NATO: Pakistani Intelligence aiding Taliban, Al-Qaeda

[shasnahn]

the Durand Line agreement never expired, even if it did, the land belongs to those who live there, not Afghans.

[Shapur85]

Originally Posted by shasnahn

the Durand Line agreement never expired, even if it did, the land belongs to those who live there, not Afghans.

Durand Line agreement never expired???? What Line are you talking about we all know this. Even The Pro-Pakistani Governor of NWFP last year said Pakistan should do something about the line since it has expired. That was in the news.

the land belongs to those who live there, not Afghans.

Thanking you i 100% agree therefore free pashtunistan. But the problem is we already tryed that Even Afghans king took our case to UN so that there should be a new state, but the kuffars always support their kuffar brother, that would be Pakistan. Pakistan was created by the west and would always be supported by the west.

not Afghans

The local native of that line are Pakhtuns. And Pakhtun=Afghan, so it belongs to Afghan people, and before it was part of Afghanistan. Even now Afghans count Pashtunistan as part of their province, and the people on both does not even know if there is any line. My friend its all Afghanistan. I even saw a map showing our area as part of Afghanistan. And there have many meeting in Pashtunistan and a holy war against punjabis. The problem is ANP which used to be supported by ISI are getting their hand, and trying to solve this problem politically, if no good luck, then we are at holy war.

[Shiraz]

Hell we'll see whose land this is... If that means a war with Khakistan being the Afghan ruines, we'll finish the job... This ain't no lousy threat but the hardcore reality.

[not-now]

hmm......so you wanna create more violence and divide another country into smaller weaker states did you learn nothing from partition ?

[Shiraz]

Originally Posted by not-now

hmm......so you wanna create more violence and divide another country into smaller weaker states did you learn nothing from partition ?

No. Not divide but just conquer this time. That's what the plan should be. Get over and done with it.

[not-now]

i meant to shapur85 wanting to create a new country look at all the violence that happened when pak seperated- fata,waziristan and all those other areas other frontier all part of pak ayway so it's better to stay united.Dividing will make both of you smaller and weaker and one more border conflict probably .Also i highly doubt pukhtoonistan will be able to survive anyway.

[Shapur85]

Originally Posted by not-now

i meant to shapur85 wanting to create a new country look at all the violence that happened when pak seperated- fata,waziristan and all those other areas other frontier all part of pak ayway so it's better to stay united.Dividing will make both of you smaller and weaker and one more border conflict probably .Also i highly doubt pukhtoonistan will be able to survive anyway.

I agree you have some point And we know that, eyes are upon us and that's we're still with Pakistan or atleast we respact our Apradie brothers. But still no-matter how much i say. its still won't be enough and we are sick and tried of it. If Pakistan wants us remian in peace, Then they should pull out their Army and respact our area. And also let us make our laws and they should respand our laws.

[shasnahn]

Pakhtuns = Pakhtuns.

Afghans comprise mixture of many etnicities. I come from the NWFP, it belong to...me. Not to Afghans or their damned king. Pakistan and its borders have to be respected by the Afghans or they will remain miserable like the last 60 years.

The Durand Line never expired, even if it did, it now forms the border of the Pakistani state. It is not going to change to make Afghans happy.

Backwass kawal band ka.

[Shapur85]

Originally Posted by shasnahn

Pakhtuns = Pakhtuns.

Afghans comprise mixture of many etnicities. I come from the NWFP, it belong to...me. Not to Afghans or their damned king. Pakistan and its borders have to be respected by the Afghans or they will remain miserable like the last 60 years.

The Durand Line never expired, even if it did, it now forms the border of the Pakistani state. It is not going to change to make Afghans happy.

Backwass kawal band ka.

Backwass kawal band ka

Your telling me to shutup and yet my people dying everyday. May Allah guid you, you are niave. Allah subanhanallha said "break those who break you, and make you suffer and thy may live among you." Yes we do have people like you in the north who are disgrace to our identity. But don't worry Allah knows the best if he want NWFP to be part of Paskitan forever then there is no-one to change that we only believe in allah and what allah has chosen wfor us and remember the second part. Even if you live among us we would break you with god's well and that depand on time. Allah knows the best.

