an export variant? My magazine clearly says they have 10 Mi-24, not Mi-25.

[Kermanshah1]

Kermanshah; is Mi-25 an export variant? My magazine clearly says they have 10 Mi-24, not Mi-25.

Mi-25 and Mi-35 are export variants of Mi-24, the Soviets exported Mi-25s to Iraq.

[Caucesco]

Yes Kermanshah, Iran bought 5 Sea Stallions before the revolution. But in your photo, you can that see the blue helicopter is a Sea King. It has a much larger tail than a Sea Stallion and has sponsons for the landing gear that stick out on struts, separate from the fuselage. Stallions don't have that.

There also seems to be 2 Sea Cobras and some Mi-8/17s as well.

I have an old, British magazine that says the Islamic Republic of Iran Army Aviation has 10 Mi-24 Hinds that came over from Iraq.

if they had bought more stalions why do they only show this one

iand the mi24 or what so ever there has not been any report of them flying in iranian prades or manuevors,so where are they if they have 10,maybe they were old and they have junked them

[Kermanshah1]

if they had bought more stalions why do they only show this one

You want them to fly all of them in one picture?

and the mi24 or what so ever there has not been any report of them flying in iranian prades or manuevors,so where are they if they have 10,maybe they were old and they have junked them

They serve with IRGCAF

[spymaster]

can you find them here? http://youtube.com/watch?v=T_LW_BDuYx4


No. Hips, AH-1, Chinooks and Hueys but no Hinds

[Gonjeeshk]

if they had bought more stalions why do they only show this one
As I said, that's a Sea King; not a Sea Stallion. Kermanshah made a good point that it's not likely that Iran would put all examples of one aircraft type in an excercise, at the same time. They need to keep the Americans guessing where things are and how many of them are operational at any one time.

iand the mi24 or what so ever there has not been any report of them flying in iranian prades or manuevors,so where are they if they have 10,maybe they were old and they have junked them

You mean they have been scrapped? Maybe, but not all the aircraft they got from Iraq in 1991 still fly. So, the most likely answer is that the Iranian army does not fly them, or they keep them just for testing and experimenting.

[RH53D_AMCM]

CAUCESCO:

The Sea Stallion is the larger aircraft, not the Sea King. The Sea Stallion (H-53) is the Sikorsky S-65, while the Sea King is the H-3, or Sikoraky S-61.

The RH-53Ds were produced in the US at the Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation plant in Stratford, Connecticut. Six (6) aircraft were purchased along with a large supply of spare engines, parts, tools, and airborne mine countermeasures (AMCM) equipment.


The Agusta Sikorsky ASH-3D Sea King helicopters were produced in Italy under lincense from Sikorsky. However, the majority of the spares, parts, tools, and maintenance support was provided by Sikorsky until the 3 February 1979 Memorandum of Understanding that essentially ended US support at the request of the Government of Iran.

Seizure of the US Embassy later that year precluded the MOU from being renegotiated.

Oh well...

[Kermanshah1]

To bring the thread back to life again, here's another picture to talk about:
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data/500/iranNavy.jpg
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=6513&ppuser=8195

If it isn't to small to see, what kind of helo's are these?

BTW, has anyone got it in larger?

Here's another nice one, pitty it's so small:(:
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data/500/73_Sabalan_and_421_Bandar_Abbas.jpg
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=7067&ppuser=8195

The ships here are the 73 IRIS Sabalan (Alvand class) and 421 IRIS Bandar Abbas (Bandar Abbas class) with some sea kings.

Here we've got another good picture, thought the navy aviation isn't really the important part of it, the ship there is the P224 IRIS Paykan (Sina class):
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data/500/Iranian-Navy-Persian-Gulf2.jpg
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=7019&ppuser=8195
But what for helicopter is it? Bell 2..

Here we nicely see an IRGCAF Mi-17 flying with some Regular Navy Auxillary ships:
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data//500/medium/16_8501150475_L600.jpg
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=6998&ppuser=8195

And what do we have here, the top helo is a Mi-17, but what is the bottom one? RH-35?
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data//500/medium/1_8501160456_L600.jpg
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=6981&ppuser=8195

IRGCAF UAV flying in Navy wargame:
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data//500/medium/2_8501150475_L600.jpg
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=6982&ppuser=8195

This I personally think is a really good Iranain Navy picture, I like it and it also shows 2 AH-1J SeaCobras and 2 RH-53D Sea Stallions (correct me if I'm wrong):
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data/500/187317_orig.jpg
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=6619&ppuser=8195
Note: The ship in the front is the 212 IRIS Bahram (Parvin class patroll boat)