Afghans comprise mixture of many etnicities. I come from the NWFP, it belong to...me. Not to Afghans or their damned king.

I don't care what Afghans have to offer, and who they are... their kings could of done more but no... its up to a Allah . Who are Afghans to decide what we want. They don't even their own nation under control all they do is fight among themselves sometimes they bring their tribal war into our areas do their killings in our village Afghanistan is hell hate of satan is everywhere.

Pakhtuns = Pakhtuns.

Thank you 100% correct and we have been pushing for this since Wali Kafar khan. Pukhtunkhwa zendabad

[Shiraz]

Originally Posted by shasnahn

Pakhtuns = Pakhtuns.

Afghans comprise mixture of many etnicities. I come from the NWFP, it belong to...me. Not to Afghans or their damned king. Pakistan and its borders have to be respected by the Afghans or they will remain miserable like the last 60 years.

The Durand Line never expired, even if it did, it now forms the border of the Pakistani state. It is not going to change to make Afghans happy.

Backwass kawal band ka.

Don’t worry bro. Don't even waste a breath over these disloyal people. The Christmas season is over for the Afghans. There’s huge dissatisfaction about the presence of criminal Afghans and their treacheries. Every Pakistani has had it with them. Remember that fencing + mining + border surveillance by means of UAVs + repatriation of all Afghan refugees = security for Pakistan. NATO and US forces should take care of their beloved Afghan friends. They can also go to India that they love so much.

I’m a Pukhtoon myself. I’ve got nothing against Afghans and I've never had any problems with Pakistan providing shelter to the backstabbing Afghan refugees until now. Not so long ago I actually even endorsed help for our so-called Afghan brothers and sisters. The problem is that these people eat and crap at the same place. The words loyalty or gratitude doesn’t exist in their dictionaries. These visitors even dare to claim our beloved land. Time to take action. I’m glad that Musharraf realizes the immense threat. Even if it takes a war, I say we just get over and done with the job. Let them bark, we'll do whatever is in our best interest at the end of the day.

[Shapur85]

Originally Posted by Shiraz

Don’t worry bro. Don't even waste a breath over these disloyal people. The Christmas season is over for the Afghans. There’s huge dissatisfaction about the presence of criminal Afghans and their treacheries. Every Pakistani has had it with them. Remember that fencing + mining + border surveillance by means of UAVs + repatriation of all Afghan refugees = security for Pakistan. NATO and US forces should take care of their beloved Afghan friends. They can also go to India that they love so much.

I’m a Pukhtoon myself. I’ve got nothing against Afghans and I've never had any problems with Pakistan providing shelter to the backstabbing Afghan refugees until now. Not so long ago I actually even endorsed help for our so-called Afghan brothers and sisters. The problem is that these people eat and crap at the same place. The words loyalty or gratitude doesn’t exist in their dictionaries. These visitors even dare to claim our beloved land. Time to take action. I’m glad that Musharraf realizes the immense threat. Even if it takes a war, I say we just get over and done with the job. Let them bark, we'll do whatever is in our best interest at the end of the day.

I’m a Pukhtoon myself. I’ve got nothing against Afghans and I've never had any problems with Pakistan providing shelter to the backstabbing Afghan refugees until now. Not so long ago I actually even endorsed help for our so-called Afghan brothers and sisters. The problem is that these people eat and crap at the same place. The words loyalty or gratitude doesn’t exist in their dictionaries. These visitors even dare to claim our beloved land. Time to take action. I’m glad that Musharraf realizes the immense threat. Even if it takes a war, I say we just get over and done with the job. Let them bark, we'll do whatever is in our best interest at the end of the day

Oh i see thanks so much for your Pakhtuwalli being. You think i am stupid. You guys hide under our name, until when??? How long is it gonna go for there there even better pashtu speaker then you who even follow our laws guess what being Punjabi is in their blood. They always represent us, in front of United Nation the world and even when pakistan was forming they called people like you, who were not even pakhtun, don't tell me sht. I know all of you. You guys do that in schools and in the mosque, and we asked them they say ohh we forgot pashtu or ohh our great great great great grandfather was from Kabul or from afghanistan. You guys think we all came from kabul or some god knows where and count yourselves as one of them. Go look at yourself at mirror what kind of pakhtun would be proud of being pakistani. They did nothing for us, nothing at all, all they did was use our land and bring their punjabis in our area. What did we do nothing and thank Islam for that we thought you guys as our brothers and sisters. and all you guys call us is thefs, criminal.

To end this i would say your not worth of being a dog of Pakhtun. So stop the non-sense, you the most pro-pakistani in the planet.

[Shiraz]

Originally Posted by Shapur85

Oh i see thanks so much for your Pakhtuwalli being. You think i am stupid. You guys hide under our name, until when??? How long is it gonna go for there there even better pashtu speaker then you who even follow our laws guess what being Punjabi is in their blood. They always represent us, in front of United Nation the world and even when pakistan was forming they called people like you, who were not even pakhtun, don't tell me sht. I know all of you. You guys do that in schools and in the mosque, and we asked them they say ohh we forgot pashtu or ohh our great great great great grandfather was from Kabul or from afghanistan. You guys think we all came from kabul or some god knows where and count yourselves as one of them. Go look at yourself at mirror what kind of pakhtun would be proud of being pakistani. They did nothing for us, nothing at all, all they did was use our land and bring their punjabis in our area. What did we do nothing and thank Islam for that we thought you guys as our brothers and sisters. and all you guys call us is thefs, criminal.

To end this i would say your not worth of being a dog of Pakhtun. So stop the non-sense, you the most pro-pakistani in the planet.

Hide under your names? I piss on the name Pukhtoon and anything related to it. First and foremost, I’m a Muslim and then a Pakistani. To hell with Pukhtoonism that has brought so much misery to our land. My national lingo is Urdu. Pashto is of no importance to me. Thankfully, I can’t speak Pashto because I wasn't taught. Instead, I speak my beloved national lingo, that’s spoken widely all over Pakistan. I’m glad for that. You and your people can go to hell as far as I’m concerned. At the UN Pakistan only represents Pakistani’s, so get your facts right. Like as if we want to be associated with a bunch of terrorists and beggars. Kabul can also rot in hell, which it already is by the way. The fact is that your broken Khakistan is a begging country in need of shelter. Piss off and leave for Iran or India where you’re supposedly adored if you grudge Pakistan so much. Heck, even the Iranians are wary of backstabbing Afghans and don’t want your kind on their side.

You calling me a dog? Just shut the hell up and keep your sentimental crap to yourself you friggin’ backstabber. Your wife’s and daughters are being screwed by the Americans back in your homeland. Your country is being occupied, torn apart and the people massacred like unworthy dogs. Agony and pain is your fate so get used to it cursed people. You'll never find peace. Your lives are worthless, not even worth a dime. I know many like yourself that watch Bollywood movies, praise anything anti-Pakistan whilst living and seeking refuge in Pakistan. Eat and s h i t at the same place. The time is approaching fast when millions of your ugly asses will be kicked out of our beloved land. You just wait and see, bloody criminals and thugs. Yes, I’m Pakistani, all praise be to Allah (swt).

[not-now]

hey guys calm down ! this is getting a bit too heated i think this thread needs to be closed.This is makes me think even more fencing the border was a good idea so much hatred for each other afghans should just stay on their side and pakistanis on theirs like karza said pak and afghanistan are twins joined at the hip but i think it's high time they're seperated-the fence will be the operation.
I wish the best to both afghanistan and pakistan and althought shapur i disagree with your views(since punjab and sindh are the breadbaskets of pak i think pukhtoonistan needs them to survive) i do hope one day your country will finally be left in peace and see prosperity.
peace out

[Shiraz]

Originally Posted by not-now

hey guys calm down ! this is getting a bit too heated i think this thread needs to be closed.This is makes me think even more fencing the border was a good idea so much hatred for each other afghans should just stay on their side and pakistanis on theirs.