And here I've got another one for you my friends, the Navy's P227 IRIS Samshir (Kaman class) and an IRGCAF or IRIAF Mi-17:
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data//500/medium/P227_Samshir_and_helicopter.jpg
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=6191&ppuser=8195

Here you've got the classic picture of the 802 IRIS Hamzeh with a Bell ... helicopter:
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data/500/802_Hamzeh.jpg
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=4813&ppuser=8195

Finally we have for you, the pride of the Iranian Navy the P225 IRIS Joshan (Sina class), Iran's most advanced missile boat and it was domestically build :) together with a Bell ... helicopter:
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data/500/P225_Joshan.jpg
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=5025&ppuser=8195

As you might realise, I can' tell the difference between these Bell helicopters (Bell 206, Bell 212, Bell 214) so if one of you can (which you most sertainly can) than can you please say it.

Also See the links under those pictures? They are to the IDF gallery feel free to (please do) click on those links and go to the page of the pictures and rate them or post a comment on the page.:)

[RH53D_AMCM]

KERMANSHAH1:

I have looked at the images and can only see Agusta Bell 212ASW (modified to non-ASW role), Bell 214A Isfahan, Mil Mi-8/-17 HIP, Bell AH-1J (and probable AH-1J/TOW), and ASH-3D SEA KINGs. It appears that the RH-53Ds stayed back at Bushehr Naval Air Station or perhaps the Bandar Abbas NAS when the images were taken.

All the best,

RH53D_AMCM



Nice shot of the UAV. That's a low-risk solution to the need for a reconnaissance drone for maritime operations.

[Gonjeeshk]

Just found this in the Cobra thread of the air force forum of IDF.

An IRINA SH-3D Sea King with a Maverick missile. Wonder what would be the reason for using this anti-tank missile on a fleet helicopter?

[Gonjeeshk]

To bring the thread back to life again, here's another picture to talk about:
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data/500/iranNavy.jpg
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=6513&ppuser=8195

If it isn't to small to see, what kind of helo's are these?

BTW, has anyone got it in larger?

Here's another nice one, pitty it's so small:(:
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data/500/73_Sabalan_and_421_Bandar_Abbas.jpg
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=7067&ppuser=8195

The ships here are the 73 IRIS Sabalan (Alvand class) and 421 IRIS Bandar Abbas (Bandar Abbas class) with some sea kings.

Here we've got another good picture, thought the navy aviation isn't really the important part of it, the ship there is the P224 IRIS Paykan (Sina class):
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data/500/Iranian-Navy-Persian-Gulf2.jpg
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=7019&ppuser=8195
But what for helicopter is it? Bell 2..

These are great photo's. The first one looks like Sea Cobras & maybe Bell 212ASWs?. The second looks like a mix of Sea Kings and judging by the tail and roof shape, Sea Stallions. What kind of ship is the 421 IRIS Bandar Abbas (Bandar Abbas class) that is with them?

The third photo is quite interesting. Is that white boat one of those IRGC boats the mighty American navy claimed to be so threatened by, recently? Looks like the Bell 212ASW is supporting the boats.

Anyone else notice what is in the bottom left corner? What is that, a diver? A combat swimmer in a canoe?

[Goudarz S]

I'm not sure why there is a guy in a kayak. One can only guess that he is a suicide kayaker and will ran a vessle and self detonate. He is also known as the world's slowest self guided torpedo.

[RH53D_AMCM]

Sure hope he is not an Iranian...But remember if he is Pasdaran, this should surprise no one. The Pasdaran did a real number on the AH-1J helos during the war. They were the best IRAQI AA gunners around. That must have been embarrassing...

[RH53D_AMCM]

GONJEESHK:

I humbly disagree about the Sea Stallion, but that is what makes a horse race, right?

If the helo in question was flying straight and level -- Then we could tell. That is what makes recognition of aircraft so difficult under combat conditions. We have all the time in the world to hash this out, but a guy sitting behind the controls of an AA gun or manportable SAM has only a split-second.

All the best,

RH53D

[oldboy]

no I don't think it's Iranian... :sorry3:

I concur, It's Iraqi. Seen the picture before with a subtitle describing it as Iraqi.

Good Luck Everyone

Oldboy

“Who was that?”
“Strangely enough Baldrick, that was his Holiness Pope Gregory IX, inviting me to join him for drinks aboard his steam yacht, the Saucy Sue, currently wintering in Montego Bay, with the England cricket team, and the Balinese Goddess of Plenty.”
“Really?”
“No, not really. I've been ordered to HQ - no doubt means that idiot General Melchett is about to offer me an attractive new opportunity to have my brains blown out for Britain.”

[RH53D_AMCM]

GONJEESHK:

The ASH-3D is indeed carrying a MAVERICK. If you look carefully on the top of the nose section it says "SCENE MAG" for Scene Magnification. This indicates that the weapon is an AGM-65B.