The hater asked for it. He thinks he can get away with Pakistan bashing. Not one iota as long as I'm here on IDF.

[Shapur85]

Originally Posted by Shiraz

Hide under your names? I piss on the name Pukhtoon and anything related to it. First and foremost, I’m a Muslim and then a Pakistani. To hell with Pukhtoonism that has brought so much misery to our land. My national lingo is Urdu. Pashto is of no importance to me. Thankfully, I can’t speak Pashto because I wasn't taught. Instead, I speak my beloved national lingo, that’s spoken widely all over Pakistan. I’m glad for that. You and your people can go to hell as far as I’m concerned. At the UN Pakistan only represents Pakistani’s, so get your facts right. Like as if we want to be associated with a bunch of terrorists and beggars. Kabul can also rot in hell, which it already is by the way. The fact is that your broken Khakistan is a begging country in need of shelter. Piss off and leave for Iran or India where you’re supposedly adored if you grudge Pakistan so much. Heck, even the Iranians are wary of backstabbing Afghans and don’t want your kind on their side.

You calling me a dog? Just shut the hell up and keep your sentimental crap to yourself you friggin’ backstabber. Your wife’s and daughters are being screwed by the Americans back in your homeland. Your country is being occupied, torn apart and the people massacred like unworthy dogs. Agony and pain is your fate so get used to it cursed people. You'll never find peace. Your lives are worthless, not even worth a dime. I know many like yourself that watch Bollywood movies, praise anything anti-Pakistan whilst living and seeking refuge in Pakistan. Eat and s h i t at the same place. The time is approaching fast when millions of your ugly asses will be kicked out of our beloved land. You just wait and see, bloody criminals and thugs. Yes, I’m Pakistani, all praise be to Allah (swt).

LOL you think talking like this would get you away from facts. don't worry we have alot of you in our beloved Pashtunistan once we unite watch how we're going tick you back to where you india or piaki land.

Your country is being occupied, torn apart and the people massacred like unworthy dogs. Agony and pain is your fate so get used to it cursed people. You'll never find peace. Your lives are worthless, not even worth a dime.

thanks because punjabis like you who hid under name living in Pashtunistan.

Your wife’s and daughters are being screwed by the Americans back in your homeland

Sorry we already we're not part of Pakistan where millions of american $$$ is paid to them for their daughters and to sell their people. Yeah over 4 bn for the war on terror rright...ask musharif wher is his wife in white house.

Thankfully, I can’t speak Pashto because I wasn't taught. Instead, I speak my beloved national lingo, that’s spoken widely all over Pakistan. I’m glad for that.

don't worry you are far from being a Pashtun, maybe some mahjur from india. We have punjabis who speak full pashtu, don't worry we would take care of it.

Kabul can also rot in hell, which it already is by the way. The fact is that your broken Khakistan is a begging country in need of shelter. Piss off and leave for Iran or India where you’re supposedly adored if you grudge Pakistan so much.

Hell with Kabul, India and Pakistan we're talking about Pashtunistan not your sh@tland.

My national lingo is Urdu.

What's urdu the language that was made by people from Kabul, right

UN Pakistan only represents Pakistani’s, so get your facts right

That's good its even easier for us to argue for a Pashtunistan state.

Heck, even the Iranians are wary of backstabbing Afghans and don’t want your kind on their side.

Why are you talking about Afghans, they also backstbbed us during 1960s and they give up to easy during the meeting of UN, just because their economy went down doesn't mean stop supporting us, over 70,000 of us we killed by dirty Ayoub khans invasion only becuase we run out of weapons.