If the missile is fitted with steering fins, it is a warshot. If not, this is an ATM-65B and could be used as a "poor-man's" approach to backfitting an electrooptical system in the ASH-3D.

Thanks for posting the image.

All the best.

[Kermanshah1]

These are great photo's. The first one looks like Sea Cobras & maybe Bell 212ASWs?. The second looks like a mix of Sea Kings and judging by the tail and roof shape, Sea Stallions. What kind of ship is the 421 IRIS Bandar Abbas (Bandar Abbas class) that is with them?

The third photo is quite interesting. Is that white boat one of those IRGC boats the mighty American navy claimed to be so threatened by, recently? Looks like the Bell 212ASW is supporting the boats.

Anyone else notice what is in the bottom left corner? What is that, a diver? A combat swimmer in a canoe?

Bandar Abbas class:

Displacement: 4,673 tons full load
Dimensions: 108 x 16.6 x 4.5 meters (354 x 54.5 x 14.5 ft)
Propulsion: 2 diesels, 2 shafts, 12,000 bhp (8900 kW), 20 knots (37 km/h)
Armament: 2 dual 23 mm AA, 2 20 mm AA

They are German built Light Replenishment Ships, Iran has 2 of them, the IRIS Bandar Abbbas (nr.421) and the IRIS Booshehr (nr.422), the first one was delivered in 1973 the second in 1974.

They are also both fitted with a helicopter deck.

[Gonjeeshk]

GONJEESHK:

The ASH-3D is indeed carrying a MAVERICK. If you look carefully on the top of the nose section it says "SCENE MAG" for Scene Magnification. This indicates that the weapon is an AGM-65B.

If the missile is fitted with steering fins, it is a warshot. If not, this is an ATM-65B and could be used as a "poor-man's" approach to backfitting an electrooptical system in the ASH-3D.

Thanks for posting the image.

All the best.

Thanks. If that's an AGM-65B, does that mean that Iranian Sea Kings have a usefull land attack capability or is it just an improvised alternative for an air-launched anti-ship missile?

[Gonjeeshk]

Thanks, Kermanshah. The Bandar Abbas-class are transport/supply ships? The flight deck would be useful in resupplying other naval ships at sea. Do these ships have a troop-transport ability as well? The flight deck could be useful for providing support helicopters to an amphibious operation.

[RH53D_AMCM]

GONJEESHK:

The SEA KING carrying a MAVERICK would be a good anti-missile boat or patrol boat killer. Land attack capability? Technically feasible but damn risky unless there is some air support. The SEA KING was not really made for that mission.

[Gonjeeshk]

So it's been an improvised, anti-ship missile? As far as I have read, Iran has some air-launched anti-ship missiles, already. What would be the reason or advantage in adapting the Maverick for this role?

[RH53D_AMCM]

GONJEESHK:

1. Availability of MAVERICK missiles in Iran and their likely accessiblity on the weapons black market.

2. Similarity of Russian-made tactical air-to-surface missiles (TASM) to MAVERICK, such as AS-10 KAREN and AS-12 KEGLER, would make them like follow-on weapons.

IMHO

[Kermanshah1]

For some more great Navy Aviation Pictures:

http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data/500/10_8501170180_L600.jpghttp://www.irandefence.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8380
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data/500/13_8501170180_L600.jpg
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8384&ppuser=8195
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data/500/j.jpg
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8409&ppuser=8195
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/data/500/11_8501140259_L600.jpg
http://www.irandefence.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=8382&ppuser=8195

[RH53D_AMCM]

KERMANSHAH1:

Great images!

The naval camouflage scheme on the Mi-17 near the tugboat stern almost makes me wonder if they were practicing helicopter in-flight refueling (HIFR). This should not be a big technical problem and is probably already in service with the SEA KINGs, AB.212s, and RH-53Ds.

[Sajjad]

New photos of IRIN P-3F Orion

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/9741/p3f30122007hj9.jpg

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/6452/p3f1uc6.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/930/p3fbu4.jpg

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/9789/p3fqg7.jpg

[RH53D_AMCM]

SAJJAD:

Nice shots of the P-3F ORIONs.

[Gonjeeshk]

SAJJAD:

Nice shots of the P-3F ORIONs.

Yes, even if it they are an IRIAF aircraft! Still, might as well have Orion photo's here, as they are actually a type of naval aircraft; just a land-based one.

Anyway, what's the pod for on the right wing? Is that a steerable searchlight like on British Nimrods?

[RH53D_AMCM]

GONJEESHK:

The pod is indeed a steerable searchlight. The designator is the AVQ-2C. There are alternative commercially-available searchlight systems that could be used in place of the AVQ-2C.